Handgun Radio 251 - The LCR & Listener Emails!

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This week, we discuss a few listener emails and why might I choose the Ruger LCR!

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-Made the homemade pizza again in the “wood fired oven” on saturday afternoon. Found that spacing the stone off the grill grates prevented the pizza from burning. Cooked from fresh dough in about 5 minutes at 500 F




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Main Topic: Listener Emails & The LCR

Name: Josh

Subject: Taurus PT 22

Message: I noticed you said you have a Taurus PT 22 and I was wondering out to what distance its accurate for you? I have a club rimfire competition coming up and did know if a PT 22 would suffice. Any thoughts or ideas would be most appreciated.

 

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Handgun Radio 208 - Running The Bull - A Brief History of Taurus

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

 

This week, Weerd and I are joined by Daniel Watters to discuss the history of Taurus!!!

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Ryan: Bought a new splitting maul, chopped some wood, had some friends over last night and enjoyed a fine CAO Italia (Which was delicious; kind of a sweet flavor but with some darker notes on the finish. Paired with a glass of Makers Mark 46) and burned some of the old rotten fence which made for fantastic firestarting wood. Also installed small solar lights on the top of each new fencepost with pipe straps which give some nice accent lighting in the backyard. I need to do an episode live from the backyard sometime!

 

-Rewatched “Executive Decision”.....lots of cool guns in that one!


 

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Daniel:  My car finally died.  Twenty mid-western winters’ worth of road salt ate her up.

 

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Drink Segment: Got a new bottle of Rye Old Overholt  

Also can we get some listener emails on Rum.  I think others know this stuff better than I do.

 

Main Topic: A Brief History of Taurus with Daniel Watters

 

1934:  On July 6th, Presidential Decree No. 24,602 effectively places the Brazilian military in control of domestic arms production.  For the most part, it prohibits the production of military weapons by private companies, permits the production of firearms and ammunition for hunting, and makes no mention of civilian defensive firearms.  
 

1937:  In June, João Kluwe Jr., Ademar Orlando Zanchi, Oscar Henrique Purper, Eugênio Ervin Hausen, Herbert Müller, and João Guilherme Wallig make plans in their small workshop to create a tool and die company. The time is ripe to start a new business in Brazil as President Getúlio Vargas' “Estado Novo” (New State) policies include heavy government investment to develop the country's domestic manufacturing industry.
 

1939: In November, Forjas Taurus Ltda. (Taurus Forge) is formally founded in Porto Alegre, Brazil with an initial capital of Rs$ 600 million.

 

Taurus had initially ordered industrial machinery from Germany. However, these purchases were canceled with the outbreak of the Second World War.  The expansion of the war limits the potential for ordering the necessary production equipment elsewhere. Worse yet, there are no domestic suppliers for the necessary machinery within Brazil.  Left with no alternative, Taurus' owners decide to build their own machines. These are original meant to be used solely in-house, but they soon realize that they could also market these machines to other Brazilian companies.  The war also limits Brazil's supply of crude oil. In response, Taurus builds its own gasification furnaces. As steel becomes equally scarce on the world market, Taurus develops its capabilities for recycling scrap metal.

 

1941: Forjas Taurus produces its first revolver, the Model 38101-SO. The revolver combines elements from several manufacturers, including Colt's, S&W, and certain Spanish brands.  However, small arms are not yet the company's prime focus. (If I had to hazard a guess, the model number translates to  .38 caliber with a 101mm-long barrel.)

 

1945:  With the end of WW2 followed by the forced resignation of President Vargas, new government policies make it easier for Brazilian firms to import industrial machinery.  The world market is filled with the release of wartime surplus and the resumption of commercial production. With their domestic market no longer captive, Forjas Taurus redirects its production focus from industrial machinery to revolvers and hand tools.

 

1949:   On June 27, Forjas Taurus SA is incorporated as a Joint Stock Company.  

 

1951:  With increased demand, Forjas Taurus' manufacture and sales of weapons accelerates.  

 

1956:  Forjas Taurus begins expansion of its existing industrial complex and the construction of a new factory.

 

1964:  Forjas Taurus completes construction of its new factory.

 

March 31 to April 1 – The Brazilian military launches a successful coup against the civilian government.

 

1965: In January, the Brazilian military replaces Decree 24,602 with Decree No. 55,649, which enacts  Regulation R-105 - Regulamento para o Serviço de Fiscalização da Importação, Depósito e Tráfego de Produtos Controlados pelo Ministério da Guerra (Inspection and Control Service Regulation for Importation, Storage, and Shipment of Controlled Products by the War Ministry.)   Any small arms and ammunition imports have to be approved by the Ministry of the Army. Procurement preferences are to be given to domestic arms manufacturers whenever possible. Should a foreign manufacturer wish to open a factory within Brazil, the military is to consider the impact on domestic firms and to lay the groundwork for the eventual nationalization of production.

 

Moreover, the military gains even more control over the production of civilian firearms and ammunition, as well as their distribution and ownership.  Controls are set on the number of firearms held, along with their caliber. While the military will focus upon controlling production and importation, the Civil Police are tasked with monitoring and licensing the transfer of firearms and ammunition among the civilian population.

 

1967:  Admar Orlando Zanchi develops a new hammer block safety for the Taurus revolvers.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US3482348A

 

Forjas Taurus partners with the US import firm Firearms International Corporation to enter the US market.

 

1968:  Exports to US begin in quantity.

  

1970: Jan Winter, the founder and president of Firearms International Corp., sells his company to the Garcia Corporation, another US importer of foreign firearms. Garcia Corp. takes over importation of the Taurus revolvers.

 

Bangor Punta buys a majority share (54%) in Forjas Taurus.  While Bangor Punta had previously purchased Smith & Wesson in 1965, the two firearms manufacturers remained independent companies under Bangor Punta's ownership. S&W itself never owned Taurus, nor did Taurus take over a S&W-built factory. However, during the next seven years, technology and methodology was transferred back and forth.

 

1971:  Taurus' primary US importer becomes International Distributors, Inc.  

 

Beretta establishes Indústria e Comércio Beretta S.A. in São Paulo, Brazil.  At first, their primary product is the PR71 revolver series, made for commercial sale in Italy.  The PR71 series includes the .22 LR Velox, .32 S&W Long Audax, and .38 Special Tenax.  In the years to follow, Beretta will win large contracts to produce the PM12S submachine gun (MtrM M972) and later the Model 92 pistol (M975), for Brazilian military and government agencies.  As part of the terms of the contract, Beretta was required to build these firearms in Brazil with Brazilian labor. Oddly enough, full production of the Beretta 92 actually began in Brazil before it occurred in Beretta's own Italian factory.

 

(While I cannot prove this conclusively, the PR71 revolver look suspiciously like Taurus revolvers of the same vintage.  Given legal requirement to favor domestic arms manufacturers, I'm guessing that Beretta set up its Brazilian affiliate ahead of time in hopes of winning a contract for the PM12S, or perhaps even the AR70 rifle. However, they needed a way to get their new workers up to speed and keep them busy until such a contract was signed. Thus, they partnered with an existing Brazilian firearm manufacturer to provide parts for the local Beretta employees to assemble and finish for export.)

 

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/435371488960639810/

 

https://www.facebook.com/pg/armeria.malentacchi/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1838846129714939

 

https://fahrzeuge.dorotheum.com/en/auctions/current-auctions/list-lots-detail/auktion/12580-sporting-and-vintage-guns/lotID/355/lot/2239335-revolver-taurus-beretta-kal-22-l-r.html?currentPage=14&img=0

 

1974:  International Distributors' Taurus line currently includes two adjustable-sight small-frame revolvers - the Model 74 Sport in .32 S&W Long and the Model 94 Sport in .22 LR; one adjustable-sight medium-frame revolver in .22 LR – the Model 96 Target Scout; and four medium-frame revolvers in .38 Special – the fixed-sight Model 80 Standard and the Model 82 Heavy Barrel, as well as the adjustable-sight Model 84 Sport and Model 86 Target Master.  (In other markets, Forjas Taurus offers fixed-sight variants of the Model 74 and Model 94 known as the Model 71 and Model 93, respectively.  Without the adjustable sights, these are probably unable to qualify for direct US importation under the import point system set in place after the Gun Control Act of 1968 - GCA68.)

 

The Brazilian government implements the National Policy for Export of Military Equipment (Política Nacional de Exportação de Material de Emprego Militar - PNEMEM), a series of incentives for private and state-owned producers to export arms.

 

1977:  Polimetal - Indústria e Comércio de Produtos Metálicos Ltda. buys out Bagnor Punta's entire stake in Forjas Taurus.  The new investor group is led by Dr. Carlos Alberto Peranhos Murgel, Luis Fernando Costa Estima, and Herbert Haupt. Murgel is a US-educated engineer and former S&W employee, and Estima has been with Taurus since 1971.

 

International Distributors begins importation of the .38 Special Model 83, a heavy barrel variant of the Model 84 Sport. These appear to be the first of Taurus' medium-frame revolvers to use a revamped hammer block safety and frame-mounted firing pin.  (In other markets, Model 83 variants included the .22 LR Model 90 and the  .32 S&W Long Model 70.)

 

International Distributors announces a recall of Taurus revolvers due to drop safety issues.  It includes earlier versions of all of the models except for the Model 83.

http://firearmsid.com/recalls/FA_Recalls%205.htm

 

Improved adjustable rear sights begin to appear on the medium-frame revolvers, starting with the Model 86.

 

The cylinder flute serrations are eliminated.

 

1978: International Distributors begins importation of Taurus' two new medium-frame revolver in .357 Magnum - the fixed-sight Model 65 and the adjustable-sight Model 66.  
 

1980:  On June 30th, Forjas Taurus buys the entire assets of Indústria e Comércio Beretta S.A., including the drawings, tooling, and machinery.  This ultimately leads to Taurus' introduction of the PT92, a direct copy of the first-generation Beretta 92.  Taurus also produces a version of the Beretta PM12S as the MT12.  Work begins on developing a straight-blowback variant of the PT92 in .32 ACP, then the largest Brazilian civilian-legal semiauto pistol cartridge.  (Why would Beretta agree to this? Beretta already had the second-generation Model 92S design underway back in Italy, so perhaps it wouldn't hurt to leave the first-generation Model 92 design behind in Brazilian hands. Moreover, it saves them the trouble of shipping all of it back home.)
 

International Distributors begins importation of two fixed-sight small-frame revolvers: the Model 73 in .32 S&W Long (a heavy-barrel Model 71?) and the Model 85 in .38 Special.  The Model 85 is meant to be a direct competitor to the S&W Model 36 Chiefs Special.  It is Taurus' first revolver to use a transfer bar safety. It is also dispenses with the S&W-style trigger rebound slide for a simple guide rod.  In addition, the cylinder is now retained on the yoke by a collet bushing. The bushing snaps into the yoke barrel and is retained by the shaft of the extractor.  This allows Taurus to eliminate the cylinder lug on the side of the frame. The frame redesign also repositions the cylinder stop spring to a plunger protruding from the end of the yoke stem.  This eliminates the spring's retaining screw at the front root of the triggerguard.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US4391056A

https://patents.google.com/patent/US4391057A

 

1981:  International Distributors introduces the PT92 to the US market.

 

In October, Taurus International Manufacturing files for incorporation in Miami, FL.

 

1982:  International Distributors introduces the PT99, an adjustable-sight variant of the PT92.

