Handgun Radio 176 - The Sig Sauer P320 Saga & Other Handgun Recalls

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Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

 

This week we discuss the recent Sig P320 Saga and other handgun recalls!

 

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Week in Review:  

Shooting a Ruger MKIV Tomorrow

Eddie Eagle Gun Safety: https://youtu.be/Ho36vonT3Rw

 

Robert:

I took 4 boys to the range Sunday. Shot up all my ammo.

Brett:

Bought a jogging stroller to turn into a 3 gun cart.

Drink Segment:  Fernet Michaud: http://liquidriot.com/packaged/fernet-michaud/

 

Main Topic: The Sig Sauer P320 Saga & Other Handgun Recalls

 

Sig Sauer safety alerts and recalls

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/08/11/was-the-p320-hammer-test-scientific/

 

Sig Sauer P320 Pistol

 

Remington

R51 – too easy not to talk about this one

https://www.remington.com/news/2014/remington-arms-announces-voluntary-product-recall

 

S&W Shield

https://secure05.lwcdirect.com/front/frontQuestionnaire.jsp?linkparam=y&uID=0&p=mpshieldsafetyalert.com&loginType=skipWelcome&clientID=742&campaignID=63

Ruger MK IV

https://ruger.com/dataProcess/markIVRecall/index.php

 

Glock

https://us.glock.com/customer-service/recoil-spring-exchange

 

Interesting link of recalls and warning at FirearmsID.com

http://firearmsid.com/recalls/Firearm%20Recall%20Index.htm

 

Additonal recall links ( I did not research each case just the link )

Whitney Wolverine

http://rockislandauction.blogspot.com/2014/05/rise-and-fall-of-whitney-wolverine.html

Taurus

Taurus safety alerts and recalls

Curve

PT Series Pistols

https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2015/07/28/massive-taurus-safety-settlement-include-100000-pistols/

 

Walther CCP

Walther safety alerts and recalls

Walther CCP Pistol

Walther PK380

Walther PPK and PPK/S pistols

http://www.waltherarms.com/ccp-recall-notice/#

 

Caracal

https://caracalusa.com/press/cat/recall

 

Vector South Africa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vektor_CP1

 

Ruger

 

LCP

http://www.ruger.com/LCPRecall/

SR9

http://www.ruger.com/SR9Recall/index.html

 

S&W

22a

https://www.smith-wesson.com/safety/recalls/model-22a-pistols-safety-recall

329

https://www.smith-wesson.com/safety/recalls/performance-center-model-329-safety-recall

460

https://www.smith-wesson.com/safety/recalls/performance-center-model-460-safety-recall

 

Beretta

http://www.berettasupport.com/

 

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/09/16/recall-notice-beretta-neos-pistols/

 

IWI recall

Galil ACE pistols

Springfield Armory

XDS

http://www.springfieldrecall.com/recall%20faq.asp



 

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Handgun Radio 175 - Listener Handguns, Slingshots & More!

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, Weerd & I discuss listener dream guns, slingshots, folding Glocks & more!

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Week in Review:

Ryan: FRN Transfer

Weerd:
 

Drink Segment:  http://grandten.com/spirit-type/the-vesper/

GrandTen Distillery Vesper

Main Topic:

Listener Dream Guns:

Chris:

I thoroughly enjoyed listening to Episode 174. I thought I would share my ideal handgun design with you guys, I'm interested to hear your thoughts on it...

Start with a CZ75 Compact. Now change the frame to polymer, but the exact same profile as the current metal frame...no pic rail up front and exact same beavertail on the back. Now slim it up and make it a single stack magazine, capacity of about 7+1 or 8+1 with the always wonderful CZ DA/SA trigger. Frame mounted Decocker only option, no safety.  Add some mild checkering/stippling of the grip area, not like sandpaper but not silky smooth either. Metal sights top it off with a bright fluorescent green daylight dot with tritium insert on the front sight, and an all blacked out rear sight with a good ledge on the front of the rear sight for one hand slide manipulation. Chamber it in your choice of 9mm, .40 s&w, or .357 Sig. Since it's my ideal gun, I'd have one each in all three chamberings…

Listener Nathan:

Size: The first one has to be full size....then you make smaller versions.

Magazine: The magazine should be as close to the Springfield XD mags as possible.

Material: Steel slide.....950" max width. Slide cut thinner at front for easy holster entry. Slide flat topped and grooved; polymer frame with steel frame insert that holds ignition system. No finger grooves. Shape like CZ75 with palm swells, but just a bit smaller circumference and thinner. Sharp fine checkering on front and back strap....relatively smooth sides like Ruger SR9.

Caliber: 9mm ....it just makes sense, even though I prefer 40 & 45.

Trigger Style: Large radius curve and sliding like a typical 1911.

-Trigger System: SA striker fired with striker block lifted by trigger take up. Rotating sear like 1911, m&p or XD.

-Sights: RR-Ledge shape, serrated, about 0.145" wide FR-0.125" wide tritium/white outline dot, front to rear dovetail like cz75

-FR Serrations, DLC type coating, grip safety & single side thumb safety like 1911, take down lever like XD , loaded chamber indicator and cocked indicator you can feel like XD.

-Barrel: Ramped with 1911 or CZ75 lockup, removable slide bushing like CZ. Cut flush with bushing. Threaded type available

Listener Doug:

I'm going to buck the trend here:

My ideal handgun is a 6 shot .357 magnum revolver.

Stainless steel frame, about the size of a Colt Detective Special.

2.5" barrel, but ideally it would have interchangeable barrels like the old Dan Wessons.

Double action only, with pull about 9 lbs.

Shrouded hammer.

Total weight would be a bit over 20 ounces.

Sights:

Fiber-optic front, available in various heights.

Drift adjustable Novak-style rear sight, plain black, no dots.

Stocks: boot-style grips.

Cylinder release: Ruger style.

Listener Jeff:

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/653021123?utm_source=CDNN%20Sports%20Email%20Specials%20List&utm_campaign=adb01b666f-CDNN%20Gunbroker%20Auctions%20Ending%20Sunday%206%2F18&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_7a83adbc4c-adb01b666f-18386037
 

Slingshots:

Basic Slingshot vs Wrist Brace Slingshot

Ammo….Rocks, ¼ Ball Bearings, ⅜ Inch Ball Bearings

Flat Bands vs Tubes

https://youtu.be/tLSQ5wjYBSo

 

Folding Glock?:

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/07/28/full-conceals-folding-glock-akin-magpuls-fmg9/
 

LifeCard Pistol:

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/08/04/trailblazer-firearms-announces-folding-lifecard-pistol/
 

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Handgun Radio 174 - Let's Design Our Ideal Handgun!

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, Weerd and I TRY (and I do mean try) to design what would be our ideal handgun!

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Week in Review:

Ryan: - Went to the range today with the Mad Aussie! Got some awesome beef jerky from the smokehouse he works at! Shot the Remington 870 Police Magnum, Remington 11-87, the MP5SD 9mm.

-Smith's Log Smokehouse in rural Maine - Buy Smoked Jerky, Sausage ...

  • Handled the Beretta APX and Silencerco Maxim 9.

Weerd: Busy Weekend in Maine,  attended my Best Friend’s wedding.   No opportunities to go shooting but since I was wearing a tux, I carried my Beretta 21A which Ryan calls my “Tux-Gun”
 

Drink Segment: Local Gin!    It just so happens that in the last week I’ve had two AMAZING gins from here in New England.    The first is GrandTen Wireworks Gin,   which is actually a barrel-aged gin, meaning it’s probably closer to the more ancient Jenever which is a dutch spirit made with junipers that the English used as the inspiration to London Dry Gin.

GrandTen Distilling is in Boston

The second is called Back River Gin, made by Sweetgrass Winery.    This is a more traditional Dry Gin,  but it’s a lot more mellow than say Tanqueray or Beefeater.     I could go on for hours on the tasting notes of this one,  Let’s just say it’s the best gin I’ve ever had,  and it’s REALLY reasonably priced.   Both will run around $30 for a 750ml,  which for small-batch craft gin is quite impressive

http://grandten.com/spirit-type/wire-works/

https://sweetgrasswinery.com/spirits/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenever

Main Topic: Let’s Design Our Ideal Handgun!

Size: Full Size? Compact? Subcompact?

Magazine:

Material: Polymer? Metal?

Caliber: Choice

Trigger Style: Flat? Curved? Pivoting? Straight back a la 1911)

-Trigger System: SA? DA? DAO? Striker Fired? Hammer Fired? A combination of both?

-Sights? Ledge for manipulations or no?

-Other options not listed?

Send your ideas to handgunradio@gmail.com and we will read them on the show!!

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HGR 173 - The 2nd Is For Everyone Diversity Shoot with Tony Simon

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, we talk with Tony Simon about the 2nd is for Everyone Diversity Shoot & Simon Says Train!

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Week in Review:

Ryan: -Went shooting today, shot the S&W .32-20 WCF, M1 Carbine, S&W 34 .22 LR, Steyr, Lee Enfield .303, and my S&W M&P15 Sport II

Tony:

Weerd:  My life has been CRAZY busy, and no spare time for shooting, but found a reason to carry a revolver.   While cooking I stabbed myself in the palm.   My hand is OK, but until this cut heals up better I can’t grip things very hard with my left.    With no slide to manipulate, and I do my reloads with my right hand,   so there’s that.

Main Topic: The 2nd Is For Everyone Diversity Shoot with Tony Simon

We are joined by Tony Simon, the man behind the 2nd is for Everyone Diversity shoot and Simon Says Train. How are you doing Tony?

What is your background?

What is 2nd is for everyone Diversity Shoot?

What prompted you to start it?

Charity Status?

T-Shirt

Where can people find more info?
 

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  • Where can people find you Tony?
     

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Handgun Radio 172 - A Brief History of Custom Handguns & Competition with Daniel Watters

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world. 

This week, we talk about custom handguns and competition from 1950 to 2000 with Daniel Watters!

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Gonna skip the week in review as i didn’t do anything related to firearms and we have a really awesome main topic ahead of us!

Drink Segment: This was an old experiment I’m revisiting.   It can be considered the love child between a Gimlet and a Singapore sling.
0.5oz Cherry Brandy
1oz Lime Juice
2oz Gin
A few dashes of Angostura Bitters
Shake and serve up or on the rocks.

I may have to come up with a name for this.

Main Topic: A Brief History of Custom Handguns & Competition with Daniel Watters


Classic Bullseye

    .22 Rimfire
    Centerfire (no caliber floor until the Askins incident in 1937, then raised to .32)
.    .45 ACP  (both semi-autos and revolvers allowed)
    Service Pistol (minimal external modifications allowed)  

    https://hdl.handle.net/2027/coo.31924089863397?urlappend=%3Bseq=186

    First documented service interest in National Match pistols arises in 1920.  However, this is limited primarily to reducing the minimum trigger pull regulations and adding slightly larger sights (⅛” sights versus issue 1/10”.)

    “Fitz from Colt” (J. Henry Fitzgerald) quickly sets up shop at large matches, fitting factory select “match” barrels and larger sights, as well as performing trigger jobs for competitors.

    https://hdl.handle.net/2027/coo.31924089863397?urlappend=%3Bseq=266

    http://sportsmansvintagepress.com/read-free/shooting-table-contents/

    Colt National Match pistols commercially introduced. (1932)

    http://www.coltautos.com/1911a1gmnm.htm

https://www.amazon.com/American-Beauty-Pre-War-National-Government/dp/0889352607

The rise of the civilian pistolsmiths (Pre-WW2)

    Archibald Brinkerhoff

    Archibald R. Brinkerhoff was the Jim Boland/Ned Christensen of the pre-WW2 pistolsmiths. Unfortunately, he died in 1946 before Bullseye shooting enjoyed its post-war resurgence.

Brinkerhoff patented a torsion hammer spring arrangement as well as a sear depressor system. Between the two developments, Brinkerhoff could rework the frame to be more user-friendly to shooters with smaller fingers, and safely achieve sub-3 pound trigger pulls without the hammer following.

US Patent #1,711,874 - Spring Actions for Firearm Hammers
http://www.google.com/patents/US1711874

US Patent #1,807,727 - Safety Lock for Firearms
http://www.google.com/patents/US1807727

The drawing of the reworked frame in the first patent is grossly exaggerated, but I hate to think what it would cost for a modern gunsmith to duplicate the frame modifications of the pistol in the article. Still, the concept is rather neat as you could rework the mainspring housing any way you wanted since its purpose is reduced to holding the grip safety and sear spring in place.

Brinkerhoff submitted one of his modified M1911 pistols to the US Army's Chief of Ordnance back in 1933. However, Ordnance was only interested in Brinkerhoff's recoil buffer system. The design inserted a spring-loaded plunger into a GI-length guide rod. The plunger would impact the interior of the recoil spring plug when the slide cycled. Oddly, Brinkerhoff never patented the design, and it was widely copied after his death. Another fellow even patented it in the late 1940s!

There is another Brinkerhoff pictured in the book "US Military Match and Marksmanship Automatic Pistols." From the photos, you can see that Brinkerhoff fabricated a custom magazine slam-pad to match the recontoured frame and stocks. In addition, there is a photo of a custom Brinkerhoff trigger that is fitted with a spring-loaded plunger to reduce the vertical movement of the trigger within the frame. The modern equivalent would be the Castillo's Custom Actions trigger.)

    King Gun Sight (Dean W. King)

http://www.histandard.info/King/KingCatalogs/cat19/Kingcat19D0-FCP200R_1280_960.html

http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/218/825/60991/

    Frank Pachmayr

    https://www.amazon.com/Frank-Pachmayr-Americas-Master-Gunsmith/dp/1571570179

    A.E. Berdon

http://www.nramuseum.org/guns/the-galleries/innovation,-oddities-and-competition/case-25-camp-perry/colt-model-1911-semi-automatic-pistol.aspx

http://www.nramuseum.org/guns/the-galleries/innovation,-oddities-and-competition/case-25-camp-perry/colt-model-1911-semi-automatic-pistol-(2).aspx

https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?p=5537995

    While the patent drawing shows this adapted to a rifle, Berdon performed the same modification to his M1911 pistols.

    Trigger pull compensation for firearms
    https://www.google.com/patents/US2046996

    J.D. Buchanan

    http://www.bullseyeforum.net/t5243-j-d-buchanan-accurized-bullseye-gun

    Jesse Harpe


This post on LTW has a copy of a 1942 vintage article by the early M1911 pistolsmith Jesse Harpe. Note his early self-branded parts, fabricating his own thick-flange barrel bushing, matching spring plug, and barrel links.  Also note the number of modifications that are already standard: trigger overtravel stops, reducing trigger play in the frame, tightening slide to frame fit, and fitting the lower barrel lug tight to the slide stop pin. 

    http://forum.ltwguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=8314


The return of the National Matches (Post-WW2)

    New crop of civilian pistolsmiths begin to replace those who did not continue after WW2

    http://www.1911pro.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2930

    http://www.gunsmagazine.com/1955issues/G0655.pdf#page=33

    John Giles 

    https://www.1911addicts.com/threads/john-giles-genius-gunsmith-old-school.29307/

    Jim Clark, Sr.  

