Handgun Radio 161 - So You Want To Be a Collector...

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad  from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

Brought to you by the Firearms Radio Network

This week, Weerd, Alex & I discuss collecting firearms!!!

Please check out the Patriot Patch Company for their awesome patches and other high quality items! Visit www.patriotpatch.co for more information!

Shop Amazon using our affiliate link www.firearmsradio.tv/amazon

HELP SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO

“HEY WEERD! IF YOU WANTED TO SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO, HOW WOULD YOU DO IT?!”

Head over to http://firearmsradio.tv/pledge/ and click on HGR.

Week in Review:

Ryan: - Gotta go to the range this weekend and try shooting my Sig Sauer P226 and my Steyr. I want to get some more rangetime in with those and with the revolvers that I have too. I haven’t been shooting them much!!!!

Alex:

Weerd:
 

Drink Segment: Since it seems like everybody is sick right now,  I thought I’d take a classic cocktail and add some folk-remedy twists.

So tonight’s drink is a Whiskey Sour.    Like all the sours (ie Daiquiri,  Margarita,  Gimlet ect)  I use 2 parts whiskey, 1 part Lemon Juice, and 0.5 parts simple syrup.

This of course is shaken over ice.

But tonight I’ve made some adjustments that reflect some folk remedies i’ve heard about.   I think we’ve all heard of remedies that involve the whiskey and the lemon.   Lemon of course is very high in vitamin C which is good for you.   The whiskey part dates back to the times when the only “Medicine” available was “patent medicine” (which in the old days was simply snake oil),  Distilled spirits,  or Opium.

Rather than going with simple syrup which is 1-to-1 white sugar and water that is allowed to boil until it dissolves,   I’ve used honey mixed with a little water so it will go into solution.

Honey has lots of medicinal values from its micronutrients, and it’s said to coat the throat helping with cough.

Also I made the syrup immediately for the drink so this drink is warm rather than room temperature or cold.

Last I added some ginger to it,  ginger is said to help upset stomachs, and is used in many traditional medicines.    Plus it just goes well with all the other ingredients.

We’ll see if it works!

Main Topic: Collecting Firearms

Getting Started

Deciding what you want to collect & how?

Methods of obtaining firearms that you want

What to avoid doing when getting started collecting

Things to do to protect your investments
 

Wrap-Up:

  • Don’t forget to shop Brownells using our affiliate link! Head to firearmsradio.tv and click the affiliate link in the upper right hand corner!

  • Be sure to go like Handgun Radio on facebook and share it with your friends!

  • Leave us a review on iTunes!

  • Listen to all the great shows on the Firearms Radio Network!Guns of Hollywood

  • Be sure to visit the Firearms Insider for review more awesome content! Also, if you are interested in writing reviews for the Firearms Insider, please email TJ at tj@firearmsradio.tv

  • Be sure to check out the Firearms Radio Network on YouTube!

  • Visit Weerd Beard at  weerdworld.com   sqrpt.com  http://gunblogvarietycast.com/

  • Alex! Thanks for coming on the show!!!!

 

Until next week, have fun & safe shooting!!!


 

Handgun Radio 160 - Gun Guy Superstitions

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad  from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

Brought to you by the Firearms Radio Network

This week, Weerd & I discuss some gun guy superstitions!!!

Please check out the Patriot Patch Company for their awesome patches and other high quality items! Visit www.patriotpatch.co for more information!

Shop Amazon using our affiliate link www.firearmsradio.tv/amazon

HELP SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO

“HEY WEERD! IF YOU WANTED TO SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO, HOW WOULD YOU DO IT?!”

Head over to http://firearmsradio.tv/pledge/ and click on HGR.

Week in Review:

Ryan: - Took a friend out shooting to help him pick his first handgun, hes came to the conclusion he wants a Ruger MkIV!

  • My moms home burned recently. Surprisingly, almost all the guns survived relatively unharmed. There’s some water damage that has to be dealt with, but they are all salvageable. Many of them were in a glass front wooden cabinet, which seemed to protect them. Please consider getting a fireproof safe for any guns that are especially important to you, because a wooden cabinet is very little insurance.

Weerd:

Drink Segment: http://www.weerdworld.com/2017/the-bk-cocktail/

The BK Cocktail,   a few weeks ago I gave the recipe for a drink called The Big Chief.

It’s very similar to this one.    You could say one is the Standard Manhattan, this is the dry manhattan.