 

Forjas Taurus introduces the .25 ACP PT51 and .22 Short PT53 semi-auto pistols, which are based upon the Beretta M950B Jetfire and Minx formerly produced at the São Paulo factory.  (These are almost certainly too small to qualify for direct US importation under GCA68.) In addition, two full-size .32 ACP semi-auto pistols are introduced – the PT57S and the PT57TA, based upon the PT92 and PT99 respectively.

 

Forjas Taurus conducts its first IPO, and is listed on the São Paulo Stock Exchange (Bovespa.)

 

1983:  Taurus introduces changes in its medium-frame revolvers.  This includes the extractor, ejector rod, bolt, hammer, and mainspring strut.  (At some point, Taurus also drops the pinned barrel and implements an integral frame seat for the mainspring cap.)

 

Taurus International Manufacturing Inc. takes over importation for the North American market.  Carlos Murgel serves as President/CEO, with Bruce L. Savane serving as Executive Vice President/COO.

 

The US introduction of the PT51 semi-auto pistol is teased, as is its new double-action counterpart - the PT22.  The latter design evolved from the PT55, which itself was based upon the Beretta M20 Bobcat.  (Again, these cannot be imported as-is due to GCA68.)
 

1984: Taurus International introduces its unqualified Lifetime Repair Policy at SHOT Show. This is the brainchild of Bruce Savane.

 

Forjas Taurus introduces the new style reversible magazine release, ambidextrous thumb safety, and firing pin safety with the PT92AF, PT99AF, and PT57AF.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US4539770A

 

1987:  Forjas Taurus introduces the .32 ACP PT57SC, a compact variant of the PT57AF.

 

In December, the .380 ACP becomes an unrestricted caliber for Brazilian citizens due to Army Ordnance No. 1,237.

 

1988:  The PT58S pistol is introduced to the US market.  It is a .380 ACP variant of the .32 ACP PT57SC.  (The full-size version of the PT58S will ultimately become available in other markets as the PT59.)
 

On the revolver side, the Model 669 .357 Magnum is introduced.  It is essentially a Model 66 with a full-length underlug, akin to the S&W L-frame.

 

1989:  The Model 94 revolver is reintroduced with a 9-shot .22 LR cylinder.  It uses the same lockwork and cylinder retention bushing pattern as the Model 85.  A vent-rib variant of the M669 is introduced as the Model 669VR.  (At some point, Forjas Taurus has begun offering a ventilated rib barrel variant of the Model 66 - the Model 67.  Ventilated-rib .38 Special models are also available - the fixed-sight Model 87 and the adjustable sight Model 88.)

 

The PT91AF, a variant of the PT92AF chambered in .41 Action Express, is announced.  In addition, the PT92C Compact and PT91C Compact are teased, as well as conversion slides for their full size counterparts.  (I believe this is around the time that Forjas Taurus produces prototype 10mm and .357 Magnum variants of the PT92 family.)

 

The Model 85-style transfer bar safety, revised lockwork, cylinder retention bushing, and cylinder stop plunger begins its introduction in all legacy medium-frame models.  A new adjustable rear sight design is also introduced across the board for the medium-frame revolvers. The four-screw sideplate is dropped for a three-screw version.
 

1990: Taurus International's new US headquarters opens in Miami, FL with over 30,000 sq. ft. of manufacturing and office space.

 

The PT91AF, a variant of the PT92AF chambered in .41 Action Express, is introduced.

 

Taurus also teams with Laser Aim to offer laser-mounted variants of the PT92 and M669VR.

 

1991: The tri-position safety/decocker system for the PT92 family of pistols is introduced.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US5251394A

https://patents.google.com/patent/US5267407A

 

New products include the PT100 and PT101 - .40 S&W variants of the PT92 and PT99, and the spurless Model 85CH revolver.  The Model 669VR is redesignated as the Model 689.  (In other markets, a .38 Special variant of the Model 689 is available as the Model 889.)  New variants of the small-frame Model 73 and Model 74, as well as the medium-frame Model 76 are now chambered in .32 H&R Magnum, (Note that the Model 76 had been distributed for years in other markets in .32 S&W Long.)

 

The PT92C Compact is finally delivered.

 

Taurus International begins full US production of the PT22 and PT25 semi-auto pistols.  

 

1992: Taurus International introduces four new revolvers: a pair of small-frame revolvers - the 8-shot  Model 941 in .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire and the 6-shot Model 741 in .32 H&R Magnum, as well as a pair of 5-shot medium-frame .44 Specials – the fixed-sight Model 431 and the adjustable-sight Model 441.  

 

In December, the design of the bolt catch and its plunger is revised for the legacy revolvers.

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=BR&NR=9105696A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19930817&DB=&locale=en_EP

 

1993:  Taurus International introduces the 9x19mm single-stack PT908 semi-auto pistol.  Future variants in .40 S&W and .45 ACP are teased.  

https://patents.google.com/patent/USD363334S

 

The .32 H&R Magnum variants of the Model 73 and Model 76 revolvers are redesignated as the Model 731 and Model 761.  Also new are 'CP' ported variants of the Model 66 and Model 669.  

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=BR&NR=9601964A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19990112&DB=&locale=en_EP

 

The Taurus Custom Shop is unveiled.  Former Springfield Custom shop director Jack Weigand is the  primary design consultant.

http://www.jackweigand.com/taurus44.html

 

A Trophy Model competition revolver is teased. Writers samples are made in both PPC and NRA Action Pistol (Bianchi Cup) configurations.  (You can see an example of the Bianchi Cup configuration in the April 2005 issue of Handloader magazine.)

 

The consolidation of Forjas Taurus' pistol and revolver factories in Brazil creates the world's second largest handgun manufacturing facility. Approximately $20 million is invested in new machinery.

 

CCI and Taurus develop and test two new experimental cartridges – the 7mm CCI Rimfire and the .40 Taurus.

https://forum.cartridgecollectors.org/t/7-mm-cci-rimfire/12977?u=danielwatters

https://forum.cartridgecollectors.org/t/40-taurus-variations/5394?u=danielwatters

 

1994: Taurus International introduces their first large-frame revolver – the Model 44 in .44 Magnum.

 

Taurus handgun sales represent approximately 10% of the US market.

 

INMETRO grants Forjas Taurus an ISO 9001 certification for manufacturing and marketing operations.  It becomes the second firearms manufacturer in the world to receive the certification.
 

1995: Taurus International introduces the single-stack PT945, their first .45 ACP semi-auto pistol.  

 

They also introduce two new .357 Magnum revolvers – the small-frame Model 605 and the large-frame, 7-shot Model 607.  (In other markets, there was a .38 Special variant of the Model 607 known as the Model 837.)

 

The .22 LR PT52 semi-auto pistol is teased for the US market.  It has been under development since at least 1988.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US5195226A

https://patents.google.com/patent/US5666754A

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=BR&NR=9100301A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19920908&DB=&locale=en_EP

 

The Brazilian Institute for Nuclear Quality (IBQN) and the RWTÜV (Rheinisch-Westfälischer Technischer Überwachungsverein e.V.) individually grant Forjas Taurus with ISO 9000 certification.

 

1996:  Taurus International introduces the large-frame Model 608, the first factory production eight-shot .357 Magnum revolver.  (In other markets, there is a .38 Special variant of the Model 608 known as the Model 838.)  

 

They also introduce the single-stack PT940 in .40 S&W.

 

1997: Taurus International introduces the Model 454 Raging Bull revolver in .454 Casull.  

 

Two new fixed-sight revolvers are introduced – the 5-shot .44 Special Model 445 and the six-shot .357 Magnum Model 606.  

 

Spurless hammer “CH” variants of the Model 44, Model 445, Model 605, and Model 606 are now offered, as are ported barrel versions of the Model 85, Model 605 and Model 606.

 

The “Ultra-Light” aluminum frame revolver series is introduced with the Model 85UL, Model 94UL, and Model 941UL.

 

On the semi-pistol pistol side, the original single-stack version of the PT940 is dropped in favor of a new double-stack variant.  Related double-stack models include the 9x19mm PT911 (PT915 on global market?) and .380 ACP PT938.  A ported-barrel variant of the PT945 is introduced as the PT945C.  

 

The new polymer frame Millennium pistol series is introduced with the 9x19mm PT111.  

https://patents.google.com/patent/US6256915B1

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=BR&NR=9700178A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19981201&DB=&locale=en_EP

 

In September, Executive Vice President/COO Bruce L. Savane retires from Taurus International.  Taurus' West Coast sales representative Robert G. Morrison is selected as his successor.

 

Taurus International's MIM (Metal Injection Molding) Division is awarded a Grand Prize at the 1997 International Conference on Powder Metallurgy and Particulate Materials. The prize is related to seven  MIM parts designed for use in new Taurus revolvers.

http://www.modernapplicationsnews.com/articles/m003rop.htm

 

Forjas Taurus purchases the patents, designs, and production rights for Rossi small arms.  (The Taurus-Rossi agreement is never submitted to the Administrative Council for Economic Defense (CADE) of the Brazilian Ministry of Justice.)

 

Taurus debuts a new external key lock, the Taurus Security System, for their revolver product line.  

https://patents.google.com/patent/US5910003A

 

1998: Taurus International introduces two new fixed-sight 7-shot revolvers – the .38 Special Model 827 and the .357 Magnum Model 617.  Both are available in CH and CP variants.

 

Products announced or released at the end of year include the PT138 Millennium in .380 ACP, the 8-shot Model 22H Raging Hornet in .22 Hornet, the 6-shot Model 444 Raging Bull in .44 Magnum, the 6-shot Model 45 Raging Bull in .45 Colt, the fixed-sight 5-shot Model 415 in .41 Magnum, and the fixed-sight 5-shot Model 450 in .45 Colt.  The Model 415 and Model 450 are the first to wear the new Ribber Grips.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US5857279A

 

The Model 66 is reintroduced with a 7-shot cylinder.

 

1999: The Total Titanium revolver series is introduced.  The frames, cylinders, and barrel shrouds are constructed completely from Titanium.  Included are the Model 85Ti, Model 415Ti, Model 445Ti, Model 455Ti, Model 617Ti, and Model 731Ti.  There is also the Model 85MULT combining a Aluminum frame with a Titanium barrel shroud and cylinder.

 

The Total Titanium series are the first to use the new yoke detent design to keep the cylinder closed in the frame.   The older system of using a barrel-mounted locking bolt to catch the front of the ejector rod has been dropped in favor a detent plunger in the yoke engaging the frame.  With this change, the front of the ejector rod is now solid (not hollow) with a shorter center pin remaining to lock into the frame at the rear of the cylinder. This has the side benefit of allowing a longer ejector rod within the same barrel length.  Ultimately, all of the legacy revolvers (other the Raging Bull-series) will use this system. (The Raging Bull uses its own twin latch design.)

 

Other introductions include the fixed-sight 7-shot .38 Special Model 817 revolver, a snubnose variant of the Model 827.

 

On the semi-auto side, Taurus introduces the PT140 Millennium in .40 S&W, the PT400 in .400 Cor-Bon (a PT945 variant), the PT957 in .357 SIG (a PT940 variant), and .22 LR conversion units for PT92 family.

 

In March, Taurus International offers to share its Taurus Security System design with Smith & Wesson.

 

Late in the year, the new Tracker revolver series is introduced with the 5-shot Model 425 in .41 Magnum and the 7-shot Model 627 in .357 Magnum.  Both are available in either stainless steel or Titanium models.