    Here is a 1960-vintage profile of gunsmith and Bullseye champion Jim Clark, Sr. by Grits Gresham.
http://www.gunsmagazine.com/1960issues/G0860.pdf#page=16

    Alton Dinan

    http://pistolsmith.com/vintage-pistols/7454-alton-s-dinan.html
http://pistolsmith.com/austin-behlert/17562-al-dinan-i.html

    Austin Behlert

    http://www.randgfirearms.com/5141.html
 
Bob Chow

    http://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/athletes/ch/bob-chow-1.html
http://chssc.org/History/Honorees/Honorees2009d.aspx
https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=453167
https://youtu.be/QRhFyIwqRLk
    https://youtu.be/EeAukp4hwuA

    Richard Shockey

    http://tonybrong.blogspot.com/2012/08/richard-l-shockey.html
    http://www.1911forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=376635
https://youtu.be/ABctItBKbtA
    
Recoil reducer and accuracy improver
    https://www.google.com/patents/US2627686

    Apparatus for improving the accuracy of a firearm
    https://www.google.com/patents/US3365829

    George Elliason

The birth of the .38 Special Wadcutter conversions for the M1911 (~1950)

Renewed military interest results in official service-built National Match pistols.  This results in a major increase in technical expertise and the production of match grade parts. (1954-1968)

http://coolgunsite.com/images/1911/drake%20nm/national_match_notes.htm

https://www.amazon.com/Military-Match-Marksmanship-Automatic-Pistols/dp/1931464189

First integrally ramped M1911 barrel  (Clark -1955)
 
Factory responses - Colt Gold Cup National Match (1957) 

Factory responses to .38 Wadcutter conversions - Colt Gold Cup National Match Mid-Range (1960) & S&W Model 52 (1961)

    Automatic pistol firing mechanism
    https://www.google.com/patents/US2959107

    Single or double action firearm
    https://www.google.com/patents/US3152418
    Firearm with a pivotable barrel having a spherical hump engaging a slide member
    https://www.google.com/patents/US3158064

Shockey identifies the headspacing issue with the .38 Super (1961)

    In the June 1961 issue of The American Rifleman, John F. Rollins and Richard L. Shockey identified the head spacing issue in their article "Accurizing the Colt Super .38." Shockey ended up sleeving the factory chamber and recutting it to headspace on the chamber mouth.

Longslide conversions (Clark -1962)

New adjustable sight options for the M1911

    Micro Gun Sight
    S&W K-frame rear
    Elliason designs (HEG/Triangle, Colt/Elliason, Kensight, BoMar)

First aftermarket full-length guide rod for the M1911 (Max Atchisson - ~1962)
    http://www.google.com/patents/US3122061

Pachmayr Signature Model conversion (Frank Pachmayr, George Hoening, and Edward Miller)

    http://americanhandgunner.com/1977issues/AHJF77.pdf#page=21

    Here are all of the patents for the Pachmayr Signature Model conversion.

Pistol barrel mounting structure
https://www.google.com/patents/US3207037

Gun barrel locating structure
https://www.google.com/patents/US3411404

Gun head space takeup elements
https://www.google.com/patents/US3411405

Gun barrel bushing structures
https://www.google.com/patents/US3411406

Gun slide guiding devices
https://www.google.com/patents/US3411407

Mounting structure for pistol barrels
https://www.google.com/patents/US3411408

Gun having movably mounted barrel
https://www.google.com/patents/US3435727

Gun recoil spring assembly
https://www.google.com/patents/US3435728

Jeff Cooper and the Creation of Practical Shooting Sports
    Big Bear Leatherslaps (~1956), Bear Valley Gunslingers (~1959) & Southwest Combat Pistol League (~1963)

    https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2015/3/26/throwback-thursday-jeff-cooper/

    http://www.gopherflats.net/club-matches/swpl-practical-shooting/swpl-past-champions/

    http://topgunmotorcycles.com/new/category/recollections-combat-master/


The rise of the practical gunsmiths and “combat conversions” 

https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2011/3/1/the-evolution-of-the-custom-combat-45/

    First extended M1911 thumb safety (No later than 1958)

    Armand Swenson (1965)

    http://coolgunsite.com/comm_pistols/custom/swenson/swenson.htm
    https://americanhandgunner.com/1978issues/AHMJ78.pdf#page=44


Pistol safety mechanism adapted for right or left hand operation
    https://www.google.com/patents/US3492748

    Gun sight
https://www.google.com/patents/USD273217

    Automatic slide guard
    https://www.google.com/patents/US4742634

    George Sheldon

    https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=292287

    Paris Theodore - ASP


    https://americanhandgunner.com/1979issues/HND79.pdf#page=24
https://web.archive.org/web/20160426095416/http://www.thegunzone.com:80/people/paris_theodore.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20160318040515/http://thegunzone.com/people/paris_theodore2.html

Grips for Handguns    
https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pdfs/US3758978.pdf

    Gunsight
    https://www.google.com/patents/US3777380

Pistol
    https://www.google.com/patents/usd230400

    Jim Hoag

    https://americanhandgunner.com/1979issues/HSO79.pdf#page=28
    http://www.chuckhawks.com/jim_hoag.html
    https://youtu.be/eh8tyxEMPxI

    Austin Behlert 

    http://www.randgfirearms.com/5141.html
    http://www.randgfirearms.com/26901.html
    https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=361527

    Gun sight
    https://www.google.com/patents/USD238781
    https://www.google.com/patents/USD254502
    https://www.google.com/patents/USD254680

    Adjustable gun trigger mechanism
    https://www.google.com/patents/US4691461
    
    Pachmayr Combat Special (Tom Dornhaus and Craig Wetstein - 1972)

    https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=451130

    Bar-Sto Precision Machine match barrels (Irv Stone, Jr. - 1967)

    http://news.sd.gov/newsitem.aspx?id=19756

The official creation of IPSC (May 1976) and the rise of new pistolsmiths

    https://www.ipsc.org/ipsc/columbiaconference.php

    Charlie Kelsey - Devel

    Mini-39        http://americanhandgunner.com/1979issues/HMJ79.pdf#page=24
Mini-59        http://americanhandgunner.com/1980issues/HSO80.pdf#page=42
Gammon    https://americanhandgunner.com/1982issues/HJF82.pdf#page=33
8-rd magazine    https://americanhandgunner.com/1983issues/HMA83.pdf#page=33
    Gammon II    http://americanhandgunner.com/1984issues/HSO84.pdf#page=42

https://web.archive.org/web/20160520053616/http://www.thegunzone.com:80/people/charlie_kelsey.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20160520024306/http://www.thegunzone.com:80/people/charlie_kelsey3.html

    Bill Wilson 

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/wilsoncombat/files/the-combat-auto.pdf
    https://americanhandgunner.com/1980issues/HND80.pdf#page=38
http://home.insightbb.com/~bloodythumb/WC_1982_Catalog.pdf
    https://youtu.be/jRaP4Qjjncs
    
    Ed Brown

    https://www.uspsa.org/frontsight_archive/a/1985-09.pdf#page=15
https://americanhandgunner.com/1985issues/HSO85.pdf#page=26

    Bill Laughridge - Cylinder & Slide

    https://americanhandgunner.com/1979issues/HMJ79.pdf#page=35
    http://www.cylinder-slide.com/articles.shtml

    Steve Nastoff

    https://americanhandgunner.com/1985issues/HSO85.pdf#page=56

    Richard Heinie

    https://www.uspsa.org/frontsight_archive/a/1986-03.pdf#page=15
https://americanhandgunner.com/1986issues/HMA86.pdf#page=42
https://youtu.be/FiRA7BJSP14

    Jim Boland
    
    https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=764042
http://imgur.com/a/IW4HZ
    http://www.231club.com/index.php?id=9:jim-boland&lang=en
http://www.231club.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=10:jim-boland&catid=2:general-pages&Itemid=22&lang=en
    https://www.uspsa.org/frontsight_archive/a/1986-01.pdf#page=21
    https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=19726

    Bruce Gray

    https://www.uspsa.org/frontsight_archive/a/2005-01.pdf#page=38
https://www.uspsa.org/frontsight_archive/a/2005-03.pdf#page=38

    Les Baer

    https://americanhandgunner.com/1985issues/HJA85.pdf#page=39
https://www.uspsa.org/frontsight_archive/a/1985-09.pdf#page=13

    Wayne Novak

    https://www.google.com/patents/USD296227
    https://www.google.com/patents/USD301512
    https://www.google.com/patents/USD305146
    https://www.google.com/patents/USD305561
    https://www.google.com/patents/USD315776

    Paul Liebenberg    

    https://americanhandgunner.com/1986issues/HJF86.pdf#page=34
    http://www.pistoldynamics.com/Articles_2011.html

The IPSC Arms Race Begins

    http://americanhandgunner.com/1984issues/HSO84.pdf#page=46

    Extended ported barrels
    Longslides
    Williams Quick-Comp (~1978)
Clark Pin Gun (1979)
    Plaxco Comp (1980)
    https://americanhandgunner.com/1986issues/HMA86.pdf#page=40
    Wilson Accu-Comp C (1981)
    https://americanhandgunner.com/1982issues/HND82.pdf#page=30
    Wilson Accu-Comp LE (1984)
    https://americanhandgunner.com/1985issues/HJA85.pdf#page=35
Wilson Accu-Comp DP (1988)

Growth of the Aftermarket Parts Industry

    Caspian Arms (1983)
    https://americanhandgunner.com/the-caspian-dream/

Rise of the .38 Super/Major 9

The birth of the Major PF .38 Super owes a certain amount of credit to Jeff Cooper's wildcat "Super 9" covered in the December 1973 issue of Guns & Ammo. Cooper gave quite a bit of credit to others who had been hot-rodding the .38 Super: gunwriters George Nonte and Mason Williams, gunsmith Terry Tussey, and John Adams of SAECO Bullet Moulds. At the time, Cooper noted that the downside to hot-rodding .38 Super was the unsupported barrel, and potential for case web failure. The base pistol was a .38 Super Colt Commander customized by Jim Hoag with a ~6.5" Bar-Sto barrel. Cooper originally started with hot .38 Super rounds loaded by John Adams. In the long barrel, Adams could get to roughly 1,600 fps with a 125gr projectile before the .38 Super cases began to blow. To improve the strength of the case web, Whit Collins suggested that Cooper try .223 Remington brass cut to .38 Super length. The change in cases allowed the Super 9 wildcat to achieve ~1,750 fps with the same 125gr projectiles. However, Cooper never saw this as a competition pistol, but as a lightweight/long range trail pistol.

In the November/December 1980 issue of American Handgunner, Dick Thomas noted that in 1977 Ken Hackathorn had floated the idea of building a .38 Super competition pistol. This might have been in response to 1977 IPSC World Shoot, which some folks claimed that been set up by the Rhodesian hosts to favor the higher capacity of the Browning Hi-Power. Note that the winner was Rhodesian Dave Westerhout using a BHP. Thomas developed a load with Speer's 125gr JSP that achieved 1,380 fps. This was sufficient to make Major on Hackathorn's ballistic pendulum. He considered recoil to be low, with the trade off being additional flash and blast. Thomas believed that the high velocity would simplify the lead on moving targets, and reduce the need to hold over on 60yd targets. Not mentioned was the fact that the .38 Super gave two extra shots over the .45 ACP.

Bruce Gray claims that he built his first .38 Super competition pistol for a customer in late 1978, followed by a second pistol for himself. They used 173gr cast bullets to achieve Major PF on the ballistic pendulums of the era. In response, some local clubs banned their pistols outright, while other clubs raised the threshold for Major PF to 185. Gray claims that he was told that the organizers of the 1981 US Nationals would not allow the pistol to be scored as Major no matter how it performed ballistically.

In any case, Gray's .38 Super pistols brought him to the attention of Charles Kelsey of Devel. Gray worked with Kelsey on the development of the .38 Super Gammon II, which was campaigned by Chip McCormick and Mark Duncan in 1983. Kelsey had plans for a dedicated Major PF wildcat, the 9mm Devel, using a strengthened case, but this never reached mass production.

The Super's popularity really took off when Rob Leatham and Brian Enos started campaigning Wilson Combat-built .38 Supers in 1984, with Leatham winning the 1984 US Nationals.

From around 1980 to 1993, IPSC and USPSA only allowed flush flt magazines for the M1911. While solid bumper pads were kosher, you could not use an an extended tube or a hollow baseplate to expand the capacity of the pistol. So the only way to increase your magazine capacity in the single-stack M1911 was to either use a Devel (pre-Shooting Star) follower and/or swap to a smaller caliber.

In response to the rise of the .38 Super, match directors began to increase the round counts of stages to force reloads upon the .38 Super shooters, who then held a 1-3 round advantage over their .45 ACP brethren. To counter this, gamers then scrambled to find a 9x19mm high-capacity pistol that would remain together when loaded to Major PF. You had gunsmiths playing with "Major 9" in the HK P7M13 (Bruce Gray), the Browning Hi-Power (Cylinder & Slide), and the CZ75 (Don Fisher.)

Things really came to a head when shooters sponsored by S&W and Springfield started to field hi-cap "Major 9" pistols. A few months prior to the 1990 Nationals and World Shoot, the USPSA BOD banned the use of 9x19mm at Major PF when loaded shorter than 1.25". The sponsored shooters quickly rechambered their pistols from 9x19mm to 9x21mm IMI. The joke was that they were using 9mm JLE (Just Long Enough).

Explosion of the Aftermarket Parts Industry

    Shooting Star / CMC (Chip McCormick and Virgil Tripp)
    EGW (1991 - George Smith)

Creation of Factory Custom Shops to Support Sponsored Shooters

    Springfield Custom Shop (Tim Dillon, Les Baer, Jack Weigand, and Dave Williams)
    
    S&W Performance Center (Paul Liebenberg and John French)

Rise of the Red Dot and M1911 Widebody Frames (1990)

The 1990 US Nationals were the last hoorah for the single-stack .38 Super, but added a new wrinkle in the form of red dot sights. The real equipment race was sparked a month later when Doug Koenig took the 1990 World Shoot with a red-dot equipped Springfield P9 in 9x21mm.