It’s 1.5 oz Rye

1oz Amaro (I’m using Montenegro)

0.5 oz Dry Vermouth

0.5 oz Luxardo

A few dashes of Angostura Bitters

Really complex flavors, and not as sweet as the Big Chief

Main Topic: Gun Guy Superstitions

-I don’t carry more than one reload….I don’t think I’ll need it.

-I need to run 500 rounds of carry ammo before my gun can be trusted

-Caliber warrior

-Gunfight Dreams

Wrap-Up:

  • Don’t forget to shop Brownells using our affiliate link! Head to firearmsradio.tv and click the affiliate link in the upper right hand corner!

  • Be sure to go like Handgun Radio on facebook and share it with your friends!

  • Leave us a review on iTunes!

  • Listen to all the great shows on the Firearms Radio Network!Guns of Hollywood

  • Be sure to visit the Firearms Insider for review more awesome content! Also, if you are interested in writing reviews for the Firearms Insider, please email TJ at tj@firearmsradio.tv

  • Be sure to check out the Firearms Radio Network on YouTube!

  • Visit Weerd Beard at  weerdworld.com   sqrpt.com  http://gunblogvarietycast.com/

 

Until next week, have fun & safe shooting!!!



 

Handgun Radio 159 - Protect Yourself with Your Snubnose Revolver with Grant Cunningham

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad  from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, we’re joined by Grant Cunningham, Author & Instructor, to discuss his new book “Protect Yourself with your Snubnose Revolver”!

Brought to you by the Firearms Radio Network

Please check out the Patriot Patch Company for their awesome patches and other high quality items! Visit www.patriotpatch.co for more information!

Shop Amazon using our affiliate link www.firearmsradio.tv/amazon

HELP SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO

“HEY WEERD! IF YOU WANTED TO SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO, HOW WOULD YOU DO IT?!”

Head over to http://firearmsradio.tv/pledge/ and click on HGR.

Week in Review:

Ryan:-Snow...lots of it. 40 inches overnight last night in the town next to us..probably close to 30” here. Getting last weeks show posted with the internet holding out hopefully….

Grant:
 

Weerd: Snow snow snow snow snow!

Also did assemble the arbor press.   To get maximum pressure It needs to be bolted down to a bench,  but with just my foot bracing it I managed to pop out the frame wedge out of my walker.    No idea if I need a new wedge or not,   been too tired to fiddle with it, and I want to be VERY deliberate, as I have no Idea how I got into this pickle.

Thanks for the Idea, Sidhartha Priest
 

Drink Segment: When you spent an entire day wrangling a 3 year old, and shoveling frozen snow, the drink that pairs best is quantity, not quality.

Tonight I’m drinking a martini made from 4 parts Linie Aquavit,  and Amantialldo Sherry with some blue cheese stuffed olives.

If you like your drinks a little bit sweet, you’ll HATE this!
 

Main Topic: Protect Yourself with Your Snubnose Revolver with Grant Cunningham

-What prompted you to write this book?

-How did you decide to divide the book up? It seems like the first half of the book is more concept based and the second half focuses on the various techniques.

-There is a chapter called “Vices and Virtues of the Snubby”. What are some of the things that you cover in that section?

-Even with all the advances in semi-auto pistol design, there are still a large number of people who carry a snubby as a primary weapon, and not in the backup gun type role. Why do you think that is?

-With a snubnose revolver, you are dealing with a very short barrel, which can affect bullet performance. What are some considerations when selecting carry ammunition for your snubby revolver?

-There is a great section called “Expecting the Unexpected: Possible, plausible, and likely” I think this is a great section for ANY book, but particularly for this one. Did you include this section for the people who say a J-Frame or other snubby just isn’t enough gun for carrying?

-If you could leave the listeners who want to carry a snubby revolver as a primary carry gun with one piece of advice, what  

Wrap-Up:

  • Don’t forget to shop Brownells using our affiliate link! Head to firearmsradio.tv and click the affiliate link in the upper right hand corner!

  • Be sure to go like Handgun Radio on facebook and share it with your friends!

  • Leave us a review on iTunes!

  • Listen to all the great shows on the Firearms Radio Network!Guns of Hollywood

  • Be sure to visit the Firearms Insider for review more awesome content! Also, if you are interested in writing reviews for the Firearms Insider, please email TJ at tj@firearmsradio.tv

  • Be sure to check out the Firearms Radio Network on YouTube!