 

2000: Taurus International introduces the Model 85CHMULT revolver fitted with a spurless hammer.

 

New in the Millennium-series are the PT111Ti with a Titanium slide, the PT157  in .357 SIG, the PT145  in .45 ACP, and the PT145Ti with a Titanium slide.  

 

A revolver chambered in .40 S&W is teased.

 

The Taurus Security System introduced in the semi-automatic pistol line.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US6438886B1

https://patents.google.com/patent/US6513273B2

 

2001:  Taurus International introduces the 12” barrel, 7-shot Silhouette revolver series, which includes the .22 LR Model 980, the .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire Model 981, and the .357 Magnum Model 66.  

 

The fully concealed hammer 5-shot CIA revolver series is introduced with the .38 Special Model 850 CIA and Model 850Ti CIA, as well as the .357 Magnum Model 650 CIA.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US6862830B2

 

The Tracker revolver series is expanded to include the .22 LR Model 970, the .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire Model 971, and the .357 Magnum Model 627 and Model 627Ti.  

 

The Raging Bull revolver series is expanded to include the Model 480 Raging Bull in .480 Ruger.

 

In March, Taurus International renews its offer to share its Taurus Security System design with Smith & Wesson.

 

In May, Forjas Taurus announces the development of Smart Gun (user proprietary) technology.

 

Later in the year, Taurus International introduces the PT132 Millennium in .32 ACP and the 7-shot Model 617 MULTI  and Model 617 MULTI-C revolvers in .357 Magnum.

 

2002:  Taurus International introduces the Taurus Hex, a new line of .45 ACP ammunition featuring all-copper hollow-point bullets produced by Barnes Bullets.

 

The partially concealed hammer 5-shot Protector revolver series is introduced with the  .38 Special Model 851, Model 851UL, and Model 851ULT, as well as the .357 Magnum Model 651 and Model 651Ti.

 

The Ranging Bull-series is expanded to include the 8-shot .218 Bee Model 218 Raging Bee, the 8-shot .30 Carbine Model 30C Raging Thirty, and the six-shot .41 Magnum Model 416 Raging Bull.

 

The Silhouette revolver series is expanded to include the .17 HMR Model 17 and the .218 Bee Model 217.

 

The Tracker revolver series is expanded to include the .17 HMR Model 17, the .45 ACP Model 455, and the .45 Colt Model 460.  

 

A new style thumb latch is introduced across the entire revolver line.

 

On the semi-auto side, the new .22 LR PT922 is teased.  This is a 6” barrel variant of their existing rimfire conversion on a PT92C frame.

 

2003:  Taurus International introduces the Millennium Pro series of its existing Millennium line and the brand new PT24/7 series in 9x19mm and .40 S&W.  

https://patents.google.com/patent/US7690144B2

 

A completely new version of the .22 LR PT922 is teased.  It almost looks like a polymer frame variant of the earlier PT52.

 

The small-frame 8-shot Model 17C and Model 17UL in .17 HMR are introduced.  (The previous Tracker and Silhouette variants of the Model 17 are 7-shot revolvers built on larger frames.)

 

The 5-shot 9x19mm Model 905 snubnose revolver is introduced.  The 5-shot .40 S&W Model 405 snubnose revolver is teased.

 

Silhouette variants of the .30 Carbine Model 30C and the .454 Casull Model 454 are teased, as is a new forearm support bar.  By the end of the year, the Silhouette series is renamed the Hunter series. (The Silhouette-series was apparently offered for the United Kingdom as the LBR-series, in combination with the forearm support bar.  The extra length of the barrel and support bar allows them to be Section 1 legal.  There also appear to be models made only for the UK like the 6-shot Model 456 in .45 ACP.)

 

A 7-shot .218 Bee Model 218 Tracker is teased.

 

In December, a new Disarmament Statute (Law no. 10.826) is passed and signed into law by Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva.  Among its many provisions, Article 55 allows the Army to prevent importation of foreign small arms chambered for .40 S&W, giving Forjas Taurus an effective monopoly for police agency sales.  Article 55 is described as the "Taurus Amendment" due to lobbying by the company's representatives, including retired Brigadier-General Antônio Roberto Nogueira Terra. From 1995-2001, Terra was head of the Controlled Products Inspection Board (DFPC) of the Ministry of Defense, which approved the import and export of small arms.

 

2004:  Teased semi-automatic pistols include the PT38S in .38 Super, a PT24/7 in .45 ACP, and yet another revision of the .22 LR PT922 is teased.

 

Teased revolvers include a Colt SAA lookalike, the Gaucho, in .45 Colt, a .500 S&W Model 500 Raging Bull, a 6-shot .44 Magnum Model 444MULTI “Hip Carry,” and a .44 Magnum Model 44 Tracker.

 

2005:  New semi-automatic pistols include the PT1911 in .45 ACP, the single-stack PT745 Compact Millennium Pro in .45 ACP, and the PT909 in 9x19mm (basically a PT911 with a full-height frame.)

 

The traditional double-action PT24/7 Pro series is introduced, including Long Slide (PLS) variants.  

 

The Gaucho revolver is introduced in .357 Magnum and .44-40 Winchester.

 

The 6” long/1.75” barrel Instant Backup revolver series is introduced in the 9x19mm Model 905 and the Model 17 as an 8-shot .17 HMR and a 9-shot .17 Hornady Mach2.

 

The .410/2.5” shotshell/.45 Colt/.44-40 Winchester Model 4410 “44 Ten” is introduced in a Tracker variant and teased in a Raging Bull variant.

 

The TRIAD revolver series with a multi-caliber cylinder (9x19mm/.38 Super/.357 Magnum) is teased in Model 85 and Model 627 Tracker variants.

 

In May, the Brazilian Securities and Exchange Commission (CVM) Board completes its 1998 investigation into the allegations of Forjas Taurus shareholders against Polimetal, Carlos Murgel, and Luis Estima.  The latter were accused of siphoning money from Taurus to Polimetal without providing any service in return. However, while Murgel and Estima are absolved of actual criminal violations due to insufficient evidence, the CVM states that they have abused their power of control over Forjas Taurus and are engaging in management irregularities. Both are fined R$ 320,018.62 apiece.

 

Forjas Taurus President/CEO Carlos Murgel dies in September.  Chairman of the Board Luis Estima takes over as company president.  Bob Morrison becomes President/CEO of Taurus International.

 

2006: The PT24/7 Pro is teased in .45 GAP.  Compact variants are made available in 9x19mm and .40 S&W.  Full-size and compact models with a Titanium slide are offered in 9x19mm.

 

The PT1911 is teased in 9x19mm, .38 Super, and .40 S&W, as well as a  CCO-sized PT1911 Compact in .45 ACP.

 

The PT58HC is introduced, which is basically a compact PT58 slide on a full-height PT59 frame.

 

New revolvers include the .460 S&W Magnum Model 465 Raging Bull.  

 

The Model 4410 Tracker renamed the “Forty-Five/.410.”

 

A 10mm revolver is teased in conventional and Tracker formats.

 

The Taurus Tactical division formed.

 

2007:  Modifications to existing pistols include the PT24/7 OSS variants with an ambidextrous safety/decocker and PT1911 with a Picatinny Rail frame.

 

The Model 4410 is officially redesignated the Model 4510 Judge.  Bob Morrison claims that the new name was derived from the interest shown by local judges in carrying the firearm in their courtroom.

 

A 7-shot .223 Remington Model 223 Raging Bull is teased.

 

2008: The hammer-fired, traditional double-action, polymer-frame PT800-series is introduced.  It includes the 9x19mm PT809, the .40 S&W PT840, and the .45 ACP PT845.  Bob Morrison teases the possibility of a 10mm Model 810.

 

The 9x19mm PT917 is introduced, which is roughly a PT92C slide on a finger-grooved, full-height PT92 frame.  (Eventually the finger grooved frame will be dropped.)

 

The PT1911 is now offered with Aluminum frames.

 

New revolvers include the 6-shot .38 Special Model 856 available in steel and “Hy-Lite” Magnesium frames, Judge Magnum models chambered for the .410/3” shotshell, and an UltraLite Judge.

 

Teased revolvers include the Model 590 Tracker for the recently revived 5mm Remington Rimfire Magnum and the Model 327 for the newly introduced .327 Federal Magnum.

 

2009:  The PT700-series is expanded to include two new variant lines.  The “Slim” variants (9x19mm PT709 and PT709Ti) are striker-fired, traditional double-action, single-stack polymer-frame models.  The smaller “TCP” (Taurus Compact Pistol) variants are the .380 ACP PT738 and PT738Ti, which are hammer-fired, DAO, single-stack polymer-frame models.

 

The new .45 ACP PT2045 is introduced.

 

The PT24/7 Pro LS is offered in .38 Super, and the PT24/7 Pro Compact is available in .45 ACP.

 

The 9x19mm PT609Ti Pro is introduced to the US market.  (The PT600-series has been available on the world market since at least 2006, including 9x19mm PT609 and .40 S&W PT640.  The PT600-series are Millennium variants built off of the larger Picatinny Rail frames of the PT145.  The larger frame allows use of the higher capacity PT24/7C magazine tubes.)

 

Polymer-frame “Poly” versions of the PT22 and PT25 are introduced.

 

The PT1911 is reintroduced in 9x19mm and .38 Super, and the new widebody PT1911HC 12-shot .45 ACP is announced.

 

New Judge-series revolvers include ported, accessory rail variants of the Model 4510TKR and the reduced profile Model 4510PD and Model 4510PD-Ti “Public Defender.”

 

Nine-shot Tracker models are offered with the .22 LR Model 990, .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire Model 991, and 5mm Remington Rimfire Magnum Model 590.

 

Forjas Taurus introduces the PT100P and PT101P “Plus” variants equipped with a new frame offering a Picatinny Rail and finger-grooves.   The Plus-series somehow manage to squeeze another five rounds into the magazine. (It appears to use a slightly fatter frame and magazine.)  

 

The PT638 in .380 ACP is also introduced.

 

2010:  The PT24/7 G2-series is introduced with Full-size, Long Slide and Compact variants in either TDA, DAO, or SAO configurations.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8925232B2

 

PT800-series Compact variants are introduced, including the 9x19mm PT809C, the .40 S&W PT840C, and the .357 SIG PT857C.  Rounding out the PT800-series are the .22 LR PT822 and PT822LS models, as well as conversion units for existing centerfire PT800-series pistols.

 

The PT700 Thin-series is expanded to include the .40 S&W PT740 and the .380 ACP PT708.

 

New Judge-series models include the Model 4510PD-UL Public Defender UltraLite and the Model 4510PLY Public Defender Polymer.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8826578

https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2011085457A1

 

The Raging Judge models are finally introduced with the 6-shot .410/3” shotshell/.454 Casull Model 513 Raging Judge Magnum and the 7-shot .410/2.5” shotshell/.45 Colt Model 513UL Raging Judge UltraLite.

 

The Model 85PLY Protector Polymer is also introduced.

 

The sole surviving founder of Polimetal, Luis Estima, announces his intent to step down as Forjas Taurus' president/CEO within.  However, he intends to remain as Chairman of the Board of Directors. Estima's transition is part of the terms for Taurus' pending membership in Bovespa's “New Market.”  Estima currently holds 94.1% of Taurus' voting shares and 31.4% of the total capital. Bovespa's rules demand the conversion of all capital shares to common shares with voting rights. The company has also raised R$ 100 million via unsecured bonds.