That is when you started to see major work at perfecting a high-capacity M1911 frame suitable for .38 Super. While Jim Boland and Otto Matyska had individually fabricated one-off high capacity M1911 frames in the 1980s, nothing was commercially available until the Para-Ordnance frame kits came on the market. However, their quality control was not always the best, nor did they have a .38 Super magazine available in the early days. About the only person trying to campaign the Para-Ord in its first few years was John Dixon. I seem to remember that he even had Para-Ord custom cast one out of beryllium copper. However, the first USPSA Nationals win for Para-Ord was in 1991 with Todd Jarrett using a pistol built by Blake Gann. The same year Jerry Barnhart used a Wilson Combat with a custom high-cap M1911 frame fabricated by George Huening. The Wilson/Huening pistol used CZ75 magazines.

The Caspian and CMC (pre-STI & SV Infinity) widebody frames hit the market in 1992. There was a loophole in the IPSC/USPSA magazine rule (7.05) that allowed non-flush magazines if the extended magazine was the standard equipment introduced with the pistol/frame. Caspian and CMC exploited this rule to increase their magazine capacity over the CZ75 and its clones.

The CMC frame kit's first USPSA Open Nationals win was in 1992. Jerry Barnhart's racegun was built by Wilson Combat. Matt McLearn used a Caspian widebody frame to win the 1993 USPSA Nationals and IPSC World Shoot.

The Backlash Ensues - IPSC Standard/USPSA Limited (1992)

Limited Division was formally introduced in USPSA around 1992 in response to the backlash against the optics and muzzle brakes. The latter were growing ever longer with multiple expansion chambers to use every bit of high pressure gases. Briefly, the Major PF caliber minimum in Limited was 0.354" just like in Open. The USPSA Board of Directors thought they were being clever when they imposed a production minimum for eligible pistols and required three manufacturers to produce Major PF loads for a cartridge to be legal. This ended the moment that S&W appeared ready to succeed with their Model 3566 and .356 TSW. Even as S&W was sending fliers out to dealers stating that this combo was Limited Division Major PF legal, the USPSA BOD quickly met and increased the minimum caliber for Limited Major PF to 0.400". (Personally, I think that the .357 SIG would have never been born if S&W had properly marketed the .356 TSW outside of competition use.)

The minimum production number rules for Limited Division kept the CMC and Caspian frame kits out of play for a few years. This changed once STI started making complete pistols in late August 1993. However, the minimum production rule basically meant that they were only legal just a few weeks ahead of the 1994 Limited Nationals. (The Para-Ordnance P16.40, introduced in early September 1993, suffered the same fate.) The Caspian frames weren't legal for Limited until 1998 after Fred Craig cranked out a large number of his "Fantom" models. That said, the Caspian frames were never really a big thing in Limited as their magazine width was not optimized for any cartridge larger than 9x23mm/.38 Super.

While it suffered for the first few years due to the lack of approved widebody pistols, the 40 S&W ultimately became the Limited Division cartridge of choice due to its capacity advantage over the .45 ACP. However, STI soon began to exploit further loopholes. The STI Eagle 5.1's factory bull barrel ultimately led to approval of bull barrels across the board starting 1994. Coned barrels quickly pushed out the conventional bushing set-up. STI went on to add full-length dust covers and then heavy, long dust covers, leading to their approval in June 1996.

Loading tricks became the reverse of Open Division; shooters gravitated to heavy bullets with fast burning powders so pressures would be lower as the bullet left the barrel. Some went even further, with shooters using 250-260gr bullets in .45 ACP and 200-220gr bullets in .40 S&W and 10mm. The extra heavy bullets worked in the .40 M1911-pattern as most shooters were loading them long for more reliable feeding. You might ask why not go to the 10mm? Well, once-fired .40 S&W brass was a lot cheaper due to its popularity in police departments. Of course, trouble began when folks would try to duplicate these heavy bullet .40 S&W loads at shorter lengths so they would fit in a Glock or other stock pistols.

The 170mm magazine rule was passed in 1992, and went into effect on January 1, 1993 in both IPSC and USPSA. However, IPSC only allowed it Open Division, but not their Standard Division. In contrast, USPSA decided to allow it in Limited Division for a year. After the first year, the standard-length magazine rule was reapplied to double-stack frames, while still allowing single-stack frames to use 170mm magazines. In 1995, USPSA revisited the issue setting the maximum length to 140mm for double-stack frames in Limited.

Of course, stage round counts started to go out of sight. I think part of the USPSA BOD's logic for the 170mm single stack magazine Limited Division was that the M1911 .45 ACP shooters with 11rd magazines would be able to keep up with the wide-body M1911 frames. I suspect the 140mm dimension was based upon the lengths of the OEM 20rd magazines that had long been available for the Browning P35, SIG-Sauer P226, Beretta 92, and S&W Model 59-series. These extended magazines had long been used by Military and Police tactical teams.

Unfortunately, most of the 11rd .45 ACP single-stack magazines were junk, and the makers of the double-stack M1911 frames quickly developed extended magazines. Moreover, the "High Capacity Feeding Device" ban went into effect in September 1994. As a result, all of the extended single-stack magazine development went into 10rd magazines. However, a lot of double-stack M1911 shooters played hard and fast with the replacement parts loophole. We were extremely lucky that the Feds didn't clamp down. After all, years earlier, some ATF field offices had gone after pistols with optics mounts that were too close to the serial number. Needless to say, most optics mounts quickly standardized on the dust cover.

Backlash Part 2 - USPSA Limited Division Arms Race

Established pistolsmiths begin to drop out of USPSA in favor of carry pistols.

New shooting organizations formed by IPSC/USPSA alumni .

    1911 SSC (1994 - Richard Heinie, Russell Cluver, Frank James, Walt Rauch, Bob Houzenga, Jerry Glogoski, Steve Kalaman, Kerby Smith, and Bill Laughridge)

    http://1911ssc.com/
    http://1911ssc.com/original-1995-ssc-results/

    IDPA (1996 - Bill Wilson, John Sayle, Ken Hackathorn, Dick Thomas, Walt Rauch, and Larry Vickers)
    http://www.idpa.com/

The Rise of the Pistolsmith Manufacturer

    Baer Custom - 1993

    Wilson Combat - 1996

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Daniel - Where can people find you?  Loose Rounds (http://looserounds.com/ and http://looserounds.com/556timeline/) & on Facebook at “The 5.56mm Timeline: A Chronology of Development” (https://www.facebook.com/The-556mm-Timeline-A-Chronology-of-Development-259763052133/)

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Handgun Radio 171 - Triggered

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, Weerd & I discuss our range trip & different types of triggers!

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Skipping Week In Review as its Main Topic!

Drink Segment: Ryan’s Whiskey Flight: Ryan wanted a drink but couldn’t decide what he wanted, and he didn’t feel like passing out before dinner was served.

Ideal situation for a cocktail flight!

So I mixed him this trio:

Manhattan,  Boulevardier, and a whiskey sour.

Ryan  didn’t like the Boulevardier,  but Compari is hit-or-miss for people,   The Manhattan wasn’t his favorite but I think it was the Dutch Bitters Boomtown Bitters, which are heavy in Sassafras.

But the Whiskey Sour was a big hit.

2 parts Rye Whiskey

1 part lemon juice

0.5 parts simple syrup.

You can also add in about 0.5oz fresh egg white and whip that into a froth before you shake with ice.   I didn’t think Ryan would appreciate that, so I omitted it.

Main Topic: Triggered

Now, I know this topic has been covered a little bit on this show before, but it was quite awhile ago and we may have some new listeners so I thought it might be fun to go into a bit of a detailed discussion of trigger types and differences. Also, I got to shoot a bunch of Weerds firearms this past week when we made a trip down to see him and went to Massachusetts Rifle & Pistol Club at Walnut Hill. We shot the Colt 1908 .25 ACP, Ruger LCR in .357 Magnum & .22 Long Rifle, S&W Model 617 in .22 LR, S&W 1911Sc in .45 ACP, Beretta 21A in .22 LR, Colt Trooper MkIII in .357 Magnum, Kahr PM45 (We shot his FAL too but that isn’t quite a handgun)

Trigger Types/Categories:

Single-Action

Double Action

Single Action/Double Action

Striker Fired

Double Action Only

Specific Types such as:

-SIG DAK (Double Action Kellerman)

-SFS System (Cylinder & Slide)

-Fast Action Trigger System (Daewoo/Lionheart) *Essentially same as SFS System*

Target Triggers

Set Triggers

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Handgun Radio 170 - Lesser Known Handgun Manufacturers

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

Tonight,  Weerd & I discuss some lesser known handgun manufacturers!

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Week in Review:

Ryan: -Getting ready to head down to MA for a few days! Gonna finally get to go to the range with Weerd!!!

 Weerd: 

Drink Segment:  Snow Cones!

You can make flavored syrup by mixing the proper proportions of sugar and drink mix with equal amounts of water.

You then take your trusty lewis bag and a hammer and make a glass full of snow, and you can have all the fun at the fair for a fraction of the price.

https://www.amazon.com/Houseables-Condiment-Container-Polyethylene-Restaurant/dp/B01E0CAWJ2/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1497230764&sr=8-6&keywords=condiment+bottles+with+cap

Main Topic: Lesser Known Semi-Auto Handgun Manufacturers

Haskell "Hi-Point" Pistol

FEG Pistols

Grendel INC

Mauser M2 & HSc 

Jehrico 941

Star Megastar & Firestar

Daewoo

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Handgun Radio 169 - Ammo: The Good, The (Maybe) Bad & The Ugly

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, Weerd and I discuss some ammunition! 

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Week in Review: 

Ryan: - Shot the Stevens .22 LR Ranger, the S&W M&P 15 AR, the Sig 226, Volquartsen & the Taurus PT22 Poly

Weerd: Lousy Weekend,  no fun for me

Drink Segment:  Dry Martini  because I NEED one.    Tonight my gin is Tanqueray No TEN,  which is their small batch premium gin.     Some premium brands really aren’t worth the added money, but this stuff is pretty damn good.  

https://www.amazon.com/glacio-Silicone-Ice-Sphere-Tray/dp/B018IAQ92G/ref=sr_1_2?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1496108623&sr=1-2-spons&keywords=ball+ice+mold&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Zenware-Silicone-Extra-Large-Cubes/dp/B01K856OXS/ref=sr_1_10?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1496108593&sr=1-10&keywords=cube+ice+mold

 

Main Topic:  Ammunition: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly

Listener Question:

Name: Douglas

Subject: Revolvers

Message: Looking for a 22 LR revolver just for fun, plinking. What do you recommend? Any particular gun?

I have looked at Rugers, but not sure I want to spend that much just for plinking and for a non-defensive use handgun. I am looking at the Heritage Rough Rider single action. I know, you get what you pay for, but a lot of reviews do say its still a decent gun for its price.

Appreciate your time,

-Douglas

The Good:

Speer Gold Dot, Federal HST, Winchester PDX, Hornady XTP  

The (Maybe) Bad & Ugly (Or just misunderstood) 

Federal Guard Dog

Black Talons

Hydra Shok

Glaser Pow'r Ball (Maybe...Depends) 

Extreme Shock Ammo

R.I.P Ammo 

Liberty Ammunition Civil Defense  

Pistol Shot Loads (For Self Defense)

Shot in a rifled pistol/revolver

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Handgun Radio 168 - Listener Email Discussion!

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, Weerd and I discuss some new revolver ammo, and respond to some listener email!!!!

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Drink Segment: Cobbler Shaker:   So unpacking after the NRA show, the cap to my cobbler shaker I brought with me was missing.   They aren’t much good without a cap as you would be wearing your drink when you shake it.   So I ordered a new one on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PF1EY1K/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This one is a decent price, and works great.    I prefer a cobbler shaker as you don’t need a separate strainer, also you can keep your finger over the cap when shaking so there is little risk of a spill.    The downside is you really shouldn’t be filling the shaker body completely full as there isn’t a whole empty cup like a boston shaker that uses a pint glass and a steel cup to give air space for the shake.    Still if you’re making just a few drinks at most this isn’t a problem.  Also the metal-to-metal contacts can freeze,  but this can be fixed with a quick rinse under hot water.

Main Topic: Listener Email Discussion

Federal HST .38 Special

 

Name: Byron

Subject: .40 Kahr

Message: I found a K40 Kahr handgun and was wondering if you knew how the K series compares with the Kahr handguns you and Weerd have - also wondering if I got it could I change out the barrels and make a .357 Sig out of it? Thanks for any input you could give me and love the show!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzh16zi55G0
Listener Anthony:

Does bullet weight effect recoil significantly?

Talking 115 vs 147 in 9mm

200 vs 230 in 45acp?

Came to you guys first because you guys are just that awesome! Have a great day and thanks in advance!

Name: Kaleb Kidd

Message: I am looking to purchase a 9mm 1911 for mainly range use and possibly a Carry gun in formal settings, but definitely not a edc. Assuming a $1,000 budget, would the host suggest going with something in the entry level Kimber line or the Springfield Armory Range Officer, or is there another brand or line I should consider. I want to keep it pretty standard because I would like to upgrade sights, grips, and possible other parts down the road?

Thanks again for the great show! 

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Listener Todd:

Good Morning from the sunny south!  I've got a question for you. Have you boys had any experience it a Rock Island Armory M206? I'm thing of getting on as a BUG. Thoughts?

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Handgun Radio 167 - The NRA Show 2017 Experience with Weerd

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, Weerd & I talk about his recent trip to NRA Annual Meetings 2017!

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Week in Review:

Ryan: Shot a car today! Used a Remington 887 Nitro with 3 ½ in shells….fun to see, but not terribly enjoyable.

Weerd: When it rains it pours!    Went to NRAA Meeting,   got some Eddie Eagle videos which my Daughter LOVES,  you can get them free on youtube.

Then a buddy of mine FINALLY took me up on a range trip as he’s planning on buying his first gun soon and wanted to try out an assortment of guns to see what he liked.

Sadly he shot my semi-autos WAY better than my revolvers,  so we may not make a wheel gunner of him

Drink Segment: While at the house I was cooking dinner for the gang and I was also the bartender.   Made Martinis, Manhattans,  and one night when a call for “Something new” was requested,  I decided to make a gimlet….only my traditional recipe of 0.5oz Elderflower Liqueur, 1oz lime juice, and 2oz Gin was not available.    I did have sugar for a simple syrup,  but it was dark brown,   and I had limes, but they were key limes which taste fantastic, but are VERY small.    So I elected to squeeze a lemon too to make up the needed amount of juice for a large crowd of thirsty gunbloggers.    To tie it all together I had a bottle of peychaud’s bitters, and that tied the dark richness of the brown sugar with the brightness of the lime and lemon juice.   It was something unique, and quite good!