  • Visit Weerd Beard at  weerdworld.com   sqrpt.com  http://gunblogvarietycast.com/

  • Grant, Where can people find you? www.grantcunningham.com

 

Until next week, have fun and safe shooting!!!

 

Handgun Radio 158 - The Army Handgun Contract & New Selection with Daniel Watters

 welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad  from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

Brought to you by the Firearms Radio Network

Please check out the Patriot Patch Company for their awesome patches and other high quality items! Visit www.patriotpatch.co for more information!

Shop Amazon using our affiliate link www.firearmsradio.tv/amazon

HELP SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO

“HEY WEERD! IF YOU WANTED TO SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO, HOW WOULD YOU DO IT?!”

Head over to http://firearmsradio.tv/pledge/ and click on HGR.

Week in Review:

Ryan- -I will be buying a shotgun…..I’ve decided i want a shotgun now.

-I want to build a dedicated 9mm AR now….will I end up doing it? Probably at some point.

Nathaniel-

Daniel - New place for articles, Loose Rounds
http://looserounds.com/
http://looserounds.com/556timeline/

Weerd-

Drink Segment: Just discovered this about an hour before the show.

The “Final Ward” is a variation on The Last Word,  but the Gin is swapped for Rye, and of course you don’t mix whiskey with Lime, but lemon.  The Chartreuse and Luxardo are the same.

 

https://youtu.be/Lxs2-D7OPm0


Main Topic: The Army Handgun Contract & Selection with Daniel Watters

Daniel; we spoke before on the podcast about the Army handgun process and how the trials led to the Beretta. How did the whole process start for replacing the M9?

The M9, XM10, and M11 pistols were previously covered in:
HGR 105 - The Joint Service Small Arms Pistol Trials with Daniel Watters

http://firearmsradio.tv/handgun-radio/105


Early 1987 - SEAL Team 6 drops the Beretta 92 in favor of the SIG-Sauer P226

October 1988 - NSW requests 800 P226 for testing.

January 20, 1989 - NSW begins issue of the P226.

October 1989 - SOCOM initiates the Offensive Handgun Weapon System (OHWS) program.

November 27, 1989 - Pre-solicitation Industry Conference for OHWS


February, 1990 - Joint Service Operational Requirement (JSOR) for OHWS published.

August 28, 1991 - OHWS Phase I contracts to Colt and HK.

January 1994 - OHWS Phase II contract to HK

June 28, 1995 - OHWS Phase III (production) contract to HK.  The HK OHWS is ultimately designated the Mk 23 Mod 0.

Early 2000s - NSW works with HK to develop a variant of the USP45CT.  The initial hopes are to sneak its procurement under the radar as the Mk 23 Mod 1.

March 29, 2004 - Multi-Caliber Capable Pistols (Sources Sought notice from SOCOM Headquarters Procurement Division on behalf of the Naval Special Warfare Development Group)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2004/03-March/31-Mar-2004/FBO-00556178.htm

 

1) Semi-automatic firing system;

2) Capable of firing either 9mm, 45 ACP, or .40 S&W;

3) Rail system integral to forward lower frame;

4) Magazine capacity 12 rounds for 45 ACP, 15 rounds for 9mm, 10 rounds for .40 S&W;

5) Weight not to exceed 40 ounces.


October 1, 2004 - Future Handgun System (Sources Sought notice from US Army ARDEC)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2004/10-October/03-Oct-2004/FBO-00687867.htm

 

The FHS will provide increases in terminal ballistic potential, durability, and reliability over the currently fielded M9/9x19mm and M11/9x19mm pistols. Specific features and characteristics of the FHS will include, but are not limited to, an integral accessory rail, enhanced day/night sighting capability, configurable grips (to suit the individual soldier's need), and will permit the use of a sound suppressor when the threat/mission requires. The FHS will use munitions that are optimized for Army full-spectrum contingencies/applications. The FHS will also have a suitable, multi-configurable, holster(s) and ammunition carrier(s).


January 14, 2005 - SOF Combat Pistol (Sources Sought notice from NSWC-Crane)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2005/01-January/16-Jan-2005/FBO-00735432.htm

 

3.1 SOF Combat Pistol System Definition. The Combat Pistol system shall include a caliber .45 pistol, 2 standard magazines, 4 high-capacity magazines, holster, cleaning kit, operator manual, and illuminator module (T). Available system accessories shall also include a threaded barrel for suppressor attachment, (T), suppressor (T), and a Laser Aiming Module (LAM) (O). The Combat Pistol should have a force-on-force training module that uses a non-lethal marking ammunition round that does not significantly or permanently injure operators when fired during force-on-force training (O).