 

2011:  The metal/polymer frame PT2011-series is introduced, including the PT2011H “DT Hybrid” (9x19mm and .40 S&W) and the PT2011 “DT Integral” (.380 ACP, 9x19mm, and .40 S&W.)

 

The PT700 G2 Slim-series is introduced with the 9x19mm PT709G2 and the .40 S&W PT740G2.

 

Other new semi-automatic pistol variants include the .380 ACP PT638 Pro Compact and the .32 ACP PT732 TCP.
 

New revolver variants include the .44 Special Model 445UL, the .40 S&W Model 405, and the .357 Magnum Model 605PLY Protector Polymer and Model 605PLY-DT (the latter has a reversed Colt-style cylinder rotation.)

 

The Instant Backup-series is revived with .380 ACP Model 380IB Mini Revolver.

 

The Model 992 Tracker is introduced featuring a pair of quick-change cylinders for the .22 LR and the .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire.

 

The Model 528 Raging Judge XXVIII in 28 Gauge shotshell is teased.

 

Bob Morrison retires as Taurus International's President/CEO.  Morrison selects Mark Kresser as his successor.

 

Forjas Taurus takes on R$ 165 million in debt from its parent company Polimetal.  This raises Taurus's debt from R$ 183.3 million to R$ 348.3 million. Part of the debt is blamed upon the loans that Polimetal first took out in 1977 to buy out Bangor Puntas' interest in Taurus, followed subsequent loans Luis Estima took out in the early 1990s and in 2005 to buy out the shares formerly owned by his two late partners Herbert Haupt and Carlos Murgel.  In return, Estima is to step down as company president and will transfer more than half of the company's common shares to other shareholders, leaving him with only 43.8% remaining.

 

2012:  In January, Forjas Taurus purchases  Steelinject, another Brazilian MIM manufacturer.

 

In April, Taurus International buys Heritage Manufacturing, Inc. In September, the Heritage plant is relocated from Opa Locka, FL to the Taurus plant in Miami.

 

Brazilian laws regarding foreign investment in domestic factories is loosened.

 

2013:  The Millenium G2-series is introduced in 9x19mm and .40 S&W.  

 

In January, Taurus Holdings enters into an Agreement for Exclusive Global Distribution with Diamondback Firearms LLC.
 

The Steelinject plant in Caxias do Sul is relocated to Forjas Taurus' São Leopoldo plant.

 

The Rossi long arms production line is also relocated to the São Leopoldo plant.  Plans are prepared to eventually move all of Forjas Taurus' firearm production from the Porto Alegre plant to the São Leopoldo plant.

 

The São Paulo State Military Police (PMSP) recall all 98,000 Taurus PT24/7 DS pistols in their inventory.  It had been discovered that some of the pistols could be fired without the trigger being pulled, even with the manual safety engaged.

 

In December, the Brazilian Ministry of Defense certifies Forjas Taurus as a Strategic Defense Company.  This qualifies Taurus for future domestic military contracts.

 

2014:  The Model 85VTA View revolver is introduced.  It is later replaced by a “No View” variant, with the clear polymer sideplate replaced with a conventional metal substitute.

 

In July, the Brazilian ammunition manufacturer Companhia Brasileira de Cartuchos (CBC) buys out Chairman Luis Estima's remaining Forjas Taurus stock.  Combined with earlier stock purchases, this makes CBC the majority owner of Forjas Taurus. (Estima was already in hot water over using Estimapar's (a family-owned holding company) voting rights to block a shareholder investigation into the questionable sale of Taurus's Máquinas Ferramenta  (machine tool) division in 2012/2013 to hide an equally questionable loan made in 2004 leading to the acquisition of Wotan Máquinas. In November, Estima resigns from the Board of Directors, and a month later, Taurus shareholders agree to file a lawsuit against Estima.)

 

The new owners purge Taurus International's leadership.  Anthony Acitelli replaces Mark Kresser as President/CEO.

 

A patent applied for a two-shot revolver design.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US9316452B2


 

2015:  The PT180CRVL Curve pistol in .380 ACP is introduced.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8720094

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8733008

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8752322B2

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8966799

https://patents.google.com/patent/US9127903

https://patents.google.com/patent/USD687505S1

 

New variants of existing models include the Model 85ULCH revolver with a removable hammer spur.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20180010873A1

 

The PT738WGS is introduced with flip-out 'wings' to assist in racking the slide.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US9239207

https://patents.google.com/patent/US9546843

 

Forjas Taurus confirms its plans to move all of its firearm production from the Porto Alegre plant to the São Leopoldo plant by early 2016.

 

Forjas Taurus introduces the PT838 in .380 ACP in other markets.

 

In May, Taurus International agrees to a $39 million settlement in the Carter v. Taurus class action lawsuit.  Besides the attorney payments of $9 million, $30 million in cash will be set aside to cover payments to owners of the following models - PT111, PT132, PT138, PT140, PT145, PT609, PT640, PT745, and PT24/7 - including the Pro variants.  (The G2 variants are not involved.) The owners may return their pistols for repair or a refund. The refund is ridiculously low, starting at a maximum of $200, but potentially scaling as low as $150 depending upon the number of refunds demanded.  If the pistol cannot be repaired, it will be replaced with a new production equivalent model, such as a Millennium G2. The expectation was that most returned pistols would be replaced as Taurus had not yet developed a fix for the issue. It is estimated that if all of the affected pistols (nearly a million) are returned for replacement, the final cost might be as high as $239 million.

http://web.archive.org/web/20180422185324/http://www.tauruscartersettlement.com/


 

2016:   In July, the Sergipe State Federal Public Prosecutor's Office opens a Public Civil Inquiry to investigate the Brazilian Army's oversight of the quality of small arms and ammunition provided to Brazilian law enforcement agencies.  As mentioned earlier, Brazilian firms like Forjas Taurus and CBC have held a basic monopoly for decades due to the laws passed in the mid-1960s. The inquiry was launched in response to a request from the Sergipe Civil Police's Grupo Especial de Repressão e Busca (GERB) tactical unit to procure non-Brazilian pistols due to their lack of confidence in their issue Taurus PT24/7 PLS pistols.

 

In October, the Federal District Prosecutor's Office opens a Public Civil Inquiry to investigate the use and employment of Taurus' small arms by the Federal District Civil Police; whether it is necessary to replace the Taurus weapons; Taurus' responsibility for the accidents experienced by the DF Civil Police; the relationship of the high prices paid for the Taurus products and the company's monopoly position; and the injury to the public opinion of the DF caused by the acquisition of defective equipment.

 

The State of São Paulo suspends Forjas Taurus' ability to bid on state contracts for two years in response to sanctions issued by the São Paulo Military Police (PMESP.)

 

The Brazilian Army bans the commercial sale of the PT24/7.

 

2017:  The new T-series semi-auto pistols are teased in full-size and compact models in  .380 ACP, 9x19mm, and .40 S&W. These include the hammer-fired TH-series and the striker-fired TS-series. (The TS-series is based on Wilhelm Bubits' BB6 design.)

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20180031341A1

 

The .380 ACP Spectrum-series is teased.  The Spectrum is the first Taurus firearm to be completely designed within the US.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20180112945

 

Forjas Taurus introduces the PT838C in .380 ACP.

 

Work begins between the Brazilian Congress and the Ministry of Defense to amend R105 to loosen the rules on importation of foreign arms and ammunition.

 

In July, the Federal Public Prosecutor's Office in Sergipe issues its findings from its year long investigation.  It includes a extensive list of failures experienced nationwide with firearms from Taurus and IMBEL, as well as ammunition from CBC.  It also accuses the domestic firms of price gouging due to their monopoly position. (Note that the Taurus models listed even include the legacy metal-frame pistols as well as the newer PT800-series, not just the Millennium and 24/7-series  pistols previously recalled in the US.)

 

The prosecutor in charge of the investigation, Lívia Nascimento Tinôco, requests a judicial injunction to prevent domestic sales of the PT24/7 PLS, PT840, PT740, PT640, PT100P, and PT100 pistols (as well as the MT40 SMG and CT30 and CT40 carbines) until quality control is improved.   Taurus is to issue a national recall of these models for repair, replacement, or refund. Moreover, the Brazilian Army is to be restricted from using R105 to prevent the importation of foreign small arms and ammunition. Finally, Tinôco requests that Taurus and the Brazilian Army be fined R$ 45 million in damages.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mpf.mp.br%2Fse%2Fsala-de-imprensa%2Fdocs%2Facp-taurus

 

In response, the 2nd Federal Court orders Taurus to come up with a plan to recall the 10 models within 90 days, but declines to order a stop of domestic sales.  Taurus appeals the ruling, and in November, another court strikes down the recall order.

 

Anthony Acitelli resigns as President/CEO of Taurus International to take a position with Remington Outdoor.  The company's Executive VP/CFO, David Blenker, is tapped as Acitelli's replacement. Blenker has served as company CFO for the last 20 years.

 

2018:  New semi-auto pistols include the 9x19mm G2c-series.

 

The TH9 and TH9c are introduced on the US market.

 

The PT1911 is offered in Commander and Officer ACP size variants.

 

New revolvers include the .44 Magnum Model 44H Raging Hunter and the 7-shot Model 692 with quick-change cylinders for .357 Magnum and 9x19mm.

 

Taurus reduces its Unlimited Lifetime Repair policy to one year for all new firearms models introduced after January 1, 2017.

 

In April, Taurus International announces its official intent to move its US headquarters from Miami, FL to Bainbridge, GA.

 

Something is brewing at Forjas Taurus, with shareholders being asked to voting on changing the company's charter, including renaming the company.  The Board of Directors wants to drop the word “Forjas” as the company stopped providing forgings to third parties in 2014.

 

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Handgun Radio 145 - Mouseguns & "Overrated" Carry Guns

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, Weerd and I discuss mouseguns  & “Overrated” carry guns!

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Week in Review:

Ryan:

-Did a video on the new Ruger LCP II which we will be talking about.

-Picked up the .22 Magnum North American Arms Mini Revolver

-Sighted in a friends daughters .22 Magnum rifle this morning.

Weerd: My daughter had her 3rd Birthday party this weekend,  so after a LOOONG day of cleaning and getting the house ready I NEEDED to hit the range.

I recently got an order from Midway USA they delivered a Beretta 21A magazine,  something for a future project and FOUR Walker Colt nipples….two on backorder...c’mon Midway,  why wouldn’t you have a full set in stock???

Turns out my issues with my Beretta 21A were likely magazine related and it ran like a top.

I also brought out my SKS because I haven’t shot a rifle in ages and I have a ton of 7.62x39.    I was a bit out of shape at the start but by the end my groups were about as good as you could expect from an SKS.

Drink Segment:  Not sure if I did this before, but since Ryan forgot what was in it.

Rye or Bourbon  Rye is traditional, and what I prefer, but bourbon is always awesome.   Then mix it 4-1 with sweet vermouth and a few dashes of angostura bitters.

Main Topic: Mouseguns, Overrated Carry Guns & Hunting Season!

Mouseguns: What is a Mouse gun?

Some define them as really small guns in small calibers, generally .380 Auto or smaller,   but personally I consider any gun that can be easily dropped in a pocket with a holster a “mouse gun”,  this generally means anything that’s the size of a S&W J-Frame or smaller.