Main Topic: NRA Show 2017 Wrap-Up with Weerd Beard

THE TRIP DOWN

THE HOUSE

THE LOCATION: ATLANTA

THE VENUTE ATLANTA WORLD CONGRESS CENTE

THE TRIP TO MOMMYS DEMAND THINGS RALLY

NEW GUNS
KAHR S

EDC X9

COLT COBRA

CZ P10

SPECTRUM

WTF PRODUCTS

THE TRIP HOME

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Handgun Radio 166 - Growing Up A Gunwriters Son

(Note: This episode was recorded before NRA AM 2017)

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This week, we discuss what its like to grow up a gunwriters son with Jordan Bell!

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Week in Review:

Ryan: - Browsed the collection at the James D Julia Auction House and it was amazing! Saw the High Standard T3 Prototype that Daniel Watters has talked about previously, as well as the main gun used by Pacino in Scarface.
Jordan: Tomorrow we’re taking out the new Henry 410 lever action and a Taurus Judge. Shooting will happen. And pictures. This week prior… I took pictures for an article dad is doing on moonclips and revolver cleaning. Earlier I did pics for the S&W M325.

Weerd:   Getting my ducks in a row for the NRA show.    I’m so excited to go.

Drink Segment:  Dutch’s American Era Variety 3-Pack: http://www.dutchsspirits.com/dutchs-spirits-american-era-variety-bitters-3-pack/

This is a REALLY great set of bitters for a reasonable price.

Right now I’m drinking a dry Martini with the Prohi-bitters,  which really turns a good martini into a great martini.

For those who haven’t had a chance to experiment with bitters,  obviously the standard Angostura bitters and Orange Bitters will get the most use, but these variety packs can easily get you into the exotics for short money.

Main Topic: Growing Up a Gunwriters Son

Growing up with a gunwriter father….when did you start really paying attention to what dad was doing?

  • Guns, AT VERY EARLY age. Laying all about. Thus, learning gun safety before even swimming.

  • Shooting my first gun at 3. It was a Ruger MKII.

  • Seeing tons of guns over the years. Building my own little obsession.

  • Gun obsession leading to fun at school. Getting toy guns taken away. Drawing them on everything. Getting yelled at for that. Etc. Thank god is wasnt the modern day or Id be expelled and incarcerated.

  • Later, learning a bit of the tradecraft to writing (for old school print). Having fun listening to dad TYPE on a Smith Corona, and it making machine guns sounds when auto typing after.

  • I started paying attention in my teens. Getting really interested in the guns and their differences. Learning the history behind them. Building up favorites and then being crushed when dad didn’t keep those particular ones.

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  • Jordan where can people find you?

 

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Handgun Radio 165 - Pre NRA 2017 Prep with Weerd Beard

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, Weerd & I talk about his upcoming trip to NRA Annual Meetings 2017!

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Week in Review:

Ryan: Didn’t do to much firearms related, got to shoot my grandfathers .22 LR rifle a bit. Using the CCI Quiet ammo you have to hold over a little bit at 50 yards but it is basically hearing safe in my experience.

Weerd: NRA show!   So excited to get out of town and hang out at the Gun Blog Variety House, get some interviews for all my shows, and hopefully meet some fans!


Drink Segment: Since I’m flying to Georgia I can’t bring my travel bar,  what Will I do to keep my masses entertained when we return to the house at the end of the night.

My plan is to pack my cobbler shaker (it’s all metal so it won’t break) and I can put a few small bottles of bitters into it, as well as some garnish picks.

I’m asking my housemates who are driving to do their best to supply glassware,  and Sean and I are planning on cooking dinner for the troops in the evening, so we’ll be hitting the grocery store, as well as the liquor store for supplies.

I’m excited to see what I can cook up under those limitations.

Main Topic: Pre-NRA Annual Meeting Preparation!

What guns do you want to see?

What guns are you ambivalent about?

What are your travel plans and how hard were they to get set up?

Are you concerned about the traffic nightmare that is Atlanta?

What has been your favorite thing about past NRA shows and what has been your least favorite thing?
 

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Handgun Radio 164 - Our Favorite Forgotten Weapons

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This week, Weerd and I discuss our favorite handguns from Forgotten Weapons library!!!

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Week in Review:

Ryan: -Checked out some cool pistols at the Cabelas gun library!

Weerd:

Drink Segment:  Made something very simple and VERY interesting.  It’s called Oleo-Saccharum  which simple means “oil Sugar”.

You make it by peeling citrus (in my case limes) and letting it sit for about an hour,  then you can add some water and bring it to a boil and then strain and you have a really nice flavored syrup.   I have it mixed with rum for a pseudo daiquiri,   but for those who aren’t drinkers,  you can do this with lemons, and then juice the lemons, maybe add some soda water and make yourself some spectacular lemonade this summer
 

Main Topic: Our Favorite Forgotten Weapons

If you haven’t been to the Forgotten Weapons website, you are missing out. Ian has an excellent website and a huge inventory of information about handguns that are uncommon or there isn’t much information about. We figured we could talk about some of our favorites!!

Ryan’s Picks

Trejo Machine Pistol Model 1 .22 LR

Test Trials Knoble Pistol

Savage 45

US Test Trials White-Merrill .45 Caliber Pistol

MAC 1950

Smith & Wesson Model 1913 in .35 Smith & Wesson

Elmer Keith’s M29

Elmer Keith Kaboom

Walther P38 Development

Savage Automatic Pistols
 

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Handgun Radio 163 - The Listener Email Show!

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad  from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

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This week, Weerd & I respond to some listener emails!!!

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Week in Review:

Ryan: Didn’t do to much in firearms, but finished my review of the RPS Tactical holster for my Steyr C9A1. It is a fantastic holster.

Weerd: I got thinking.   How hard would it be to swap the barrel on a hi-point?    Wouldn’t a Hi-point .40 converted to .357 SIG be the most hipster gun on the planet?
 

Drink Segment: Tonight I’m drinking the Bronx Cocktail.

Since this is an older drink, there are lots of variations,  but I settled on 2 parts gin, and one part of each sweet vermouth, dry vermouth, and orange juice.

I generally don’t like mixing with orange juice as it has a much milder flavor than say lemon, lime, or grapefruit.    That being said it has a very mellow flavor that others might love.

Now here’s the fun part,   since I have my flight glasses, and I was concerned with how much I’d like this, I instead made 3 small Bronx variations.    One with Orange Juice, one with Lime, one with Grapefruit.      I think the grapefruit is my favorite.

Also there is a cocktail named after all 5 boroughs of New York City, tho the Manhattan is really the only one that is still popular.

Main Topic:

Message: In reference to podcast 155 and the discussion of the decision to develop the .45ACP... that's only half the story.

The truth is that the U.S. didn't want to change the gun. The Philippine Insurrection of 1899 did, in fact, see repeated failures of the standard solid lead .38LC to affect stops on the Morro tribesmen. But the U.S. thought that it was more efficient, less expensive, and just a better idea to change the ammunition. We wanted to stop issuing solid nose .38 bullets and change them to more effective expanding point bullets. Remember, we've known since the Mine Ball's of the Civil War that bullets which expand and deform cause more damage. Hunting periodicals of the 1890's recognized this and expanding point bullet patents clearly show the progress of technology.

But something else happened in 1899 as well. Something political. The Hague Convention of 1899. The British were making use of expanding point ammunition, pioneered for them in their ammunition plant in DumDum India. The Brits were having trouble with their small caliber rifles passing through Dervishes and African Tribesmen without stopping. However, at the time, the Germans and the French were political adversaries in the equivalent of the late 19th Century cold war. The French and the Germans used propaganda to vilify the British for using expanding point "Dum Dum" ammunition as inhumane hunting bullets, in contravention with the gentlemanly conventions of modern war.

As you recall, the Hague Convention of 1899 eventually banned the use of expanding point ammunition in war, with the only two dissenting votes being the U.S. and Britain.

Because the original plan of using more effective expanding point ammunition was now no longer possible, the U.S. was stuck. Issuing slightly redesigned ammunition in the same cartridge is cheap. Designing, implementing, and issuing a new handgun with an entirely new ammunition is expensive. But, because the French were a-scared exploding bullets of death... well, hello Mr. Browning. :D

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Hey Ryan , I enjoy listening to you and Weerd !! I have a new job that requires me to wear a company shirt tucked in and no outer garment. I wear jeans with it. I want to carry at work but am on the road visiting customers and can not print or even have holster belt clips showing. What are your suggestions on what I should carry. I am getting in and out of a car all day long

Thanks

(I recommended a NAA Mini in .22 Magnum)

Hey Ryan, I had thought of a mini, but decided to get a Kahr CW380. Just not sure how to carry it. Have to wear a tucked shirt with no cover garment. Maybe a thin type pocket holster or I was even thinking of a shoulder holster. What are your thoughts about a holster? I have to wear jeans. I wish I could wear  my loose fitting Carhartts.

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About 12 years ago, when I bought my first handgun, I got sucked into the .40 S&W. Recently I've come to realize this wasn't the best decision. I have chronic wrist pain from years of being a drummer and the .40 really kills my wrist. So my question is, what is the best way to switch from "a .40 guy" to shooting 9mm. Keep in mind, I have 5-6 handguns in .40 S&W and several thousand rounds. Thanks for all you do!

Brian from Arkansas

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Just listened to episode 160, great show! Although I've had the "invincible bad guy" dream that Weird described, the worst that I have had is being unable to pull the trigger when needed. I carry a J frame a lot and that did worry me with such a long trigger pull...so much so that I started carrying Glocks for that reason! Yes gun superstitions are very real!

Timothy I'm glad y'all talked about dreams! Several times I've had the dream where the ax murderer is coming at me, and no mater how hard I squeeze the trigger, it never moves. I don't own a blue gun, so I don't know where that's coming from, but you don't feel good about it when you wake up!

Logan The dream I constantly have is when I go to shoot they are all squibs and the bullets barely fall out of the barrel. No matter how many mag changes, they are all squibs. I have only shot 1 squib in my life, so I'm not sure where this is coming from.

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Handgun Radio 162 - Custom Pistolsmithing with KGB Customs

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad  from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

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This week, Weerd and I chat with Karl, the owner of KGB Customs out of Ohio, about his career as a custom pistolsmith!

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Week in Review:

Ryan: -Unplanned range trip yesterday! Got to take out my Steyr, Sig P226, Model 60, 19, as well as a few others. My neighbor critter brought his S&W Model 34 .22 LR, his Star Model B 9mm and one that I hadn’t ever shot, a Cimmaron replica of the 1860 Mason-Richards Army conversion. It was in .38 Special and shot great! Very accurate and a great trigger, and you don’t need to fuss with loose powder and ball! Video coming soon.

-There was a home invasion in my area recently. There was an article in the paper where the son of the elderly woman whose home was invaded came to the home after she called him. He was armed with his Ruger LCP and was ambushed as he entered the home by the intruder who hit him with what is believed to be a hammer. The son ended up shooting the man in the chest with the LCP but then got in a struggle with him over the gun until the son finally got the upper hand and the police arrived. Lots of lessons here Link to Video and Article

Karl:
Weerd:

Drink Segment:  http://www.weerdworld.com/2017/when-mixology-takes-flight/
 

Main Topic: Custom Pistolsmithing with KGB Customs

I have become familiar with Karls work through the Custom Handguns group on facebook. The Custom Handguns group is the premier group to be in if you like seeing the art that some of these pistolsmiths perform. Karl has done everything from 1911’s to CZ’s and everything in between. I especially like the work he does on 1911’s and Hi-Powers.

Karl, how did you get started pistolsmithing and when did you start KGB Customs?

What are the main guns that come through your shop?

What are some of the most common modifications you perform?

What has been the most challenging firearm you’ve ever worked on and what is the most challenging modification to perform?

What are some modifications that you would advise people to avoid?

You posted recently a picture of a Colt Combat Commander in .38 Super that had been worked over by Novak. What was the story behind that? (P.S. I want to get a gun EXACTLY like that one, it looks amazing.)

What does the future look like for KGB Customs? Do you have any exciting projects coming up?

What is the best way for people to contact you and inquire about having work done?

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  • Karl! Thank you so much for coming on! Where can people find you or contact you if they want work done?

Until next week, have fun & safe shooting!!!

Handgun Radio 161 - So You Want To Be a Collector...

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This week, Weerd, Alex & I discuss collecting firearms!!!

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Week in Review:

Ryan: - Gotta go to the range this weekend and try shooting my Sig Sauer P226 and my Steyr. I want to get some more rangetime in with those and with the revolvers that I have too. I haven’t been shooting them much!!!!

Alex:

Weerd:
 

Drink Segment: Since it seems like everybody is sick right now,  I thought I’d take a classic cocktail and add some folk-remedy twists.

So tonight’s drink is a Whiskey Sour.    Like all the sours (ie Daiquiri,  Margarita,  Gimlet ect)  I use 2 parts whiskey, 1 part Lemon Juice, and 0.5 parts simple syrup.

This of course is shaken over ice.

But tonight I’ve made some adjustments that reflect some folk remedies i’ve heard about.   I think we’ve all heard of remedies that involve the whiskey and the lemon.   Lemon of course is very high in vitamin C which is good for you.   The whiskey part dates back to the times when the only “Medicine” available was “patent medicine” (which in the old days was simply snake oil),  Distilled spirits,  or Opium.

Rather than going with simple syrup which is 1-to-1 white sugar and water that is allowed to boil until it dissolves,   I’ve used honey mixed with a little water so it will go into solution.

Honey has lots of medicinal values from its micronutrients, and it’s said to coat the throat helping with cough.

Also I made the syrup immediately for the drink so this drink is warm rather than room temperature or cold.

Last I added some ginger to it,  ginger is said to help upset stomachs, and is used in many traditional medicines.    Plus it just goes well with all the other ingredients.

We’ll see if it works!

Main Topic: Collecting Firearms

Getting Started

Deciding what you want to collect & how?

Methods of obtaining firearms that you want

What to avoid doing when getting started collecting

Things to do to protect your investments
 

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  • Alex! Thanks for coming on the show!!!!

 

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Handgun Radio 160 - Gun Guy Superstitions

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This week, Weerd & I discuss some gun guy superstitions!!!

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Week in Review:

Ryan: - Took a friend out shooting to help him pick his first handgun, hes came to the conclusion he wants a Ruger MkIV!

  • My moms home burned recently. Surprisingly, almost all the guns survived relatively unharmed. There’s some water damage that has to be dealt with, but they are all salvageable. Many of them were in a glass front wooden cabinet, which seemed to protect them. Please consider getting a fireproof safe for any guns that are especially important to you, because a wooden cabinet is very little insurance.

Weerd:

Drink Segment: http://www.weerdworld.com/2017/the-bk-cocktail/

The BK Cocktail,   a few weeks ago I gave the recipe for a drink called The Big Chief.

It’s very similar to this one.    You could say one is the Standard Manhattan, this is the dry manhattan.