 

3.2 Performance Requirements:

 

3.2.1 Reliability. The Combat Pistol shall have a Mean Rounds Between Stoppage (MRBS) of 2000 rounds (T) and 5000 rounds (O) firing A475, A483, and AA18 ammunition (T). The Combat Pistol shall have a MRBS of 500 rounds (T) 1000 rounds (O) with suppressor attached, firing A475, A483, and AA18 ammunition (T). The Combat Pistol shall have a Mean Rounds Between Failure (MRBF) of 5000 rounds (T) and 10,000 rounds (O) firing 95% A475 and A483 ammunition and 5% AA18 ammunition (T). The Combat Pistol shall have a Mean Rounds Between Failure (MRBF) of 1000 rounds (T), 2,000 rounds (O), with suppressor attached, firing 95% A475 and A483 ammunition and 5% AA18 ammunition (T). The weapon shall maintain the reliability standard when operated in extreme environments such as Over the Beach (OTB), jungle, and desert (sand and dust) (T).

 

3.2.2 Accuracy: The Combat Pistol when firing a 5-round group of A475 .45 ACP Ball ammunition shall be accurate to 4.5-inch extreme spread at a range of 25 meters fired from a machine rest (T), less than 4.5-inch extreme spread at a range of 25 meters (O). Accuracy requirement shall be met unsuppressed and suppressed (T). Point of impact shift unsuppressed to suppressed shall be consistent and shall be 3 inches or less at 25m (T).

 

3.2.3 Service Life. The Combat Pistol shall have a service life of 20,000 rounds, (T) greater than 20,000 rounds (O) using A475 .45 ACP Ball and A483 .45 ACP match ammunition (T). The Combat Pistol should be capable of maintaining these service life goals when firing 5% AA18 .45 +P ammunition (O). The firing schedule will be as follows: The weapons will be fired 125 rounds of A475 or A483, then the suppressor will be installed and the weapon fired with 25 rounds of AA18, then fired 100 rounds of A475 or A483. The weapon will be cooled and suppressor removed. Then it will be fired another 250 rounds of A475 or A483. The weapon will be cooled and cleaned per manufacturer’s instructions. The rate of fire for this cycle will be 10-30 rounds per minute. The cycle will be continued until the usable service life of the pistol is determined, or the round count of 20,000 rounds is reached, whichever comes first. If the weapon reaches the 20,000 round thresholds, the weapon, at the Navy’s decision, may be tested further to attain its actual service life. During cycles, test data sheets will be used to record rounds, failures, parts replacement, stoppages, and cleaning schedule. The weapons will be visually inspected at every cleaning cycle. The receiver, barrel, slide, etc… will be Magnetic Particle Inspected using NDI methods every 5000 rounds to check for metal fatigue.


3.3 Physical description:

 

3.3.1 Weight. The Combat Pistol without magazine or attached accessories shall weigh less than 39 ounces (T), 26 ounces (O).

 

3.3.2 Length: The Combat Pistol length with standard barrel shall be less than 8.75 inches (T) less than 7.5 inches (O) measured along the axis of the bore.

 

3.3.3 Width: The Combat Pistol width shall be less than 1.5 inches (T), 1.28 inches (O).

 

3.3.4 Height: The Combat Pistol height shall be less than 5.5 inches (T) 5.3 inches (O).

 

3.3.5 Magazine Capacity. The Combat Pistol shall have a standard magazine capacity of no less than 8 rounds (T), greater than 8 rounds (O) of .45 ACP ammunition. The Combat Pistol shall also have a high-capacity magazine of no less than 10 rounds that will not create a snag hazard when inserted in the magazine well (T).

 

3.3.6 Accessory Rail: The Combat Pistol shall have an integral MIL-STD-1913 rail(s) for the attachment of accessories. (T) The rail shall be located forward of the trigger guard on the lower portion of the frame. (T)

 

3.3.7 Surface Finish. The Combat Pistol surface finish shall be non-reflective, resistant to peeling, flaking, and chipping, and require a minimum of operator preventive maintenance (T). Internal coatings should be lubricious/low friction mitigating the use of lubricants (O). Non-metallic components shall be fungus and battlefield chemical resistant (T).