North American Arms:

Mini Revolver .22 LR/.22 Magnum (even in .17 HMR)

Sidewinder

Ranger (Top Break)

Others:

Beretta 21A

Beretta Tomcat .32 ACP

Ruger LCP & LCP II

Overrated Carry Guns:

Glock 19

Revolvers

Kel-Tecs

German Handguns, in particular, Walther and HK

The 1911
 

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Handgun Radio 124 - Handguns of TV Shows

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

 

This week, I’m joined by Weerd Beard to discuss the guns used in some of our favorite TV shows!!!

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Week in Review:

Ryan: -I was unexpectedly featured on The Firearm Blog this week! Nathaniel F. wrote up a blog post about my video on the Detonics Pocket 9! Go check it out!

-Got to try some of the CCI Quiet 22 LR ammo going at 710 fps with a 40 grain bullet. It is almost hearing safe.

Weerd: laid up with the flu all week, so I’ve JUST been able to do much of anything.

What I have done, that is remotely gun related is I have a side hobby of lockpicking.   I’m not great, but I’ve been playing with any lock I can find.    When I bought my LCRs I got a pair of padlocks that are Ruger Branded,   I assume they’re for running the shackle through the frame window, since the LCR doesn’t ship with a hard box.

Still these locks are REALLY good for a freebie.   They have a floating plate over the cylinder that prevents drilling (you try to drill out the cylinder and it just spins) but also the cylinder has a bunch of security pins in it that doesn’t make it impossible to pick, but does make it a challenge….very cool given that it’s a free lock.

Drink Segment: Jim Quinn on the Facebook page asked about bourbon and bourbon drinks in light of the NRA Annual Meeting being Held in Kentucky.

For those not in the know, Bourbon is a Whiskey, generally made in Kentucky that is made from a Mash that needs to be at least 51% Corn, and aged in new charred white oak barrels.   Many other spirits don’t require a new barrel so many aged spirits like Scotch, Brandy, and some wines are actually aged in bourbon barrels that have a fresh char added.

So before the early Americans established bourbon, Rye was the most similar whiskey.  Because of this Rye and bourbon are often interchangeable in cocktails (tho Bourbon has a much sweeter, lighter taste, and Rye more dry and spicy, so a drink substitution will have a noticeable difference) .

Some classic Bourbon Cocktails are: The Old Fashioned, The Manhattan, The Whiskey Sour, and I personally will mix a Sazerac with bourbon.

Of course the quintessential Bourbon Cocktail where no substitutions are allowed is the Mint Julep.   This is a VERY simple drink where you muddle mint with some sugar then add your two ounces of bourbon,  shake and strain over crushed ice into a tall glass (a silver Julep glass if you have one).

Never actually had one of these, but I have a Lewis bag, which is a canvas bag used to crush ice, and the canvas keeps the ice cold and dry,  and I’ll have to do it once Mom’s mint comes up.

Main Topic: Handguns of the Small Screen

For this week, we thought we would go for a fun episode discussing some of the guns we see in our favorite TV shows. These can be on Netflix, regular TV or available on DVD, but its always fun to peruse IMFDB and check out what guns they’re using!!!

Mission Impossible

Miami Vice

Law & Order

The Blacklist

Boardwalk Empire

Boston Legal

Magnum P.I.

Jesse Stone

Archer

Wrap-Up:

 

 

Until Next Week, Have Fun and Safe Shooting!!!!!!

 

HGR 094 - Revolvers, Autos & Reloading!

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wilds of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world. This week, Matt & I discuss his new handgun acquisitions, and what its like to reload for competition!

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We are going to skip the week in review because the episode is pretty much!

Main Topic: Revolvers, Autos & Reloading!

Matt! What did you think of the Steyr Handgun!?

Ryan’s Videos From This Past Weekend:

.44 Magnum One-Shot Ruger Redhawk

Sig-Sauer P226 Range Time

Rock Island Armory 1911 .45 ACP Range Trip

Matt’s Latest Firearms Acqusitions:

629-6 3” Trail Boss, unfluted cylinder, Hogue and Ahrends wood grips and lanyard

64-3 4” k frame

15-4 4” combat masterpiece. beautiful gun unfortunately wrong box but for $350 cant complain.

Reloading for Competition:

Reloading is almost a necessary evil when it comes to getting alot of practice in for competition shooting. Matt does more competition than me so he does reload as well, and I reload mainly for fun and practice ammunition.

Why reload for competition?

What factors do you need to consider when reloading for competition?

What are some of your favorite powders for competition loads? I prefer Trail Boss for my practice/fun loads.

What types of bullets should we consider for reloading? Interesting characteristics?

Wrap-Up:

Until next week, have fun & SAFE SHOOTING!!

HGR 077 - Exploring Big Bore Revolvers

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wilds of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, I’m joined by Matt to discuss big-bore revolvers and why we like shooting them!

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Week in Review:

Ryan: -The Glock UAT Trigger review should be out this week! Sorry about the delay, with the holidays I have been backed up with a bunch of stuff.

-It appears that Remington is introducing three “new” pistols at SHOT Show 2015 this year.

Matt:    not much, surgery pretty much took me out for a few weeks. Did get some bonded Ivory grips for the 29 for a sorta Keith clone. I also got some Hogue extreme g10 grips for n frame round butt revo’s. On my 625 pc now. Look and feel great but still need to see how they feel shooting.

Main Topic: Exploring Big-Bore Revolvers

Big-Bore revolvers have been around for years. From humble blackpowder beginnings in 1872 with the .45 Colt, big-bore revolvers have cemented their place in defensive handgun and handgun hunting history. The legendary lawman Frank Hamer was known to carry a .44 Special S&W Triple Lock, and the .45 Colt was long used by the United States military up until the early 1900’s and even a little bit past that on a more limited scale. For this week’s main topic, we will be focusing on the “lower” end of the big-bore revolver world, and will refrain from discussing the massive .50 caliber cartridges. We will focus on the .44 Special, .44 Magnum, .45 Colt, .454 Casull and the new .460 S&W Magnum.

.44 Special -

.44 Magnum -

.45 Colt -

.454 Casull -

.460 S&W Magnum -

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HGR 053 - Auto-Caliber Revolvers & Moon Clips

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wilds of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world. This week, Matt and I discuss the world of moon-clips and auto caliber revolvers, used both for self-defense, plinking & competition. There’s a whole world of revolvers out there chambered for automatic pistol cartridges!

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Week in Review:

Ryan-

  • Did some reloading. Components seem to be showing up much more frequently around here, which is great!
  • Looking to do some more interviews coming up. I’d love to get in touch with the folks from North American Arms and discuss their fine Mini-Revolvers, as well as Bill Wilson to discuss his 1911 work and his new venture into custom Beretta 92 components. Stay tuned!

Matt-

*shot a few idpa matches, finally got back to shooting my wheel guns. way more

            fun. Signed up for Ky Kolonel IDPA match in oct.

       *    went back to the 18th century, shot flintlock Ky rifles for a few days. Great to get

             away from electronics for a bit.

 

Main Topic - Auto-Caliber Revolvers & Moon-Clips

We all know the typical revolver cartridges; .38 Special, .357 Magnum, .44 Special & Magnum, .45 Colt and the rest, but revolvers can be chambered in auto-pistol cartridges too! Back in World War I, the United States entered the conflict, but realized they did not have enough 1911 .45 Automatic pistols to supply the troops. An employee at S&W devised a way to chamber their large 1917 revolver in .45 ACP by using two, stamped sheet steel 3-round moon clips to function as the rims of the rounds. This facilitated proper headspacing and proper ejection of the rounds. Another advantage was the quick loading procedure facilitated by dropping in two moon clips of three rounds each; much faster than loading rounds individually. Colt manufactured a similar gun as the S&W to supply the military with, and the rest is history. Since that time, there have been a plethora of revolvers chambered in automatic pistol cartridges, some more successful than others. We will be discussing some of the advantages & disadvantages, from both a competition & defensive use standpoint. We will also talk about some of the cartridges and guns that were introduced that used the moon-clip system.

Use:

Advantages:

  • Fast reload time
  • Short stubby cartridges load quicker & easier in a revolver.
  • Moonclips keep all rounds together and go in the gun as one unit.
  • No manipulation of knobs or buttons like with a speedloader.

Disadvantages:

  • Moonclips are not the most durable; a bent moonclip can tie up your gun.
  • The guns will sometimes not function well without a moonclip. Headspace issues can arise.

Calibers & Guns:

S&W 625 (.45 ACP): Produced from 1988 to present. A stainless steel revolver

chambered in .45 ACP and .45 Auto-Rim. Used frequently for competition.

S&W 610 (N Frame 10MM): Produced in the heyday of the 10 MM auto round, the S&W

Model 610 was only produced from 1990 to 1992. Had the added advantage of being able

to fire .40 S&W much like .38 Spl shoots in a .357 Magnum.

S&W 646 (L Frame .40 S&W): Originally produced as a Performance Center Model, the

646 was made into a limited run production model in 2000. Only about 300 of the PC

Models were made. Production ceased in 2003.

S&W 547 ( K Frame 9mm w/out use of clips): A fairly rare K-Frame 9mm revolver. It

did not use traditional moon clips, but used small extractor claws that engaged the

ejector groove on the rimless 9mm case. Problems arose with stuck cases since the

claw would not always reliably grab the round.

 S&W 940 (j frame 9mm): Produced from 1993 to 1996, the 940 was your

standard J-Frame chambered in 9mm Para. The Michigan State Police issued them as

backup guns but found the officers were using the moon clips as screwdrivers, bending

the clips which could lock the gun up. The 940 quietly faded from production in 1996.

Ruger SP101 & Security Six (9mm): Ruger’s fantastic small and medium framed

were chambered in 9mm as well for quite some time. Ruger made their own proprietary

moon clips for their guns. The SP-101 is no longer listed in 9mm.

Oddball Chamberings:

9mm Federal (Rimmed 9mm Case): Simply a duplicate of the Federal 9BP round, a

standard pressure 115 grain 9mm JHP at 1100 fps. It is simply a rimmed 9mm round.

.45 Auto-Rim: In an attempt to negate the moon clips, Peters cartridge originally came

up with the .45 Auto-Rim, which is essentially a .45 ACP with a rim. It is produced in

limited numbers today.

New Segment: Obscure Gun We Want

This is a new segment where we pick and link to an obscure gun that we want. This is purely a “if money were no object” exercise, and maybe you (the listeners) will hear about a gun you didn’t know existed and want to buy one too!!!

Ryan: I want a .44 Special Snub Nose revolver with an unfluted cylinder on the L-Frame. Thank you Smith & Wesson!

Matt: Singer 1911. Id like my dads he used in  Korea. He thought it was funny as hell his gun was made by a sewing machine company. Priceless to me but worth thousands to others! 

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Until Next week, Have fun and SAFE SHOOTING!!!!

HGR 049 - What Makes a Good Handgun?

This week, Weer’d Beard and I discuss what makes a handgun a “good” handgun and what things you can look at to choose the most appropriate handgun for your needs!

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Week in Review:

Ryan: - I found a supplier for the Colt 1903 rear and front firing pins! Hopefully I can have those ordered sometime soon!

-Saw a great article on the 9x23 Winchester! I think we are going to do another episode on Odd Cartridges very soon!

WEERD: no real shooting.   Was going to head to the range for Father’s day, but I was too sick.   I have time off this week where I hope to run some .22 through my revolvers to crank out the rust, and hopefully remove the mag disconnect on my M&P9c With a pen spring!