It’s 1.5 oz Rye

1oz Amaro (I’m using Montenegro)

0.5 oz Dry Vermouth

0.5 oz Luxardo

A few dashes of Angostura Bitters

Really complex flavors, and not as sweet as the Big Chief

Main Topic: Gun Guy Superstitions

-I don’t carry more than one reload….I don’t think I’ll need it.

-I need to run 500 rounds of carry ammo before my gun can be trusted

-Caliber warrior

-Gunfight Dreams

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Until next week, have fun & safe shooting!!!



 

Handgun Radio 159 - Protect Yourself with Your Snubnose Revolver with Grant Cunningham

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad  from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, we’re joined by Grant Cunningham, Author & Instructor, to discuss his new book “Protect Yourself with your Snubnose Revolver”!

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Week in Review:

Ryan:-Snow...lots of it. 40 inches overnight last night in the town next to us..probably close to 30” here. Getting last weeks show posted with the internet holding out hopefully….

Grant:
 

Weerd: Snow snow snow snow snow!

Also did assemble the arbor press.   To get maximum pressure It needs to be bolted down to a bench,  but with just my foot bracing it I managed to pop out the frame wedge out of my walker.    No idea if I need a new wedge or not,   been too tired to fiddle with it, and I want to be VERY deliberate, as I have no Idea how I got into this pickle.

Thanks for the Idea, Sidhartha Priest
 

Drink Segment: When you spent an entire day wrangling a 3 year old, and shoveling frozen snow, the drink that pairs best is quantity, not quality.

Tonight I’m drinking a martini made from 4 parts Linie Aquavit,  and Amantialldo Sherry with some blue cheese stuffed olives.

If you like your drinks a little bit sweet, you’ll HATE this!
 

Main Topic: Protect Yourself with Your Snubnose Revolver with Grant Cunningham

-What prompted you to write this book?

-How did you decide to divide the book up? It seems like the first half of the book is more concept based and the second half focuses on the various techniques.

-There is a chapter called “Vices and Virtues of the Snubby”. What are some of the things that you cover in that section?

-Even with all the advances in semi-auto pistol design, there are still a large number of people who carry a snubby as a primary weapon, and not in the backup gun type role. Why do you think that is?

-With a snubnose revolver, you are dealing with a very short barrel, which can affect bullet performance. What are some considerations when selecting carry ammunition for your snubby revolver?

-There is a great section called “Expecting the Unexpected: Possible, plausible, and likely” I think this is a great section for ANY book, but particularly for this one. Did you include this section for the people who say a J-Frame or other snubby just isn’t enough gun for carrying?

-If you could leave the listeners who want to carry a snubby revolver as a primary carry gun with one piece of advice, what  

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  • Grant, Where can people find you? www.grantcunningham.com

 

Until next week, have fun and safe shooting!!!

 

Handgun Radio 158 - The Army Handgun Contract & New Selection with Daniel Watters

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Ryan- -I will be buying a shotgun…..I’ve decided i want a shotgun now.

-I want to build a dedicated 9mm AR now….will I end up doing it? Probably at some point.

Nathaniel-

Daniel - New place for articles, Loose Rounds
http://looserounds.com/
http://looserounds.com/556timeline/

Weerd-

Drink Segment: Just discovered this about an hour before the show.

The “Final Ward” is a variation on The Last Word,  but the Gin is swapped for Rye, and of course you don’t mix whiskey with Lime, but lemon.  The Chartreuse and Luxardo are the same.

 

https://youtu.be/Lxs2-D7OPm0


Main Topic: The Army Handgun Contract & Selection with Daniel Watters

Daniel; we spoke before on the podcast about the Army handgun process and how the trials led to the Beretta. How did the whole process start for replacing the M9?

The M9, XM10, and M11 pistols were previously covered in:
HGR 105 - The Joint Service Small Arms Pistol Trials with Daniel Watters

http://firearmsradio.tv/handgun-radio/105


Early 1987 - SEAL Team 6 drops the Beretta 92 in favor of the SIG-Sauer P226

October 1988 - NSW requests 800 P226 for testing.

January 20, 1989 - NSW begins issue of the P226.

October 1989 - SOCOM initiates the Offensive Handgun Weapon System (OHWS) program.

November 27, 1989 - Pre-solicitation Industry Conference for OHWS


February, 1990 - Joint Service Operational Requirement (JSOR) for OHWS published.

August 28, 1991 - OHWS Phase I contracts to Colt and HK.

January 1994 - OHWS Phase II contract to HK

June 28, 1995 - OHWS Phase III (production) contract to HK.  The HK OHWS is ultimately designated the Mk 23 Mod 0.

Early 2000s - NSW works with HK to develop a variant of the USP45CT.  The initial hopes are to sneak its procurement under the radar as the Mk 23 Mod 1.

March 29, 2004 - Multi-Caliber Capable Pistols (Sources Sought notice from SOCOM Headquarters Procurement Division on behalf of the Naval Special Warfare Development Group)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2004/03-March/31-Mar-2004/FBO-00556178.htm

 

1) Semi-automatic firing system;

2) Capable of firing either 9mm, 45 ACP, or .40 S&W;

3) Rail system integral to forward lower frame;

4) Magazine capacity 12 rounds for 45 ACP, 15 rounds for 9mm, 10 rounds for .40 S&W;

5) Weight not to exceed 40 ounces.


October 1, 2004 - Future Handgun System (Sources Sought notice from US Army ARDEC)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2004/10-October/03-Oct-2004/FBO-00687867.htm

 

The FHS will provide increases in terminal ballistic potential, durability, and reliability over the currently fielded M9/9x19mm and M11/9x19mm pistols. Specific features and characteristics of the FHS will include, but are not limited to, an integral accessory rail, enhanced day/night sighting capability, configurable grips (to suit the individual soldier's need), and will permit the use of a sound suppressor when the threat/mission requires. The FHS will use munitions that are optimized for Army full-spectrum contingencies/applications. The FHS will also have a suitable, multi-configurable, holster(s) and ammunition carrier(s).


January 14, 2005 - SOF Combat Pistol (Sources Sought notice from NSWC-Crane)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2005/01-January/16-Jan-2005/FBO-00735432.htm

 

3.1 SOF Combat Pistol System Definition. The Combat Pistol system shall include a caliber .45 pistol, 2 standard magazines, 4 high-capacity magazines, holster, cleaning kit, operator manual, and illuminator module (T). Available system accessories shall also include a threaded barrel for suppressor attachment, (T), suppressor (T), and a Laser Aiming Module (LAM) (O). The Combat Pistol should have a force-on-force training module that uses a non-lethal marking ammunition round that does not significantly or permanently injure operators when fired during force-on-force training (O).

 

3.2 Performance Requirements:

 

3.2.1 Reliability. The Combat Pistol shall have a Mean Rounds Between Stoppage (MRBS) of 2000 rounds (T) and 5000 rounds (O) firing A475, A483, and AA18 ammunition (T). The Combat Pistol shall have a MRBS of 500 rounds (T) 1000 rounds (O) with suppressor attached, firing A475, A483, and AA18 ammunition (T). The Combat Pistol shall have a Mean Rounds Between Failure (MRBF) of 5000 rounds (T) and 10,000 rounds (O) firing 95% A475 and A483 ammunition and 5% AA18 ammunition (T). The Combat Pistol shall have a Mean Rounds Between Failure (MRBF) of 1000 rounds (T), 2,000 rounds (O), with suppressor attached, firing 95% A475 and A483 ammunition and 5% AA18 ammunition (T). The weapon shall maintain the reliability standard when operated in extreme environments such as Over the Beach (OTB), jungle, and desert (sand and dust) (T).

 

3.2.2 Accuracy: The Combat Pistol when firing a 5-round group of A475 .45 ACP Ball ammunition shall be accurate to 4.5-inch extreme spread at a range of 25 meters fired from a machine rest (T), less than 4.5-inch extreme spread at a range of 25 meters (O). Accuracy requirement shall be met unsuppressed and suppressed (T). Point of impact shift unsuppressed to suppressed shall be consistent and shall be 3 inches or less at 25m (T).

 

3.2.3 Service Life. The Combat Pistol shall have a service life of 20,000 rounds, (T) greater than 20,000 rounds (O) using A475 .45 ACP Ball and A483 .45 ACP match ammunition (T). The Combat Pistol should be capable of maintaining these service life goals when firing 5% AA18 .45 +P ammunition (O). The firing schedule will be as follows: The weapons will be fired 125 rounds of A475 or A483, then the suppressor will be installed and the weapon fired with 25 rounds of AA18, then fired 100 rounds of A475 or A483. The weapon will be cooled and suppressor removed. Then it will be fired another 250 rounds of A475 or A483. The weapon will be cooled and cleaned per manufacturer’s instructions. The rate of fire for this cycle will be 10-30 rounds per minute. The cycle will be continued until the usable service life of the pistol is determined, or the round count of 20,000 rounds is reached, whichever comes first. If the weapon reaches the 20,000 round thresholds, the weapon, at the Navy’s decision, may be tested further to attain its actual service life. During cycles, test data sheets will be used to record rounds, failures, parts replacement, stoppages, and cleaning schedule. The weapons will be visually inspected at every cleaning cycle. The receiver, barrel, slide, etc… will be Magnetic Particle Inspected using NDI methods every 5000 rounds to check for metal fatigue.


3.3 Physical description:

 

3.3.1 Weight. The Combat Pistol without magazine or attached accessories shall weigh less than 39 ounces (T), 26 ounces (O).

 

3.3.2 Length: The Combat Pistol length with standard barrel shall be less than 8.75 inches (T) less than 7.5 inches (O) measured along the axis of the bore.

 

3.3.3 Width: The Combat Pistol width shall be less than 1.5 inches (T), 1.28 inches (O).

 

3.3.4 Height: The Combat Pistol height shall be less than 5.5 inches (T) 5.3 inches (O).

 

3.3.5 Magazine Capacity. The Combat Pistol shall have a standard magazine capacity of no less than 8 rounds (T), greater than 8 rounds (O) of .45 ACP ammunition. The Combat Pistol shall also have a high-capacity magazine of no less than 10 rounds that will not create a snag hazard when inserted in the magazine well (T).

 

3.3.6 Accessory Rail: The Combat Pistol shall have an integral MIL-STD-1913 rail(s) for the attachment of accessories. (T) The rail shall be located forward of the trigger guard on the lower portion of the frame. (T)

 

3.3.7 Surface Finish. The Combat Pistol surface finish shall be non-reflective, resistant to peeling, flaking, and chipping, and require a minimum of operator preventive maintenance (T). Internal coatings should be lubricious/low friction mitigating the use of lubricants (O). Non-metallic components shall be fungus and battlefield chemical resistant (T).

 

3.3.8 Color: The Combat Pistol and accessories shall be delivered in Color #30118 (Flat, Dark Earth), per FED-STD-595B (O).




August 26, 2005 - Joint Combat Pistol (Pre-Solicitation notice from SOCOM Headquarters Procurement Division - Merges Future Handgun System with SOF Combat Pistol)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2005/08-August/28-Aug-2005/FBO-00881015.htm


 

The Combat Pistol System consists of: a Caliber .45 pistol and its ancillary equipment including: Magazines (standard and high-capacity); Suppressor Attachment Kit for operation of the pistol with and without sound suppressor; Holster; Magazine Holder (standard and high-capacity); Cleaning Kit; and Operator's Manual. The contract type will be an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) issuing Firm-Fixed Price (FFP) delivery orders. The contract period of performance shall be Five (5)years with an option to extend for an additional Five (5) years. The Minimum Quantity is 24 each Engineering Test Units (ETU's), 12 each with external manual safety and 12 each without external manual safety. The estimated Maximum quantities are: 45,000 no external safety JCP configuration and 600,000 JCP with the external safety configuration; 649,000 Holsters; 96,050 Standard Capacity Magazines; 192,099 High Capacity Magazines; 667,000 Magazine Holders; 132,037 Suppressor attachment kits; Provisioning Item Order, Technical Data Package and associated Data.


3.1 JCP Definition. The JCP System shall include:

 

3.1.1 Weapon. A caliber .45 pistol, two [2] standard-capacity magazines, operator’s manual, and cleaning kit.

 

3.1.2 Holster.

 

3.1.3 High Capacity Magazine. Four [4] high-capacity magazines.

 

3.1.4 Magazine Holder.

 

3.2 Performance Requirements:

 

3.2.1 Reliability. The JCP shall have a Mean Rounds Between Stoppage (MRBS) of 2000 rounds (T) and 5000 rounds (O) firing A475 and A483 ammunition. The JCP shall have a Mean Rounds Between Failure (MRBF) of 5000 rounds (T) and 10,000 rounds (O) firing A475 and A483 ammunition. The weapon shall function reliably when operated in extreme environments per section 3.6.

 

3.2.2 Accuracy. When fired from a rest, at a range of 50 meters, the mean radius of a 10-shot group fired from the JCP shall not be greater than A) 3.15 inches or B)1.8 inches over baseline ammunition performance, whichever is less (T). Baseline ammunition performance is defined as the average mean radius plus two sample standard deviations of three 10-shot groups fired from a test barrel at 50m.

 

3.2.3 Service Life. The JCP shall have a service life of 20,000 rounds (T), greater than 20,000 (O), using A475 .45 ACP Ball, and/or A483 .45 ACP match ammunition. The JCP should be capable of a service life of 20,000 rounds when firing 5% AA18 .45 +P ammunition (O). Receiver service life shall be defined as a receiver that is at the end of its usable life cycle.

 

3.3 Physical description.

 

3.3.1 Magazine Capacity. The JCP shall have a standard magazine capacity of no less than eight [8] rounds (T), greater than eight [8] rounds (O) of .45 ACP ammunition. The JCP shall also have a high-capacity magazine of no less than ten [10] rounds (T), fifteen [15] rounds (O), of .45 ACP ammunition.

 

3.3.2 Pistol Lanyard Attachment Point. The JCP shall have a rigid attachment point for a lanyard (T). The JCP lanyard attachment point shall not interfere with the JCP control features or magazine unloading and reloading, and shall minimize snag hazard (T).


 

3.3.3 Accessory Rail. The JCP shall have an integral MIL-STD-1913 rail for the attachment of accessories (T). The rail shall be located forward of the trigger guard on the lower portion of the frame (T).

 

3.3.4 Surface Finish. The JCP surface finish shall be non-reflective, resistant to peeling, flaking, and chipping, and require a minimum of operator preventive maintenance (T). Internal coatings should be lubricious/low friction mitigating the use of lubricants (O). Non-metallic components shall be fungus and battlefield chemical resistant (T). JCP materials and coatings shall protect the pistol from degradation in all climates and geographical areas including maritime, coastal, desert, tropical jungle, arctic, urban areas, and mountain environments (T). The materials and coatings shall minimize the attraction of dust and contamination (T).