 

3.3.8 Color: The Combat Pistol and accessories shall be delivered in Color #30118 (Flat, Dark Earth), per FED-STD-595B (O).




August 26, 2005 - Joint Combat Pistol (Pre-Solicitation notice from SOCOM Headquarters Procurement Division - Merges Future Handgun System with SOF Combat Pistol)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2005/08-August/28-Aug-2005/FBO-00881015.htm


 

The Combat Pistol System consists of: a Caliber .45 pistol and its ancillary equipment including: Magazines (standard and high-capacity); Suppressor Attachment Kit for operation of the pistol with and without sound suppressor; Holster; Magazine Holder (standard and high-capacity); Cleaning Kit; and Operator's Manual. The contract type will be an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) issuing Firm-Fixed Price (FFP) delivery orders. The contract period of performance shall be Five (5)years with an option to extend for an additional Five (5) years. The Minimum Quantity is 24 each Engineering Test Units (ETU's), 12 each with external manual safety and 12 each without external manual safety. The estimated Maximum quantities are: 45,000 no external safety JCP configuration and 600,000 JCP with the external safety configuration; 649,000 Holsters; 96,050 Standard Capacity Magazines; 192,099 High Capacity Magazines; 667,000 Magazine Holders; 132,037 Suppressor attachment kits; Provisioning Item Order, Technical Data Package and associated Data.


3.1 JCP Definition. The JCP System shall include:

 

3.1.1 Weapon. A caliber .45 pistol, two [2] standard-capacity magazines, operator’s manual, and cleaning kit.

 

3.1.2 Holster.

 

3.1.3 High Capacity Magazine. Four [4] high-capacity magazines.

 

3.1.4 Magazine Holder.

 

3.2 Performance Requirements:

 

3.2.1 Reliability. The JCP shall have a Mean Rounds Between Stoppage (MRBS) of 2000 rounds (T) and 5000 rounds (O) firing A475 and A483 ammunition. The JCP shall have a Mean Rounds Between Failure (MRBF) of 5000 rounds (T) and 10,000 rounds (O) firing A475 and A483 ammunition. The weapon shall function reliably when operated in extreme environments per section 3.6.

 

3.2.2 Accuracy. When fired from a rest, at a range of 50 meters, the mean radius of a 10-shot group fired from the JCP shall not be greater than A) 3.15 inches or B)1.8 inches over baseline ammunition performance, whichever is less (T). Baseline ammunition performance is defined as the average mean radius plus two sample standard deviations of three 10-shot groups fired from a test barrel at 50m.

 

3.2.3 Service Life. The JCP shall have a service life of 20,000 rounds (T), greater than 20,000 (O), using A475 .45 ACP Ball, and/or A483 .45 ACP match ammunition. The JCP should be capable of a service life of 20,000 rounds when firing 5% AA18 .45 +P ammunition (O). Receiver service life shall be defined as a receiver that is at the end of its usable life cycle.

 

3.3 Physical description.

 

3.3.1 Magazine Capacity. The JCP shall have a standard magazine capacity of no less than eight [8] rounds (T), greater than eight [8] rounds (O) of .45 ACP ammunition. The JCP shall also have a high-capacity magazine of no less than ten [10] rounds (T), fifteen [15] rounds (O), of .45 ACP ammunition.

 

3.3.2 Pistol Lanyard Attachment Point. The JCP shall have a rigid attachment point for a lanyard (T). The JCP lanyard attachment point shall not interfere with the JCP control features or magazine unloading and reloading, and shall minimize snag hazard (T).


 

3.3.3 Accessory Rail. The JCP shall have an integral MIL-STD-1913 rail for the attachment of accessories (T). The rail shall be located forward of the trigger guard on the lower portion of the frame (T).

 

3.3.4 Surface Finish. The JCP surface finish shall be non-reflective, resistant to peeling, flaking, and chipping, and require a minimum of operator preventive maintenance (T). Internal coatings should be lubricious/low friction mitigating the use of lubricants (O). Non-metallic components shall be fungus and battlefield chemical resistant (T). JCP materials and coatings shall protect the pistol from degradation in all climates and geographical areas including maritime, coastal, desert, tropical jungle, arctic, urban areas, and mountain environments (T). The materials and coatings shall minimize the attraction of dust and contamination (T).