Main Topic: What Makes a “Good” Handgun?

Remember: we are not bashing certain brands or designs; we are just fleshing out why certain firearms are less easy to use or less effective to use in certain circumstances. Not everyone has unlimited training resources, and you must use those resources in the most efficient way possible.

Everyone has a different definition of “good”. It is very subjective. For our discussion, we will be touching upon some of the points that people use to determine whether a handgun is a “good” handgun (and whether or not those ACTUALLY determine that) and what can someone use as a yardstick to measure whether or not they’ve chosen a “good” handgun for themselves! Note, that we are primarily discussing guns that are used for self-defense and therefore need to be trained with and shot a lot. A Webley in .455 is a “good” handgun for the range, but maybe not so much for concealed carry.

What is it Good For?:   A handgun might be VERY versatile like a Springfield Armory 1911, or a Glock 17,   Good for Competition, good for carry, good for plinking, good for Home Defense, ect.

For instance, a S&W M&P 9mm can be customized for hand size, it can be used for home defense. With the right holster, a full sized duty handgun can be used for concealed carry. There are many handguns that do a lot of things pretty well, but can only excel in so many areas before you make sacrifices. See below.

Is it VERY specialized?   Say A STI 2011 in .40 S&W with 20 round magazines, a ultra-light trigger, tungsten internals and a reflex optic and compensator.   Might work OK for home Defense, but really it’s an ideal IPSC Open Class Gun.     Same With a 8” Freedom Arms in .454 Casull with a 4x Teloscopic Scope.    Not really ideal for most aplications, but an AMAZING hunting handgun!

Efficiency:

What is the Gun’s History?:  How long has this design or similar design been around? What is it’s reputation, and history?   Example M1911 pattern, SAA, or S&W Hand Ejector.   Glock’s reputation in the 80s and 90s, vs. Today.

See: Colt 1903 Example. If that gun was introduced today as a “pocket” gun, people would laugh at you. But back in the day, pockets of overcoats were larger, and the whole concept of a small automatic pistol for personal protection was really in its infancy. Something like the Ruger LCP is nearly half the size of a 1903, and fires a more powerful round. Context makes a HUGE difference.

What is the Gun’s Popularity?:  Popular guns will have more holsters, accessories, and parts.   Also popular guns generally have a good selection of ammo that is easy to find.

How Efficiently is It’s Construction and manual of arms?: Does the gun have bizarre parts, numerous parts?  More parts means potential for more breakage or failure.   Is it easy or difficult to field strip?   Does it have an excess of safeties, and are they easy to manipulate?

Ease of Use (sounds similar, but different from Efficiency.):

How easy is the gun to shoot? An Airweight .357 is an awesome pocket gun if you can control it.   Maybe .38 Loads mark the paper better?

Things like slide bite, or narrow grips can add discomfort in shooting or make it hard to have a good firm grip on the gun.

How Easy is the Gun to Deploy for it’s Use(s)?  Is the gun light enough to carry all day every day?   Can you Conceal it well?   The above .454 Hunting revolver is a great gun, but maybe not for hunting Antelope at 300 yards on the plains.

Fun Factor:

Do you LIKE the gun?  I will be the first person to say Glocks are awesome guns, and I recommend them.   Still to me they’re ugly, boxy, and I hate the grip angle.   Nothing wrong with the gun,  but if I had a Glock I’d never shoot it.   Actually LIKING a gun is a huge and personal factor for if a gun is great to you.

Can You Afford To Care and Feed It?  A gun like the Walther PPQ is from all reports a great gun, but magazines tend to be more expensive than comparable guns.   Will your wallet be able to handle buying all the mags you need for the gun?   Will you be able to simply throw a magazine away in the event it runs it’s service life?    In Massachusetts people hang onto their pre-ban magazines like they’re gold,  but how nice are they if the feed lips are worn out, or the floor plate is badly cracked?

Will you shoot the gun regularly?   A .45 ACP 1911 or Glock 21 is pretty awesome,   but a box of even the cheapest .45 ACP isn’t very cheap.    Will you be able to find .38 Super, or 5.7x28mm at your local gun shop or Wal Mart?    You may SAY you’re going to reload that box of Brass, but maybe once that new baby goes to bed the LAST thing you want to do is crank out 500 rounds for your next range trip.

Also you might be able to afford the dirt cheap practice ammo,  but will your gun like it?   Steel case ammo is great for shooting on a budget but a few guns won’t be able to function with it.   Same goes for .22 LR (when you could find it)   maybe that cheap Anguila stuff is awesome, but will your pistol run it, or do you need a specific, and more expensive brand?

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HGR 048 - Hamilton S. Bowen of Bowen Classic Arms

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wilds of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world. This week, we continue our “Masters Series” of handgun gunsmiths and custom gunmakers with a discussion I had with Hamilton S. Bowen, the founder & proprietor of Bowen Classic Arms, located in Tennessee. We discuss his journey into the custom gunmaking business, along with some of his favorite projects and observations of the industry over the years.

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Week in Review:

Ryan-

-Still working on stuff for the network, the Firearms Insider is growing every day so be sure to go check that out and become a contributor if you would like to! Use the contact form at www.firearmsinsider.tv and someone will get in touch with you about that!

  • Mike Emert of Jericho Voice & the FRN is putting together an audio version of the United States Constitution and the Bill of Rights. In the spirit of the upcoming Independence Day, the sales of this audio will benefit the Special Operations Wounded Warrior and the Firearms Radio Network. If you would like to support those organizations, please visit this link and purchase the audio. It should be available by June 11th.

That about wraps up our week in review so we are going to head into the main topic which is a discussion with Hamilton Bowen of Bowen Classic Arms!

Main Topic: Hamilton S. Bowen of Bowen Classic Arms

1.) Mr. Bowen, you are the proprietor of Bowen Classic Arms located in Tennessee. What prompted you to start Bowen Classic Arms?

2.) In your opinion, how has the custom gunmaking business as a whole changed since you founded BCA back in 1980?

3.) Bowen Classic Arms is one of the finest examples of the custom gunmaking business, particularly when it comes to single and double action revolvers. What drove you toward custom revolvers specifically?

4.) I am a fan of strange or non-mainstream calibers, and I recall seeing a .25 ACP S&W J-frame that you built and I loved it! When you are conceptualizing a new project, where do you start? Do many customers have detailed plans for custom projects, or do they just give you certain specifications and let you go to work?

5.) In your experience, what base gun makes the best platform for custom work?

6.) Conversely, what base gun(s) can be problematic when performing custom work?

7.) Over your long career, what have been some of your favorite custom projects?

8.) When you take a range trip, what do you personally like to shoot?

8b.) What would you warn the home gunsmiths against that you have seen?

9.) If you could see one change to the way that the big companies produce firearms, what would it be?

10.) There are a few specific custom jobs I have seen on the BCA website that I would like to inquire about:

a.) I own my father’s S&W Model 19-4 that he carried as a police officer in our town starting in 1981. Seeing the small-bore K-Frame caliber conversions really intrigued me. What made you think of doing something like that with the .256 Winchester?

b.) I did some handgun hunting with a scoped Ruger Redhawk in .44 Magnum last year, and seeing your .50 AE Alpine Redhawk I was amazed! Did you come up with the idea or did a customer order it? I remember hearing about you having .50 AE moonclips made?

c.) I am a huge fan of the M1917 .45 ACP revolvers, and I was blown away by the M1917 Redhawk. How did you ever dream that idea up?

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HGR 031 - Training New Handgunners

HGR 031 - Training New Handgunners

This week, Ryan and special guest Joe discuss from This Week In Guns discuss the different methods of starting new shooters out with handguns, as well as some do’s and don’ts pertaining to training new shooters.

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Week in Review:

Ryan-

  • Did some shooting with the S&W Model 60, had it break on me! The “bolt” which releases the cylinder internally for opening sheared off, so I need to replace that. At least I have my Colt 1903!
  • Did some more videos for the YouTube Channel! Be sure to go check it out! There are some great videos of various handguns being shot, as well as a new video compilation of slow-motion handgun footage that I filmed in 2013.

Joe-

Just getting over the flu, so I’ve been limited in range time, but I did get a few hundred .38spcl rounds loaded this week.

Main Topic: Training New Handgunners

Introducing people to shooting handguns can be a different experience for them if they have only shot long guns before. Likewise, a totally new shooter can be started off on handguns from the very beginning.  This week we are just going to go over some of the things that we feel should be done with a new shooter to ensure that their first handgunning experience is a safe, positive, and rewarding one.

Fireams-

Action Types:

  • Revolvers can be simple for new shooters to operate. There are no safeties to disengage, and it is not complicated to know when the gun is loaded or not.
  • Single action revolvers can offer greater satisfaction to the new shooter with their lighter trigger pulls and oftentimes greater accuracy potential. (over a double-action pull)
  • Semi-automatic pistols often fit hands better than revolvers. The Ruger SR-22 is a prime example of a handgun that fits many hands well.
  • Semi-autos will have more controls than other handguns, so you will need to instruct the shooter in the proper usage of those controls.

Calibers:

  • .22 LR is always the best choice for starting off a new shooter. Particularly if you can use a suppressor. .22 LR will allow them to be accustomed to SOME recoil without being overcome by it. Also, the fairly mild report will not startle the new shooter all that much.
  • A good step up is the 9mm in a semi-automatic, or a .38 Special loaded in a revolver. If you handload, you can make very mild .38 Special loads for practice.

Accessories-

Holsters:

  • Most new shooters will simply pick the gun up and use it at the range, without a holster. I would discourage new shooters from “working from the holster” right off, as that involves having the gun pointed fairly close to yourself. I would rather the new shooter be comfortable with the safety and utilization of the handgun first, before we worry about holstering and carrying.

Hearing Protection:

  • Many people are unaccustomed to the loud report of a gunshot. Most people will be comfortable with just muffs or earplugs, but some people may desire to use earplugs and muffs in combination. As long as they are comfortable, that is fine.

Eye Protection:

  • The 5$ pair of sunglasses you bought at Wal-Mart are NOT safety glasses. You need decent safety glasses that are certified and tested that will deflect fast moving particles and objects from injuring your eyes.

Safety Considerations- 

Muzzle Discipline: Sometimes more difficult with a shorter barrel with someone used to long guns?

Knowing the Safety Rules:

  • ALL guns are ALWAYS loaded. (Call me a safety sally all you want (people have), I don’t want an extra hole in me, and EVERY person who has been “accidentally” shot has been shot by an “unloaded” gun. (i.e. “I thought it was unloaded!”)
  • Always be sure of your target and what is beyond it. Your bullets will do damage some distance away. Know what is beyond what youre shooting at.
  • Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot. Index your finger alongside the frame.
  • Do not point the gun at anything you are not willing to destroy/kill.

Do’s:

  • Do shoot the gun first in front of them to prepare them for the loudness and to show them you won’t whack yourself in the head.
  • Allow the shooter to be comfortable with the handgun.
  • Only load one round the first time they shoot, then load it higher progressively.

Dont’s:

  • Don’t try to be macho and not observe proper safety like wearing hearing or eye protection. Be a good example.
  • Don’t give a person a gun they can’t handle. If they get hurt, they’ll never want to do it again.
  • Don’t be condescending to the new shooter. This is a whole new world to them, but it may be old hat to us. Enjoy helping them along in the learning process.

Wrap-up:

Until next week, have fun and SAFE SHOOTING!