 

3.3.5 Color. The JCP frame and JCP holster shall be delivered in Color #30118 (Flat, Dark Earth), Per FED-STD-595B (T). The barrel and slide shall be anti-reflective, matte grey or matte black finish comparable to FED-STD-595B series #36000 or #37000 colors (T).

 

3.3.6 Length. The JCP length, with standard barrel, shall be less than 9.65 inches (T).


 

3.3.7 Width. The JCP width shall be less than 1.53 inches (T).

 


March 10, 2006 - Combat Pistol (Modification notice from SOCOM Headquarters Procurement Division - The US Army drops out of joint procurement)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2006/03-March/12-Mar-2006/FBO-01004554.htm

 

The Combat Pistol System consists of: a Caliber .45 pistol and its ancillary equipment including: Magazines (standard and high-capacity); Suppressor Attachment Kit for operation of the pistol with and without sound suppressor; Holster; Magazine Holder (standard and high-capacity); Cleaning Kit; and Operator's Manual. The contract type will be an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) issuing Firm-Fixed Price (FFP) delivery orders. The contract period of performance shall be five (5) years with an option to extend for an additional five (5) years. The Minimum Quantity is 24/ea Engineering Test Units (ETU's). The estimated maximum quantities are: 50,000/ea combat pistol systems (which includes a .45 caliber CP, 2 standard capacity magazines, operator?s manual and cleaning kit); 50,000/ea Holsters; 200,000/ea Standard Capacity Magazines; 360,000/ea High Capacity Magazines; 50,000/ea Magazine Holders; 15,000/ea Suppressor attachment kits; Provisioning Item Order; associated data; and 3/ea Instructor and Key Personnel (I&KP) Training courses.


September 5, 2006 - Combat Pistol (Modification notice from SOCOM Headquarters Procurement Division - SOCOM drops the Combat Pistol solicitation)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2006/09-September/08-Sep-2006/FBO-01135668.htm


 

October 31, 2006 - Air Force Handgun (Sources Sought notice from Air Force Materiel Command)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2006/11-November/02-Nov-2006/FBO-01173583.htm

 

.45 ACP

April 16, 2007 - Air Force Future Handgun (Sources Sought notice from Air Force Materiel Command)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2007/04-April/18-Apr-2007/FBO-01274260.htm

.45 ACP

April 28, 2008 - Modular Handgun System (Sources Sought notice from US Army TACOM Life Cycle Management Command - Rock Island.  Note that this was actually issued on behalf of the USAF.)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2008/04-April/30-Apr-2008/FBO-01562302.htm

 

USAF requirement is ~ 100,600 pistols and associated ammunition.

System Performance.
 

• System Accuracy. Accuracy will be assessed by two measures:

a) To a range of 50 meters, when the weapon is mounted in a machine rest or manufacturer’s design rest with a human shooter, dispersion will be no greater than a 4” Circular Error of Probability (CEP).

b) When in the hands of a shooter, the weapon must enable the shooter to successfully engage E-type silhouettes and:

1) Hit each target with 2 shots to the upper torso and one to the head within 7 – 10 seconds at 15 meters.

2) Hit the target with 2 shots at 7 meters within 4 seconds.
 

• Projectile characteristics. The Handgun System should enable the shooter to produce a wound channel larger than an M882 projectile when firing standard ball (FMJ, non-expanding) ammunition into ballistic gelatin from a distance of up to 25 meters where the cavity is measured from 0-14 inches deep.
 

• Reliability. The Modular Handgun System shall demonstrate 2,000 Mean Rounds Between Stoppage (MRBS) (operator clearable/correctable stoppages), and 5000 Mean Rounds Between Failures (MRBF) (nonoperator correctable).
 

• Service Life. The Modular Handgun shall have a minimum service life of 25,000 rounds.

System Characteristics.
 

• Ergonomics. The Modular Handgun System must accommodate the 5th to 95th percentile of users. Determination will be made based on width, length, grip circumference, location of controls, ambidextrous controls, etc.
 

• Target Acquisition Enablers. As a minimum, Mil-Std-1913 rails shall be incorporated on the weapon to enable rail mounted accessories to be attached. Integrated aiming /pointed devices are of interest and will also be evaluated.
 

• Physical Dimensions: With sights attached and empty magazine inserted in weapon, the following dimensions are not to be exceeded:

a) The full size version shall be no more than 8.7 inches long, 5.8 inches high, and 1.6 inches wide. Weight shall not exceed 36 ounces.

b) The compact version shall be no larger than 7.5 inches long, 5.8 high, and 1.6 inches wide. Weight shall not exceed 34.5 ounces.
 

• Detection Avoidance: Weapon shall be of a non-reflective neutral color. The MHS shall be operable with sound and flash suppression kit in place.
 

• Safety Mechanisms: As a minimum, the handgun shall have internal safety mechanisms in place such that a loaded cartridge will not fire if the weapon is dropped from a height of 5 feet onto a concrete or other hard surface. The weapon shall also have an external, manually operated safety button/switch operable with one hand.


 

Fiscal Year 2009 - USASOC adopts the Glock 19 as the “Combat Assault Pistol.”

Fiscal Year 2010 - USASOC adopts the Glock 26 as the “Concealed Carry Pistol.”

2010 - To begin filling their Family of Low Visibility Concealable Pistol (LVCP) requirement, SOCOM acquires 2,500 Glock 19 from the Department of Homeland Security.




January 2010 - NSW adopts the HK45CT as the “Combat Assault Pistol.”  This ultimately receives the official designation Mk 24 Mod 0.

January 8, 2013 - Modular Handgun System (Sources Sought notice from Army Contracting Command - New Jersey)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2013/01-January/10-Jan-2013/FBO-02960851.htm

 

1. Performance Improvement: Request information on potential improvements in handgun performance in the areas of accuracy and dispersion out to 50m, terminal performance, modularity, reliability and durability in all environments.

 

* The handgun and ammunition combination should, at a range of 50 meters, have a 90% or better probability of hit on a 4 inch circle when fired from a test fixture. It must maintain this throughout the life of the system. Systems are encouraged to utilize ergonomic and design improvements to minimize the effects of greater recoil energies, reducing the degradation of shooter-in-the-loop dispersion thereby improving the probability of hit.

 

* Modularity includes but is not limited to compatibility with accessory items to include tactical lights, lasers and sound suppressors. There is specific interest in designs that would be adaptable and/or adjustable to provide enhanced ergonomics that ensure 5th percentile female through 95th percentile male military personnel access to controls, such as the safety, magazine release, slide release and all other applicable controls. There is also interest in designs that offer these enhanced ergonomics while providing full ambidextrous controls.

 

* The handgun ammunition's terminal ballistics will be evaluated at ranges of 0-50m, over 0-14 inches of ballistic gelatin, to determine whether it provides more lethality when compared to the current U.S. Military M882 ammunition fired from the M9. Ammunition evaluated will meet international law of war conventions that bound current general purpose military ammunition. The Pistol evaluated must be capable of chamber pressures equal to or greater than SAAMI specification for the given cartridge, with prolonged reliability equal to or greater than the current M9. However, the ability to accommodate higher chamber pressures in excess of 20% over SAAMI spec without degradation of reliability is of specific interest.

 

* Reliability and Durability includes but is not limited to Mean Rounds between Stoppage (MRBS), Mean Rounds Between Failure (MRBF) and Service Life. There is specific interest in designs with ratings of at least 2,000 rounds MRBS, 10,000 rounds MRBF and 35,000 round Service Life.

 

2. Production capacity estimates. Request information on minimum and maximum monthly production rates for a military handgun and associated ammunition as well as the lead times to achieve these production rates. This estimate should consider a US based production facility by the third year of deliveries. This capacity should be above and beyond any current production orders or current sales. If new facilities are planned or required, so state. A list of State and Federal agencies, as well as foreign governments, that have adopted the handgun should also be included.

 

5. Rough Order of Magnitude (ROM) Estimate. Request estimated pricing for the submission based on the following quantities: 250,000 to 550,000 handguns.

 

March 11, 2013 - Modular Handgun System (Modification notice)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2013/03-March/13-Mar-2013/FBO-03008388.htm

 

 

November 7, 2013 - Modular Handgun System (Special Notice - Announcement for  MHS Industry Day)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2013/11-November/09-Nov-2013/FBO-03230164.htm


 

December 3, 2013 - Modular Handgun System (Addendum to the announcement for  MHS Industry Day)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2013/12-December/05-Dec-2013/FBO-03244373.htm


 

December 10, 2013 - Modular Handgun System (Addendum to the announcement for  MHS Industry Day)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2013/12-December/12-Dec-2013/FBO-03249147.htm


 

February 10, 2014 - Modular Handgun System (Questions and Answers from Industry Day #1)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/02-February/12-Feb-2014/FBO-03284954.htm


 

February 12, 2014 - Modular Handgun System (Special Notice - Announcement for  MHS Industry Day #2)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/02-February/14-Feb-2014/FBO-03287839.htm


 

February 27, 2014 - Modular Handgun System (Special Notice - MHS Industry Day #2 postponed)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/03-March/01-Mar-2014/FBO-03298395.htm

 


 

June 10, 2014 - Modular Handgun System (Request for Information)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/06-June/12-Jun-2014/FBO-03391276.htm


 

June 18, 2014 - Modular Handgun System (Special Notice - MHS Industry Day #2 rescheduled)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/06-June/20-Jun-2014/FBO-03399726.htm

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/06-June/20-Jun-2014/FBO-03399727.htm


 

September 9, 2014 - Modular Handgun System (Questions and Answers from Industry Day #2)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/09-September/12-Sep-2014/FBO-03504659.htm


 

September 18, 2014 - Modular Handgun System (Special Notice - Announcement for  MHS Industry Day #3)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/09-September/20-Sep-2014/FBO-03518454.htm


 

September 25, 2014 - Modular Handgun System (Special Notice - MHS solicitation number updated)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/09-September/27-Sep-2014/FBO-03529171.htm


 

September 29, 2014 - Modular Handgun System (Special Notice - Draft Request for Proposal)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/10-October/01-Oct-2014/FBO-03536451.htm

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/10-October/01-Oct-2014/FBO-03536452.htm

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/10-October/01-Oct-2014/FBO-03536526.htm


 

October 23, 2014 - Modular Handgun System (Special Notice - Read Ahead Questions to participants for MHS Industry Day #3)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/10-October/25-Oct-2014/FBO-03557184.htm


 

October 24, 2014 - Modular Handgun System (Follow-up Questions and Answers from Industry Day #2)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/10-October/26-Oct-2014/FBO-03557975.htm


 

November 7, 2014 - Modular Handgun System (Special Notice - Solicitation Response Time)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/11-November/09-Nov-2014/FBO-03569552.htm


 

January 21, 2015 - Modular Handgun System (Special Notice - Release of the Request for Proposal delayed)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2015/01-January/23-Jan-2015/FBO-03621263.htm


 

January 30, 2015 - Modular Handgun System  (Questions and Answers from Industry Day #3)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2015/02-February/01-Feb-2015/FBO-03629843.htm


 

April 1, 2015 - Modular Handgun System  (Additional Questions and Answers from Industry Day #3)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2015/04-April/03-Apr-2015/FBO-03686706.htm

 



 

June 5, 2015 - Modular Handgun System  (Special Notice - Announcement for  MHS Industry Day #4)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2015/06-June/07-Jun-2015/FBO-03755061.htm


 

June 8, 2015 - Modular Handgun System  (Special Notice - Draft Request for Proposal  #2)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2015/06-June/10-Jun-2015/FBO-03756790.htm

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2015/06-June/10-Jun-2015/FBO-03756791.htm


 

July 14, 2015 - XM17 Modular Handgun System (Pre-Solicitation notice)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2015/07-July/16-Jul-2015/FBO-03796996.htm


 

August 28, 2015 - XM17 Modular Handgun System (Request For Proposal issued)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2015/08-August/30-Aug-2015/FBO-03861376.htm

(The RFP for the XM17 can be a little confusing as its sections are out of order with the timeline of events.  Section L covers the initial submission of pistol candidates, and Section M covers the factors behind the downselect to the last three candidates.  However, you then have to hop to Section H to see the award factors for the final winner.  Section C then covers the selected XM17 winner's Production Verification Testing (PVT) and entry to production status.)

 

Maximum Quantities

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| Item Description | Quantity

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| HANDGUN:

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| MHS Production | 550,000

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| Weapon System Component Package - COMPACT | 2

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| COMPACT MHS - First Article Test (FAT) | 1

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| Demonstration Models | 360

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| Cutaway Models | 360

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| MHS Blank Conversion Kit FAT | 2

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| MHS Blank Conversion Kit | 193,500

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| MHS 1041 Cartridge Conversion Kit FAT | 2

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| MHS 1041 Cartridge Conversion Kit | 193,500

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| MHS Suppressor Kit FAT | 2

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| MHS Suppressor Kit | 193,500

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| MHS General Officer Pistol | 9,000

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| AMMUNITION:

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| XM1152 Ball Cartridge FAT | 1

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| XM1152 Ball Cartridge | 80,000,000

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| XM1153 Special Purpose Cartridge FAT | 1

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| XM1153 Special Purpose Cartridge | 20,000,000

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| DDI Cartridge-First Article Test (FAT) | 1

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| DDI Cartridge-Production | 40,000

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| BLANK Cartridge-First Article Test (FAT) | 1

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| BLANK Cartridge-Production | 60,000

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| XM1152 BALL Cartridge-Demonstration Model | 80

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| XM1152 BALL Cartridge-Cutaway Model | 80

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| XM1153 SP Cartridge-Demonstration Model | 80

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| XM1153 SP Cartridge-Cutaway Model | 80

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| EPVAT Barrels | 60

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| Accuracy Barrels XM1152 BALL Cartridge | 60

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| Accuracy Barrels XM1153 SP Cartridge | 60

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| Profile-Alignment Gage-XM1152 Ball Cartridge | 200

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| Profile-Alignment Gage-XM1153 SP Cartridge | 200

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| Spare Parts | 27,500

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The MHS procurement is intended to be an open caliber competition, which means the choice of caliber is left to the discretion of the Offeror. Offerors are permitted to submit up to two (2) proposals configured to the specific caliber it chooses for evaluation. If an Offeror chooses to submit two (2) proposals, their submissions must each be chambered in a different cartridge of the Offeror's choosing. In addition, each proposal must be submitted independently from each other.

 

Each proposal will consist of either a two (2) handgun solution (one full size and one compact), or one (1) handgun solution that meets requirements for both a full size and compact weapon, plus the following ammunition: ball, special purpose, and dummy drilled inert (DDI), as well as, accessories (to include spare parts).