HGR 019 - Wonderful Wheelguns

HGR 019 - Wonderful Wheelguns

In this episode, Ryan discusses why he likes revolvers and some of the really classic designs that still work wonderfully today!

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Week in Review:

  • No luck this week hunting, heard some movement and saw a lot of tracks around our hunting area but no sightings.  Perhaps next weekend!
  • I appeared on Gun Guy Radio Episode 094 this past Saturday night along with Jake and Jared to discuss some cold weather concealed carry considerations! It was a great time and I really enjoyed the discussion. Go check it out at the link above and you can also watch it on YouTube.
  • The Listener Round Table is set to happen on November 24th which is this coming Sunday.  I believe we will be going live right around 9 p.m. EST, as to give our West Coast listeners time to get home from their day :) There will be a link posted on the Handgun Radio FaceBook page. By using that link you can watch the show live as it is happening or you can go back and watch it on YouTube after the show has ended.  I’m really looking forward to it!!!!
  • A Pietta 1851 Navy .44 and a Starter Kit is on it’s way to me for testing & evaluation! I can’t wait to receive it and take it out to the range.  I will be posting a review of the whole kit over at the Firearms Insider once I get a chance to test it out!
  • There are a lot of great shows on the Firearms Radio Network, and the We Like Shooting Podcast is one of the newest on the network! There are a lot of great discussion on that podcast and I really like the roundtable format of the show.  Go over to the link in the show notes and check them out! Leave them a written review on iTunes as well and help them out!

Main Topic: Wonderful Wheelguns

This week, I’d like to take a break from the “technical” how-to style shows we’ve done the past two weeks and have a freewheeling discussion about some of the reasons I like to shoot & carry revolvers, as well as some of the classic revolvers that I like or that are really fine examples of firearms craftsmanship. A lot of this episode will be based on personal opinions, so your milage may vary.

Why do I like revolvers?: To me, revolvers are really elegant handguns. People describe them as simple; simple to use, yes. Simple inside? No. While they may not be excessively complicated, the interaction between parts inside the revolver to accomplish its goal is really an awesome sight to see.  The first time I ever saw a revolver with one of those clear side plates to show the inner workings in action, I was amazed. All the parts that must interact in order to complete something as simple as the double-action trigger stroke is a feat of engineering.

Then there is the finish on the revolver.  Some of the most beautiful metal finishing work I’ve ever seen I have seen on the classic Colt and Smith & Wesson revolvers.  The first time handling a Python revolver from Colt is truly an experience every shooter should have. Colt was known for its superior polishing and bluing skills, and the Python revolver is a fantastic example of this.  Another good one to see in person is the S&W Model 27.  The Model 27, and the earlier Registered Magnum are wonderful examples of mid-1900’s firearms craftsmanship.  The guns are put together perfectly, strong as can be, and they look stunning.  While the finishes you see on revolvers today may be more practical, the finishes on the classic ones blow them out of the water in terms of aesthetics.

Capacity is everything to a lot of people. The revolver doesn’t have a high capacity. Doesn’t this bother you?: When the capacity argument is brought up, I look at several factors that tend to come into play during a defensive shooting.  First, consider the dynamics of a defensive shooting. It is quick, violent and stressful.  Typically occurring at no more than a few yards, the attack and subsequent reaction is typically over in seconds.  The Hollywood-style shootouts that you see in TV and Movies that last 20 plus minutes are just not a realistic depiction of a real-life shooting situation.  When it comes to civilian self-defense and concealed carry, there is rarely an instance where 17 rounds are used.  Note that I said “used” not “was not needed”; you can always use more ammuntion in a gunfight.

You must always look at what your personal situation is as well.  If you live in an area where the crime statistics show that typical attacks involve only one perpetrator, a small & concealable 5-shot revolver might be a good choice for you.  This is my choice. I carry a Smith & Wesson Model 60 .38 Special revolver loaded with 125 grn Speer Gold-Dot Hollowpoints.  I also carry a speedloader in my pocket loaded with the same ammunition.  Given the crime statistics in my area, I feel comfortable with this setup.  Check your area, and choose your setup accordingly.

Do you have any advice concerning revolvers & their use?:

1.) Guys, PLEASE stop telling females who want to buy a gun for personal defense that the best gun for them is a .38 Special snubnose revolver with or without a pink frame. The .38 Special snubnose is NOT a beginners handgun.  For smaller statured shooters, the recoil can be very snappy. Beginning shooters do not need to be scared away from the sport and hobby because they are afraid of pulling the trigger.  I would honestly rather see my wife with a semi-auto .22 LR handgun that she can hit with repeatedly and fast.  9 .22 LR bullets all in the same spot beat a .38 Special that misses any day.

2.) Revolvers are versatile and allow for a wide array of ammunition selection. You can use anything from hollowpoints, to full metal jacket ammuntion and snake shot loads without functioning issues.  As long as the bullet does not extend out the front of the chamber and bind the cylinder, you are good!

3.) The limited capacity of revolvers tends to make shooters more careful in their technique when shooting. The capacity to “spray and pray” with a semi-auto with a large magazine is somewhat limited with a revolver.  I know that I really focus on making shots count a great deal when shooting my revolvers.

Some Favorite Revolvers:

1.) Smith & Wesson Model 60: A Classic snub-nosed revolver in .38 Special.  It was the first ever stainless steel handgun.  The stainless steel brother to the Model 36 or “Chief’s Special”.

2.) Smith & Wesson Model 19: The Model 19 everything a duty revolver should be. Light enough to be portable and comfortable, yet strong enough to handle most of the .357 Magnum loads for duty use. The Model 19 that I own is my dad’s old patrol revolver, and it is the most accurate handgun I have ever fired.  It is a prime example of exemplary craftsmanship.

3.) Colt Official Police: The Colt Official Police in .38 Special was the direct competitor to S&W’s Model 10 or M&P.  The Official Police and Model 10 both had their advantages and disadvantages, but both were superb revolvers and were great examples of firearms craftsmanship.

4.) Colt Python & Diamondback: The Colt Python & Diamondback revolvers were some of Colt’s finest double action revolvers. Chambered in .357 Magnum and .38 Special respectively, the Python is known for having the most beautiful bluing ever seen on a production firearm.  This is rumoured to be a product of many many hours of polishing before being dunked in the hot bluing tank.  No longer in production, these revolvers represent the pinnacle of Colt’s manufacturing prowess.

There are many more classic revolvers out there! What’s your favorite? Email me at ryan@handgunradio.com and I will read them on the roundtable!!

Wrap-up:

Until next time have fun and SAFE SHOOTING!!!

HGR 018 - Buy Used Not Abused

HGR 018 - Buy Used Not Abused

This week Ryan discusses the things to look for when buying a used handgun to make sure you get a quality firearm.

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Week in Review:

  • The Handgun Radio Listener Roundtable has been tentatively scheduled for Saturday, November 23rd. I’ll announce the time as the date gets closer.  I will post the link on the Handgun Radio Facebook page when the roundtable goes live on YouTube. It will also be released as an episode of Handgun Radio.
  • I spent some time out in the woods this past week with the Ruger .44 Magnum Redhawk. Didn’t see any deer yet, but I did do some distance shooting with the .44 on some steel plates.  As most of you know I am usually a Smith & Wesson shooter, and I am used to shooting double-action and single action with those guns. The Ruger trigger is different. It seems harder for me to hit with the Ruger using the gun in single-action. Using the Ruger in double-action, my maximum distance with the gun was roughly 35 to 40 yards with iron sights. In single-action I had a great deal more trouble.
  • Zack Carlson of The Gun Bench and a contributor to Gun Guy Radio and the Firearms Radio Network recently posted an article on his handgun hunting luck using a Glock 20SF in 10mm. He was using 220 grain Hardcast Buffalo Bore ammunition.  Go check it out!
  • Got some great response from the last episode of Handgun Radio.  I hope the stuff that was discussed in the episode in terms of refinishing handguns will be of assistance to you all. If you have any questions about something that wasn’t covered in the episode please feel free to email me at ryan@handgunradio.com

Main Topic: Buy Used Not Abused

Buying a handgun does not have to be a hugely expensive experience! I know I am often floored by the MSRP of some new handguns I see offered and I can’t imagine spending that much money on a handgun unless I was rich! (I wish!) However, just because the new ones cost a lot of money sometimes, doesn’t mean you can’t get a good quality handgun. “Used” should not be a dirty word when it comes to purchasing a handgun! If you know some of the proper ways to check the handgun for aesthetics and function, then you can really find a great used handgun, often for a fraction of its original price. I am not ashamed to admit that I have NEVER purchased a factory-new handgun. All my handguns have been bought used.  This topic will cover some of the ways you can check a Revolver and Semi-Auto pistol for function and to ensure you get a quality used firearm.

Checking Over the Revolver (Single & Double-Action):

  • It should go without saying, but check to ensure the revolver is unloaded. The techniques discussed here may vary slightly from brand to brand, but in general can be applied to the vast majority of revolvers.
  • Give the revolver a good external inspection for scratches, dents, wear and any other unusual things externally.  If the gun has been visibly abused on the outside, then there stands to be a good chance the gun was not taken care of internally as well.
  • Unless the work was done by an established company such as Turnbull Mfg., be wary of any refinished gun.  A gun that is refinished to hide abuse or damage may also be hiding similar surprises internally.
  • Another good indicator when looking at a used handgun is multiple damaged screw heads. One buggered up screw head may be a mistake or a slip of the screwdriver. Multiple damaged screw heads could be indicative of someone who did not know to use the properly fitting screwdriver for that particular screw. Most people who know how to do proper gunsmithing work will always use the proper fitting screwdriver.
  • Look carefully at the sights on the gun, whether fixed or adjustable. Look at the edges on the left or right. If they are bent or damaged, the gun could have been dropped and damaged in a way you may not be able to see with the naked eye.  At best, you may just need to replace the sights.
  • The cylinder should only move VERY slightly fore and aft in the cylinder window. This is called cylinder endshake. Having excessive endshake can cause primer issues, headspace issues and potentially a very dangerous situation in which the cylinder is unlocked. If you are mechanically inclined, excessive endshake can be corrected using the Yoke Endshake Bearings from Brownells. These small shims can be placed inside the cylinder to correct the excessive endshake. Many instructional videos can be found on YouTube regarding this process.
  • The cylinder should not hang up when opening, and the cylinder latch you push with your thumb should operate smoothly as well. Make sure the cylinder crane swings out smoothly when opened and when closing.
  • Some revolvers have fixed ejector rods, others have screw-in ejector rods. Most Ruger double action revolvers use a fixed ejector rod, where the Smith & Wesson revolvers use a screw in ejector rod.  Make sure you pay particular attention to the ejector rod. If it comes unscrewed, it can cause cylinder binding problems (this happened to me with my Model 66). Make sure the ejector rod operates properly by ejecting some snap caps, and make sure it returns to the forward position smoothly and under its own spring power. Place a straight edge underneath the ejector rod perpendicular to the revolver. Spin the ejector rod and check for any wobbling or runout. This can indicate a bent ejector rod, which can cause the cylinder to bind as well.
  • Check the barrel forcing cone, making sure there are no cracks or splits or damage there. The forcing cone is one of the highest-wear areas on a revolver. Damage here can affect accuracy greatly.
  • Check the cylinder stop in the bottom of the cylinder window. It should be undamaged and have sharp,defined edges. Push it down with a small punch and it should spring back up under its own power.
  • Look at the condition of the hand in the back of the cylinder window. It should move upward smoothly and should have sharp, defined edges.  Also look at the ratchet notches on the back of the cylinder, ensuring that they are not excessively worn.
  • Look at the firing pin hole, ensuring that it is not peened in any way from excessive dry firing without snap caps.  Ensure that the hole is properly sized and has defined edges.
  • Check the muzzle crown and ensure it is not damaged, and that the edges are sharp and defined. A damaged muzzle crown can SEVERELY affect accuracy.
  • Finally, load the revolver with snap caps, and check the single-action and double-action timing.  You do this by slowly cocking the revolver six times, ensuring that the cylinder stop snaps up into the corresponding notch in the cylinder just BEFORE the hammer reaches full cock.  To check the double-action timing, pull the trigger slowly through the double-action stroke. The cylinder stop should snap up into the notch just BEFORE the hammer falls.
  • Finally, check the barrel cylinder gap. You can do this using a set of Feeler Gauges. These are strips of metal of varying incremental thicknesses. Using these gauges, you can check the minimum and maximum barrel-cylinder gap and compare these measurements to specifications from the manufacturer to ensure they are within accepted tolerances.  Having excessive barrel-cylinder gap can cause excessive lead spitting, particulate gases escaping on firing and many other unpleasant things. Having too little barrel-cylinder gap can cause the revolver to bind up after just a few shots.