 

Each Offeror will be required to conduct a Contractor Product Instruction/Training Demonstration session to the Government on the hardware and the manuals. The Government will schedule times and dates to conduct the Contractor Product Instruction/Training Demonstration.

 

The Government intends to award up to three (3) Firm Fixed Price (FFP), Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) contracts based on the results of the initial evaluation of the proposal submission by following the evaluation procedure contained in section M of this RFP. The Government will then make a final down-selection to a single contractor by following the evaluation procedures contained in section H of this RFP. The period of performance of the base contract(s) will be ten (10) years for the handgun, accessories and spares and five (5) years for the ammunition.

 

Each contract that is awarded will be issued a delivery order in the base year to meet the minimum guarantee for the contract. The minimum contract guarantee will consist of the weapon system component package (CLIN 0001), as described in the statement of work. The weapon system component package items, which will be due 60 days from receipt of order will be used as part of the down-select evaluation as described in section H of this RFP. The Contractors not selected to provide production units, as a result of the downselect evaluation will have their contracts considered complete with no further obligation required by the Government. All bid sample hardware received from unsuccessful Offerors, with the exception of ammunition, will be returned in an as tested condition. These items will be returned to the respective Offeror per the same address from which it was received.

 

SECTION L - INSTRUCTIONS, CONDITIONS, AND NOTICES TO OFFERORS

L.1 PROPOSAL SUBMISSION

 

L.1.5 Bid Sample and Hardware Submission

Sample hardware shall be representative of the Offerors production processes and quality that can be expected in full rate production units. Offerors hardware submission shall be verified for completeness. If it is determined that a part of the submission is missing the Offeror shall be notified and be given no more than 10 business days to complete the submission. Failure to submit within 10 business days will result in elimination from the competition.

 

NOTE: UID labels shall be applied to the serialized component of the handgun.

 

Interested Offerors must submit thirty-two (32) complete, identical, and functional bid samples of their proposed full size Modular Handgun System, and four (4) compact Modular Handgun System (if applicable). Each bid sample shall consist of the following:

 

L.1.5.1. Handgun: Each Offeror shall provide Modular Handgun System candidate systems (both full size and compact) in accordance with the Modular Handgun System Purchase Description (AR-PD-177). Interested Offerors must submit thirty-two (32) complete, identical, and functional bid samples of their proposed full size Modular Handgun System , and four (4) compact Modular Handgun System (if applicable). If the Offeror is submitting a one (1) gun solution, thirty-six (36) complete, identical, and functional bid samples are required. Single gun proposals will be evaluated against the requirements of both the full size and compact weapons. Standard commercial markings are acceptable for bid samples.

 

L.1.5.2. Removable Magazines: Each Offeror shall provide three (3) removable ammunition magazines per handgun to meet the following requirements. Full size pistols require two (2) Full Size Extended Capacity magazines and one (1) Full Size Standard Capacity. Compact pistols require one (1) Compact Standard Capacity magazine and two (2) standard magazines (as used in the full size handgun). If a single gun solution is proposed, two (2) Full Size Extended Capacity magazines and one (1) Full Size Standard Capacity magazine will be required to be submitted. The total number of magazines required for Bid Sample Testing should be: 200 extended magazines, 220 standard magazines (which includes 120 for the compact) and 60 compact magazines. The magazines shall allow for disassembly without the use of special tools, and shall not require any special tools to load. The term special tool is defined as a unique and/or new tool/device needed by the Soldier for the handguns routine operator-level maintenance, cleaning, and field stripping. For additional information on the magazine requirement, reference the Modular Handgun System Purchase Description (AR-PD-177) Paragraph 3.4.7.

 

L.1.5.3. Holster: Each Offeror shall provide thirty (30) right handed and ten (10) left handed sleeves that are compatible with the Improved Modular Tactical Holster (IMTH) Quick Disconnect (female adapter), PN 430952CT.

 

L.1.5.4 Magazine Pouches: Each Offeror shall provide eighty (80) MOLLE compatible magazine pouches. Each magazine pouch shall securely carry 1 extended magazine, in accordance with TM-10-8465-236-10. The magazine pouches shall have a cover to protect the magazine from environmental conditions, such as sand, dust, mud, etc. The magazine pouch shall have a drain hole. The magazine pouch shall be similar in form, fit and function as the currently issued magazine pouches listed here: NSN 8465-01-524-7361 (Digital ACU) or 8415-01-519-6467 (Olive Drab) or 8415-01-519-5184 (Khaki).

 

L.1.5.5. Cleaning Kit: Each Offeror shall provide one (1) bore brush per handgun. The bore brush for the handgun shall be compatible with the currently issued cleaning rod: Rod, Cleaning, Cal .45, M4 Drawing number 5564102. A drawing for the currently issued cleaning brush tip is included for reference: Tip, Cleaning Brush Drawing number 5238602. These drawings are included as attachments.

 

L.1.5.6. Replacement Barrels and Spare and Repair Parts: Each Offeror shall provide replacement barrels, spare and repair parts, magazines, and spare supplies for the cleaning kits adequate to support the evaluation.

 

NOTE: A sufficient number of replacement barrels, magazines, spare and repair parts as determined by the Offeror, is required to support the following tests. Note that the quantities of ammunition below is a subset of the total quantities required as listed in paragraph L.1.5.11.

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|Test |Number of Guns |Rounds per Gun |Total Rounds |

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|Reliability | 3 | 12,500 | 37,500 |

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|High Temperature | 3 | 3,600 | 10,800 |

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|User Evaluation | 10 | 1,000 | 10,000 |

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ALL HANDGUNS PROVIDED AS PART OF THE PROPOSAL SUBMISSION WILL BE USED IN TESTING. The results of High Temperature testing will be used to support the issuance of a safety release. This test will be conducted as outlined in paragraph 4.7.10.2 of purchase description AR-PD 177. Any weapon that fails to have a safety release issued, will be eliminated from further consideration.

 

L.1.5.7. ...

The Modular Handgun System will be subject to exposure to dye penetrant chemicals during Non Destructive Testing (NDT). Non-Destructive Testing will be performed upon initial inspection, at intervals of 4,000 rounds, and at final inspection. Sufficient spares and mandatory replacement parts (i.e.: roll pins, screws, etc) are to be provided to facilitate disassembly/ reassembly throughout the bid sample testing.

 

Any special tools required to support the Modular Handgun System during the live fire tests shall be supplied by the Offeror. Offerors will not be given the opportunity to provide additional spare and repair parts while testing is being conducted; therefore, all replacement barrels, magazines and spare and repair parts must be provided at the date/time of proposal submission, prior to initiation of testing. There is NO LIMIT to the number of spares that an Offeror can provide nor will an Offeror be negatively rated for providing extra spares. ANY CANDIDATE SYSTEM THAT DOES NOT MEET TEST REQUIREMENTS DUE TO PARTS BREAKAGE AND A LACK OF SPARE AND REPAIR PARTS WILL BE CONSIDERED NON-OPERATOR REPAIRABLE AND WILL BE DOCUMENTED AS A CLASS III FAILURE REGARDLESS OF THE TYPE OF FAILURE. ADDITIONALLY, ANY MODULAR HANDGUN SYSTEM CANDIDATE WHO RECEIVES A CLASS III FAILURE FOR INSUFFICIENT SPARES, WHICH INCLUDES MAGAZINES OR REPLACEMENT BARRELS WILL BE RATED AS UNACCEPTABLE AND WILL BE ELIMINATED FROM FURTHER CONSIDERATION FOR CONTRACT AWARD. Failure definitions can be obtained from Section 4.8.1.3 and 6.7 of the Modular Handgun System Purchase Description (AR-PD-177).

 

L.1.5.8. Ransom Rest Inserts: Each Offeror shall provide two (2) Ransom Rest inserts for use with their full size candidate modular handgun systems. In addition, each Offeror will specify the torque to which the insert fasteners will be tightened for use in accuracy testing. Torque specifications shall be included with the Ransom Rest inserts. Specifications shall be provided in such a manner as to ensure the instructions are not lost during delivery to the Aberdeen Test Center.

 

L.1.5.9. Test/Mann Barrel: Each Offeror shall provide three (3) identical Mann Barrels with internal dimensions identical to that of their Modular Handgun System Candidate. Length of Mann Barrel shall be representative of the Offerors submitted Modular Handgun System Full Size Candidate.

 

L.1.5.10. Suppressor Kit: Each Offeror shall provide three (3) complete suppressor kits for their Full Size Modular Handgun System candidate submissions. A suppressor kit is necessary to allow a standard Modular Handgun System to be operationally capable of firing with the suppressor. This kit must include the suppressor, and may include any of the following, as necessary: a slide with taller sights, threaded barrel, adapters, etc. All components required to enable a suppressor to be attached must be interchangeable at the operator level. The government is verifying that the suppressor kit is functional. The suppressor is only to demonstrate that the weapon can be fired using the requested kit and will not be evaluated.

 

L.1.5.11. Ammunition: Each Offeror will be required to submit sufficient rounds of ammunition to conduct Bid Sample testing. At a minimum, Offerors shall provide 2,000 rounds of Ball, 60,000 rounds of Special Purpose (SP), and fifty (50) Dummy rounds. For additional information, see Purchase Descriptions AR-PD-180 for Ball ammunition, AR-PD-179 for SP ammunition, and AR-PD-184 for Dummy ammunition.


 

M.1 BASIS FOR AWARD

 

M.1.1 The Government intends to make up to three (3) base awards as a result of this RFP. Each contractor will receive an order for the Weapon System Component Package requirements in accordance with CLIN 1001 of the base contract and Statement of Work C.3.1 which will satisfy the minimum quantity guarantee of each of the ID/IQ contract. The Government will select for award the proposals that are most advantageous and represent the best value to the Government using the trade-off method, with the Source Selection Authority (SSA) giving the appropriate consideration to the nine (9) evaluation factors: Bid Sample Test - Technical, Bid Sample Test - Other, Written Technical, License Rights Ammunition, License Rights Handgun and Accessories, Production/Manufacturing, Price, Past Performance, and Small Business Participation. The Government will weigh the relative benefits of each proposal and award will be made based on an integrated assessment of the results of the evaluation. In making the integrated assessment of the evaluation results, the SSA will give due consideration to all of the Factors and Sub-Factors and their relative order of importance. Offerors that receive a final rating of Red/Unacceptable at any Factor/Sub-factor level are ineligible for award.

 

M.1.2 The Government reserves the right to conduct discussions to permit Offerors to revise their proposals.

 

M.1.3 Minimum Acceptability: If an Offeror takes exception to any of the terms and conditions of the solicitation, the offer may not be considered for contract award. All Offerors are urged to ensure that their initial proposals are submitted with the most favorable terms in order to reflect their best possible proposal.

 

M.2 FACTORS AND SUB-FACTORS TO BE EVALUATED:

 

M.2.1 The Government will weigh the relative benefits of each proposal and the SSA will assess the results of the following Factors:

Factor 1: Bid Sample Test - Technical

Factor 2: Bid Sample Test - Other

Factor 3: Written Technical

Factor 4: License Rights Ammunition

Factor 5: License Rights Handgun and Accessories

Factor 6: Production/Manufacturing

Factor 7: Price

Factor 8: Past Performance

Factor 9: Small Business Participation

 

M.2.1.1 Relative order of importance: The Bid Sample Test - Technical factor is more important than the Bid Sample Test Other factor, which is more important than the Written Technical factor, which is more important than the License Rights Ammunition factor, which is much more important than the License Rights - Handgun and Accessories factor, which is more important than the Production/Manufacturing factor, which is more important than the Price factor, which in turn is more important than the Past Performance factor, which is more important than the Small Business Participation factor. The combination of all factors other than Price is significantly more important than Price.

 

M.2.2 Factor 1, the Bid Sample Test - Technical factor has four (4) sub-factors which are listed below:

Sub-Factor 1 Initial Reliability Full Size (includes single gun candidate)

Sub-Factor 2 System Accuracy Isolated (no soldier in the loop)

Sub-Factor 3 Characteristics of the Projectile

Sub-Factor 4 Joint Warfighter Ergonomics

M.2.2.1 Relative order of importance: Of the four (4) Technical Sub-Factors, the Initial Reliability sub-factor and the System Accuracy Isolated sub-factor, are equally important and are each more important than the Characteristics of the Projectile sub-factor, which is more important than the Joint Warfighter Ergonomics sub-factor.

 

Note: If at any point during Government testing, a safety issue is identified with a Modular Handgun System Candidate, the Government reserves the right to discontinue testing and eliminate the candidate from further consideration for award.

 

M.2.3 Factor 2, the Bid Sample Test - Other factor has two (2) sub-factors which are listed below:

Sub-Factor 1 Early Warfighter Acceptance

Sub-Factor 2 Initial Reliability - Compact Function (or single gun candidate)

M.2.3.1 Relative order of importance: Of the two (2) Sub-Factors, the Early Warfighter Acceptance sub-factor is more important than the Initial Reliability Compact Function sub-factor.

 

M.2.4 Factor 3, Written Technical has no sub-factors

 

M.2.5 Factor 4, License Rights - Ammunition has no sub-factors

 

M.2.6 Factor 5, License Rights Handgun and Accessories has two sub-factors:

Sub-Factor 1 Handgun

Sub-Factor 2 Accessories

M.2.6.1 Of the two (2) License Rights sub-factors, the Handgun sub-factor is significantly more important than the Accessories subfactor.

 

M.2.7 Factor 6, Production/Manufacturing has four (4) sub-factors which are listed below:

Sub-Factor 1 Ammunition Production/Manufacturing Plan

Sub-Factor 2 Handgun Production/Manufacturing Plan

Sub-Factor 3 Program Management Plan

Sub-Factor 4 Quality

M.2.7.1 Of the four (4) Production/Manufacturing sub-factors, the Ammunition production/ manufacturing sub-factor is equally important to the Handgun production/ manufacturing sub-factor which are each more important than the Program Management Plan sub-factor, which is equal to the Quality sub-factor.

 

M.2.8 Factor 7, Price has no sub-factors.

 

M.2.9 Factor 8, Past Performance has no sub-factors.

 

M.2.10 Factor 9, Small Business Participation has no sub-factors.


M.3.1.3 Upon receipt of hardware submission, inspections will be conducted to ensure that the Modular Handgun System candidate has an integrated rail, an external safety mechanism, adjustability for ergonomics (by means of grip inserts, grip panels, front or back straps, different triggers, or other means) and be other than single action only. Submissions without these features will not be considered for evaluation.