Semi-Auto Pistols:

In terms of semi-auto pistols, you can use most of the techniques discussed above in the revolver section to examine the aesthetics of the handgun. This section will cover mostly mechanical checks to ensure the handgun will function properly and safely.

  • Ensure all the external controls are in their proper place and they function positively. Check whatever safety features and controls are on the gun, and ensure they work & do what they are intended. (Ensure the gun is unloaded, as always.)
  • With the slide closed, press down on the top of the chamber hood (The portion of the barrel that is exposed in the ejection port.  With the slide completely closed, the barrel hood should NOT move at all.  If it doesn’t move, the barrel is locked up properly.  As you slowly retract the slide, the barrel should remain locked and move with the slide for a VERY short distance, and it should then start to drop down and unlock from the slide.  Note that this technique will not work on straight blowback pistols because the barrel is affixed to the frame and does not operate in the same manner as the tilt-locking Browning mechanism.
  • If possible, disassemble the gun so you can inspect the barrel and chamber. Ensure there is no rust in the chamber and that the bore is bright and shiny and the rifling looks clear-cut and well defined.  Any imperfections inside the chamber can cause cases to get stuck upon firing.
  • Examine the slide for cracks or any other small imperfections.  The slide on a semi-auto can be a very high stress part and some cheaper firearms may not have had their slides properly heat-treated.
  • One thing that is often overlooked is ensuring the gun has a magazine with it. Some older, more obscure guns can have very hard to find or expensive magazines.  Magazines for my Colt 1903 can run into the $100 range. Make sure the magazine functions positively and smoothly.  A worn magazine can be the cause of many functioning issues.

If the handgun passes these tests, then it should  be a fairly safe used buy.  Follow your gut though. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. Cross-check online prices for used guns similar to the one you’re looking at to make sure the price you’re paying is in the right ballpark.  Inspect the gun carefully, and if possible test fire it! Many private sellers will let you test-fire the handgun if you just ask (and you seem like you’re ready to close the deal and all you need to do is test-fire it.) Even if you cannot test fire the gun, if it passes the inspection outlined above, you can feel pretty confident the gun will work well for you.

Wrap-Up:

Until next week, thanks for listening and SAFE SHOOTING!!!!

HGR 013 - Hunting With Handguns

HGR 013 - Hunting With Handguns

This week Ryan discusses the handguns and cartridges that can be used for hunting.

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Week In Review:

  • Got a chance to get some trigger time in with several firearms this weekend.  Got to shoot an MP5-SD 9mm, Ruger SR-22 .22 LR with Suppressor, Ruger Redhawk .44 Magnum, Sig-Sauer 516, Sig-Sauer 556, Smith & Wesson M&P 9mm and a few others.  I have posted some videos of my shooting session this weekend and you can view them on my YouTube page.
  • I recently got a new microphone, so you may notice a difference in sound quality. Hopefully this microphone will make the speech a bit clearer for listeners.
  • If you haven’t yet done so, listen to last Thursday’s episode of the Gun Guy Radio Roundtable where Jake, Mike and the new addition to the FRN, Nikki Turpeaux discuss the upcoming Firearms Insider debuting on the 15th of October.  Many of your questions will be answered by watching or listening to the podcast. It is going to be really exciting to have the Firearms Insider Community as a part of FRN and I am really excited to be a small part of it.  Kudos to Jake and everyone else for their hard work in getting it up and running.
  • The Listener FAQ’s episode is coming right up! Be sure to get in any last minute FAQ’s to me via email! I’ve already gotten so many GREAT questions from listeners and I can’t thank you all enough!

Half-Truth Segment:

  • Back from an extended hiatus, the half-truth segment for this week involves the shooting at the U.S. Capitol this past week.
  • I have heard many talk show hosts, commentators, etc. discussing what THEY think the response by Capitol and D.C. Police should have been.  Their ideas have included shooting the tires out, ramming her with their cars to stop her, and using spike strips.
  • While their ideas have some validity in Hollywood, in real life you will RARELY, if ever see a police officer shooting out someones tires in car chase. First, if you puncture a tire at high speed, the risk of an accident is tremendous. You put other innocent lives at risk with such a maneuver.
  • Secondly, hitting small-ish objects from a moving vehicle with a handgun is not an easy task.  As we have seen demonstrated, many departments are not offering their officers the firearms training they need and typically rely on two qualifications sessions a year. The officer may not be as trained as he should and firing a weapon in a crowded area has the potential to injure others rather than the suspect.
  • The half-truth is, that the cops had another choice. These people will say they fully support the police, right up until they stop. Then they criticize.  I have but one point to make: these commentators were not the ones staring down a woman who had already shown herself to be a threat.  Whether or not she had a firearm is irrelevant.  She had already rammed a barricade. Okay, fine. But THEN she proceeded to hit two officers, and then ram her car into another police vehicle, injuring two more officers.  Lest we forget, the vehicle is a potent weapon. She was just as much of a threat as if she had stared down the officers with a loaded firearm.  She chose to initiate this series of events, not the police. Others have suggested the police shouldn’t have fired, as there was a child in the car.  My response is, how in the WORLD would the police have known there was a child in the car.  The police were just as much in the dark as the public was when the news first broke.  They made life and death decisions and they judged the threat presented to them.

Main Topic: Hunting With Handguns

This week, we will be discussing the handguns and cartridges that can be used to handgun hunt.  In order to have some organization, I have divided the categories into what size game you will be hunting, then discussing a few cartridges and guns from each category.

Category #1: Small to Smaller Medium Game:

(Ex: Rabbits, Squirrels, Fox, Coyote.)

  • In this category, the .22 LR and .22 Magnum will be the most often seen cartridges (Perhaps with the exception of coyotes.) There are other rounds, but we are talking small game hunting with a handgun and .22 LR is most prevalent.
  • The Ruger Mark Series of .22 LR handguns are very well suited to small game hunting, offering the versatility of mounting a scope or other attachment.
  • There is some difficulty with disassembly on the Mark Series of handguns, so take that into account if you are a person who does not like cleaning firearms.
  • Another attractive option is the Ruger SR-22 Pistol in .22 LR.  The Ruger SR-22 is a compact, yet accurate and reliable pistol that would be suitable for short to medium range small game hunting. The SR-22 also uses some polymer in its construction, resulting in some significant weight savings.
  • Another great small game option is the Smith & Wesson M&P .22. I have had quite a bit of experience with the M&P .22 and I believe S&W has hit a home run with this pistol.  It offers the controllability and ergonomics of the larger pistols but fires the .22 LR cartridge, making it VERY accurate and also offers provisions to mount a suppressor.
  • If you are more into revolvers, Ruger offers their SP-101 Double Action revolver in .22 LR.  I haven’t had any experience with it, but as with all Ruger products, they are typically top notch.
  • If you are more interested in the single-action variety of revolvers, Ruger offers the classic Single-Six revolver, along with their new Single-Ten revolver, holding 10 shots of .22 LR.
  • If you are pursuing small to medium game such as coyotes, then the Ruger Single-Nine may be more appropriate.  Chambered in .22 Magnum, it offers all the advantages of the Ruger Single-Action revolvers in an appropriately sized caliber.  .22 Magnum ammunition has made great strides in the past several years and has greatly improved performance.
  • Taurus also offers many great firearms in the .22 Magnum/.22 LR variety, most notably the recent introduction of the double-action Taurus Tracker in .22 LR and .22 Magnum with interchangeable cylinders.

Medium to Large Game:

(Ex. Deer, Elk)

  • With game such as Deer or smaller Elk, you want to stick with centerfire calibers of an appropriate size.  
  • In my opinion, for deer, nothing smaller than a .357 Magnum, and for Elk, nothing smaller than a .44 Magnum.  
  • In terms of auto pistol cartridges, the .40 S&W, 10mm Auto, and .45 ACP can be formidable handgun hunting cartridges, provided they are loaded properly. (i.e. with the proper bullet.)
  • From Smith & Wesson, the Model 627 in .357 Magnum would be an attractive choice for hunting where you may not be as concerned about scope mounting.  If you want to step up to the .44 Magnum, one of my top choices from the S&W lineup would be the Model 629 Stealth Hunter. It offers provisions for scope mounting.
  • Ruger also makes many great .357 Magnum & .44 Magnum revolvers, along with Taurus USA.  Be sure to check those out as well.
  • With auto pistols, I would go with a Glock 20 in 10mm Auto.  Mated with a long slide kit from Lone Wolf Distributors, it would be an attractive option for handgun hunting.  The 10mm Auto offers plenty of power for deer and smaller elk.

Dangerous Game:

(Ex. Bears)

  • I am aware that there are smaller varieties of bears, that may not require huge amounts of stopping power.  However, if I was personally dealing with bears, I would want a bit more power than I need just to be sure.
  • With larger dangerous game such as bears, penetration is the key, and expansion of the bullet is secondary.  Bears have large bones and large fat deposits that need to be broken through before the vital organs are reached. Emptying a bunch of hollowpoints that expand and stop in the bears fatty tissue will probably not deliver the quick stop you desire.
  • As discussed before, the 10mm Auto would be an attractive option for bears, especially with the long slide and barrel setup and some heavy, hard-cast bullets.
  • For me, I would pick something in the .454 Casull range.  A heavy loaded .44 Magnum might work well also.
  • In terms of .454 Casull revolvers, Freedom Arms offers some of the finest quality single action revolvers in all the major big bore revolver calibers: .500 Wyoming Express, .475 Linebaugh and others.
  • Ruger also offers their Super Redhawk in .480 Ruger and .454 Casull for those desiring a double action trigger system. Taurus also offers their family of Hunter revolvers in .454 Casull and .44 Magnum.
  • You may have noticed that I haven’t mentioned the .500 S&W Magnum or the .460.  The .500 may not be practical for all shooters, and the .480 and .454, while stout, may be easier controlled by a greater number of people.  The .460 is quite attractive though, and allows you the versatility of chambering not only the .460 S&W Magnum, but the .454 Casull and the .45 Colt (Long Colt).

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Wrap-Up:

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