M.3.2.2.4 Sub-Factor 4: Joint Warfighter Ergonomics The Government will evaluate the capability of the candidate Modular Handgun System to accommodate Warfighters with hand sizes that fall into the range of the 5th to 95th percentile (threshold), and Warfighters with hand sizes that fall into the range of the 1st to 99th percentile shooters (objective). The SME will verify that the user is able, upon properly gripping the handgun with a one-hand grip as specified in FM 3-23.35, to operate the slide release, safety, magazine release, decocker (as applicable) and trigger (complete Double Action and Single Action squeeze, as applicable). Areas of consideration will include adjustability of grip at the operator level and soldier fit. This evaluation will include the need for tools to support the handgun.

 

SECTION H - SPECIAL CONTRACT REQUIREMENTS

Procedure for Down-Selection of the Modular Handgun System (MHS) Candidates After Awards

 

H.5.1 Factors and Sub-Factors to be Evaluated for Down-Select

The criteria for down-select evaluation (DSE) consists of both technical and non-technical factors. These factors are as follows:

Factor 1: System Accuracy Shooter In The Loop

Factor 2: Reliability and Service Life

Factor 3: License Rights Ammunition

Factor 4: License Rights Handgun and Accessories

Factor 5: Other Characteristics

Factor 6: Price

 

The System Accuracy Shooter in the Loop factor and the Reliability and Service Life Factor are equally important, and are more important than the License Rights Ammunition, which is significantly more important than the License Rights Handgun and Accessories, which is significantly more important than the Other Characteristics Factor, which is significantly more important that the Price factor. The combination of all factors other than Price are significantly more important than the Price factor. The Government will weigh any increase in merit rating against any additional price to determine if the parity of the relationship warrants the paying of a higher price for additional merit. However, affordability may become more determinative in the event competing technical ratings are closely grouped and offer comparable value to the Government. The Government reserves the right to down-select to other than the lowest priced Contractor, or to other than the Contractor with the highest technical rating if the Government determines that to do so would result in the best value to the Government. The Government will weigh the relative benefits of each proposal and the SSA will assess the results of the evaluations of each of the factors.

 

H.5.1.1 Factor 1, System Accuracy Shooter- In-The-Loop has no sub-factors

 

H.5.1.2 Factor 2, Reliability and Service Life has two (2) sub-factors which are listed below:

Sub-Factor 1 Reliability

Sub-Factor 2 Service Life

H.5.1.2.1 The relative order of importance for these factor are as follows: the Reliability sub-factor is more important than the Service Life sub-factor.

 

H.5.1.3 Factor 3, License Rights Ammunition has no sub-factors:

 

H.5.1.4 Factor 4, License Rights Handgun and Accessories:

Sub-Factor 1 Handgun

Sub-Factor 2 Accessories

H.5.1.4.1 The relative order of importance for these two sub-factors are as follows: the Handgun LR is significantly more important than the Accessories LR.

 

H.5.1.5 Factor 5, Other Characteristics, has six (6) sub-factors which are listed below:

Sub-Factor 1 Physical Dimensions (Full Size and Compact)

Sub-Factor 2 Material Reliability in Extreme Conditions

Sub-Factor 3 Magazine Characteristics

Sub-Factor 4 Maintainability - Field Level Maintenance

Sub-Factor 5 Ammunition Characteristics

Sub-Factor 6 Joint Concept of Operations (CONOPS)

H.5.1.5.1 The relative order of importance for these factor are as follows: the Physical Dimensions sub-factor is more important than the Material Reliability in Extreme Conditions sub-factor, which is more important than the Magazine Characteristics and Maintainability Field Level Maintenance sub-factors, which are of equal importance, and which are more important than the Ammunition Characteristics sub-factor, and which is more important than the Joint Concept of Operations sub-factor.

 

H.5.1.6 Factor 6, Price has no sub-factors

 

Note: If at any point during the DSE the Government identifies a safety issue with a Modular Handgun System Candidate, the Government reserves the right to discontinue testing and eliminate the candidate from further consideration.


 

SECTION C - DESCRIPTION/SPECIFICATIONS/WORK STATEMENT

STATEMENT OF WORK FOR MODULAR HANDGUN SYSTEM

C.1.0. SCOPE

C.1.1. Objectives

The objective of this statement of work (SOW) is to define the requirements for the production and delivery of the Modular Handgun System (MHS) to the Government in accordance with the Government’s MHS Purchase Descriptions, this SOW, and the associated product and data deliverables. The Contractor shall support and sustain the proposed handgun system to meet the Government’s quantities required for the U.S. Army to test, operate, maintain and sustain the proposed MHS. This SOW is broken out into 4 parts to support handgun and ammunition Production Verification Testing (PVT) / Down-Select and Evaluation (DSE) and Production. The layout is as follows:

 

HANDGUN

Part A - Handgun PVT/DSE

Part B - Handgun Production / Compact PVT

 

AMMUNITION

Part A - Ammunition PVT/DSE

Part B - Ammunition Production

 

C.3.1.1. Weapon System Component Package

The Contractor shall provide one (1) Weapon System Component Package, for PVT, manufactured to satisfy purchase descriptions AR-PD-177.

 

The Weapon System Component Package shall include the following items:

a) Modular Handgun Systems (Qty 100) (Section C.3.1.2)

b) Ammunition Support Package (See Section C.5.1.1)

c) Contractor Support Package - Adequate supply of spare and repair parts, including barrels and cleaning kits, special tools and gages, as necessary, to support all handguns for the duration of the PVT. Failure to provide adequate supply of spare and repair parts will directly affect the results of the testing.

d) Magazines, Standard (Qty 150)

e) Magazines, Extended (Qty 150)

f) Grip Inserts, Ransom Rest (Qty 3)

g) Holster Sleeve, Right Hand (Section 3.1.3) (Qty 30)

h) Holster Sleeve, Left Hand (Section 3.1.3) (Qty 10)

i) MOLLE Compatible Magazine Pouches (Section 3.1.4) (Qty 60)

j) Non-metallic Coupons for Chemical Compatibility Testing (Section C.3.1.6)

k) MIL-STD Manuals (Section C.3.1.11.2)

l) Instructor and Key Personnel Training (Section C.3.1.7.1.2)

m) Logistics Demonstration (Section C.3.1.7.1.3)

n) Technical Data Package (Section C.3.1.11.5)

 

C.3.1.2. Modular Handgun System

Each MHS shall include the following items:

a) Handgun, Full Size (Qty 1)

b) Magazines, standard (Qty 1)

c) Magazines, extended (Qty 2)

d) Bore Brush (Qty 1)

 

C.3.2.1.1. Compact Modular Handgun System Component Package

The Contractor shall provide one (1) Compact MHS Component Package for Compact PVT manufactured to satisfy purchase descriptions AR-PD-177. The Compact MHS Component Package shall include the following items:

a) Compact Modular Handgun Systems (Qty 75) (Section C.3.2.1.3)

b) Ammunition Support Package, Compact (See Section C.5.2.1.2.1)

c) Contractor Support Package - Adequate supply of spare and repair parts, including barrels and cleaning kits, special tools and gages, as necessary, to support all handguns for the duration of the Compact PVT. Failure to provide adequate supply of spare and repair parts will directly affect the results of the testing.

d) Magazines, Compact (Qty 150)

e) Magazines, Standard (Qty 150)

f) Grip Inserts, Ransom Rest (Qty 3)

g) Holster, Compact, Right Hand (Qty 30)

h) Holster, Compact, Left Hand (Qty 20)

i) Magazine Pouches, Compact (Qty 60) (Section 3.2.1.11)

j) Non-metallic Coupons for Chemical Compatibility Testing (Qty 50) (Section C.3.2.1.15)

k) MIL-STD Manuals (Section C.3.2.12)

l) Instructor and Key Personnel Training (Section C.3.2.4.1.5)

m) Technical Data Packages (Section C.3.2.17)

 

C.3.2.1.3 Modular Handgun System, Compact

The Contractor shall deliver the Compact MHS to the Government. The MHS shall satisfy all the requirements of Purchase Description AR-PD-177. Each MHS, as packaged and delivered, shall include the following items:

a) Handgun, Compact (Qty 1)

b) Magazines, Compact (Qty 1)

c) Magazines, Standard (Qty 2)

d) Bore Brush (Qty 1)

 

C.3.2.1.4. Suppressor Kit

If the XM17 MHS is not capable of accepting a suppressor (i.e.: the handgun does not have a threaded barrel, or the sights may be obscured by a suppressor) the Contractor shall supply a kit that could include a threaded barrel, taller sights, or a slide that incorporates higher sights so that the suppressor kit can be installed by the Operator, without the use of tools. The suppressor kit shall include all necessary hardware to fire the MHS suppressed, not including the suppressor. The Government is not purchasing a suppressor with this kit.

 

C.3.2.1.5. Suppressor Kit, Compact

If the Compact MHS is not capable of accepting a suppressor (i.e.: the handgun does not have a threaded barrel, or the sights may be obscured by a suppressor) the Contractor shall supply a kit that could include a threaded barrel, taller sights, or a slide that incorporates higher sights so that the suppressor kit can be installed by the Operator, without the use of tools. The suppressor kit shall include all necessary hardware to fire the Compact MHS suppressed, not including the suppressor. The Government is not purchasing a suppressor with this kit.

 

C.3.2.1.6. Weapon Conversion Kit for the M1041 Cartridge

The Weapon Conversion Kit will consist of all necessary hardware to fire the MHS with M1041 dye marking rounds.

 

C.3.2.1.7. Weapon Conversion Kit, Compact, for the M1041 Cartridge

The Weapon Conversion Kit will consist of all necessary hardware to fire the Compact MHS with M1041 dye marking rounds.

 

C.3.2.1.8. Weapon Conversion Kit for Blank Cartridge

The Weapon Conversion Kit for the Blank Cartridge will be in accordance with AR-PD-177.

 

C.3.2.1.9. Weapon Conversion Kit, Compact, for Blank Cartridge

The Weapon Conversion Kit for the Blank Cartridge will be in accordance with AR-PD-177.

 

C.3.2.3. Non-Firing MHS

C.3.2.3.1. MHS, Full Size

C.3.2.3.1.1 Demonstration Model

C.3.2.3.1.2 Cut-away

 

C.3.2.3.2. MHS, Compact

C.3.2.3.2.1 Demonstration Model

C.3.2.3.2.2 Cut-away

 

C.5.1.1.1 Ammunition

The following ammunition shall be delivered in accordance to the ammunition Purchase Descriptions listed below:

Cartridge Type | Reference Quantity

Ball Cartridge AR-PD-180 | 300,000

Special Purpose Cartridge AR-PD-179 | 255,000

Ball Cartridge (Mil-Pack) AR_PD-180 | 36,000

Special Purpose Cartridge (Mil-Pack) AR-PD-179 | 36,000

Dummy Cartridge AR-PD-184 | 50

 

C.5.1.1.2. Reference Cartridges

The Contractor shall be responsible for obtaining reference cartridges for calibration of test equipment that will be used for PVT. The Contractor may use any commercially available (SAAMI or equivalent) cartridges to qualify reference cartridges.

Cartridge Type | Reference Quantity

Reference Cartridges (Special Purpose) AR-PD-179 | 1,000

Reference Cartridges (Ball) AR-PD-180 | 1,000

 

C.5.2.1. Production Deliverables

C.5.2.1.1. Ammunition

a) Ammunition, Special Purpose. The Contractor shall provide Special Purpose ammunition, in accordance to AR-PD-179.

b) Ammunition, Ball. The Contractor shall provide Ball ammunition, in accordance to AR-PD-180.

c) Ammunition, Blank. The Contractor shall provide Blank Ammunition in accordance to AR-PD-183.

d) Ammunition, Dummy. The Contractor shall provide Dummy Ammunition in accordance to AR-PD-184.

 

C.5.2.1.2. Test Hardware

a) Ammunition Support Package, Compact (Section 5.2.1.2.1)

b) EPVAT Barrels

c) Accuracy Barrels

d) Profile and Alignment Gage

e) Reference Cartridges (Section 5.2.5.18)

 

C.5.2.1.2.1 Ammunition Support Package, Compact

Cartridge Type | Reference Quantity

Special Purpose Cartridge AR-PD-179 | 300,000

Ball Cartridge AR-PD-180 | 300,000

Reference Cartridge, Special Purpose AR-PD-179 | 1,000

Reference Cartridge, Ball AR-PD-180 | 1,000

Dummy Cartridge AR-PD-184 | 50

 



October 8, 2015 - Modular Handgun System (Request For Proposal - Amendment #1)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2015/10-October/10-Oct-2015/FBO-03918476.htm


 

December 4, 2015 - Modular Handgun System (Request For Proposal - Amendment #2)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2015/12-December/06-Dec-2015/FBO-03961464.htm


 

January 7, 2016 - Modular Handgun System (Request For Proposal - Amendment #3)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2016/01-January/09-Jan-2016/FBO-03985691.htm


 

January 15, 2016 - Modular Handgun System (Request For Proposal - Amendment #4)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2016/01-January/17-Jan-2016/FBO-03993797.htm


 

January 25, 2016 - Modular Handgun System (Request For Proposal - Amendment #5)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2016/01-January/27-Jan-2016/FBO-04000191.htm


 

January 26, 2016 - Modular Handgun System (Request For Proposal - Amendment #5)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2016/01-January/28-Jan-2016/FBO-04001492.htm

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2016/01-January/28-Jan-2016/FBO-04001493.htm


 

January 28, 2016 - Modular Handgun System (Request For Proposal - Amendment #6)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2016/01-January/30-Jan-2016/FBO-04003196.htm


 

February 2, 2016 - Modular Handgun System (Request For Proposal - Amendment #7)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2016/02-February/04-Feb-2016/FBO-04007890.htm


 

August 12, 2016 -  Army Modular Tactical Holster (Sources Sought notice from Army Contracting Command - APG Natick)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2016/08-August/14-Aug-2016/FBO-04221811.htm

 

January 19, 2017 - XM17 Award Notice

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=fb3dfb4ce966d2b1b0e017377b27cc1b&_cview=0

 

 

Wrap-Up:

 

Until next week, have fun and SAFE SHOOTING!!!

 

Handgun Radio 157 - Derringers & Other Small Single Shot Pistols

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad  from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, Weerd and I talk Derringers & Other Small Single Shot Pistols!!!

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-I want a Mossberg Shockwave (MSRP 455.00)

-Serbu GB22   https://youtu.be/nyp9YPlaoow https://gastatic.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/gb-22-frame.jpg

Drink Segment: Another simple tastes segment.   The same day I bought the Evan Williams I talked about last week, I picked up a bottle of Olmeca Altos Tequila .

For those who say “I don’t like tequila”,  make sure you have tried something that says “100% blue agave” on the bottle,   this stuff is NIGHT-and-DAY different from Jose Cuervo or similar, but not too much more expensive in price.

Main Topic: Derringers & Other Small Single Shot Pistols

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derringer

Bond Arms

American Derringer

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