 

3.3.5 Color. The JCP frame and JCP holster shall be delivered in Color #30118 (Flat, Dark Earth), Per FED-STD-595B (T). The barrel and slide shall be anti-reflective, matte grey or matte black finish comparable to FED-STD-595B series #36000 or #37000 colors (T).

 

3.3.6 Length. The JCP length, with standard barrel, shall be less than 9.65 inches (T).


 

3.3.7 Width. The JCP width shall be less than 1.53 inches (T).

 


March 10, 2006 - Combat Pistol (Modification notice from SOCOM Headquarters Procurement Division - The US Army drops out of joint procurement)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2006/03-March/12-Mar-2006/FBO-01004554.htm

 

The Combat Pistol System consists of: a Caliber .45 pistol and its ancillary equipment including: Magazines (standard and high-capacity); Suppressor Attachment Kit for operation of the pistol with and without sound suppressor; Holster; Magazine Holder (standard and high-capacity); Cleaning Kit; and Operator's Manual. The contract type will be an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) issuing Firm-Fixed Price (FFP) delivery orders. The contract period of performance shall be five (5) years with an option to extend for an additional five (5) years. The Minimum Quantity is 24/ea Engineering Test Units (ETU's). The estimated maximum quantities are: 50,000/ea combat pistol systems (which includes a .45 caliber CP, 2 standard capacity magazines, operator?s manual and cleaning kit); 50,000/ea Holsters; 200,000/ea Standard Capacity Magazines; 360,000/ea High Capacity Magazines; 50,000/ea Magazine Holders; 15,000/ea Suppressor attachment kits; Provisioning Item Order; associated data; and 3/ea Instructor and Key Personnel (I&KP) Training courses.


September 5, 2006 - Combat Pistol (Modification notice from SOCOM Headquarters Procurement Division - SOCOM drops the Combat Pistol solicitation)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2006/09-September/08-Sep-2006/FBO-01135668.htm


 

October 31, 2006 - Air Force Handgun (Sources Sought notice from Air Force Materiel Command)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2006/11-November/02-Nov-2006/FBO-01173583.htm

 

.45 ACP

April 16, 2007 - Air Force Future Handgun (Sources Sought notice from Air Force Materiel Command)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2007/04-April/18-Apr-2007/FBO-01274260.htm

.45 ACP

April 28, 2008 - Modular Handgun System (Sources Sought notice from US Army TACOM Life Cycle Management Command - Rock Island.  Note that this was actually issued on behalf of the USAF.)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2008/04-April/30-Apr-2008/FBO-01562302.htm

 

USAF requirement is ~ 100,600 pistols and associated ammunition.

System Performance.
 

• System Accuracy. Accuracy will be assessed by two measures:

a) To a range of 50 meters, when the weapon is mounted in a machine rest or manufacturer’s design rest with a human shooter, dispersion will be no greater than a 4” Circular Error of Probability (CEP).

b) When in the hands of a shooter, the weapon must enable the shooter to successfully engage E-type silhouettes and:

1) Hit each target with 2 shots to the upper torso and one to the head within 7 – 10 seconds at 15 meters.

2) Hit the target with 2 shots at 7 meters within 4 seconds.
 

• Projectile characteristics. The Handgun System should enable the shooter to produce a wound channel larger than an M882 projectile when firing standard ball (FMJ, non-expanding) ammunition into ballistic gelatin from a distance of up to 25 meters where the cavity is measured from 0-14 inches deep.
 

• Reliability. The Modular Handgun System shall demonstrate 2,000 Mean Rounds Between Stoppage (MRBS) (operator clearable/correctable stoppages), and 5000 Mean Rounds Between Failures (MRBF) (nonoperator correctable).
 

• Service Life. The Modular Handgun shall have a minimum service life of 25,000 rounds.

System Characteristics.
 

• Ergonomics. The Modular Handgun System must accommodate the 5th to 95th percentile of users. Determination will be made based on width, length, grip circumference, location of controls, ambidextrous controls, etc.
 

• Target Acquisition Enablers. As a minimum, Mil-Std-1913 rails shall be incorporated on the weapon to enable rail mounted accessories to be attached. Integrated aiming /pointed devices are of interest and will also be evaluated.
 

• Physical Dimensions: With sights attached and empty magazine inserted in weapon, the following dimensions are not to be exceeded:

a) The full size version shall be no more than 8.7 inches long, 5.8 inches high, and 1.6 inches wide. Weight shall not exceed 36 ounces.

b) The compact version shall be no larger than 7.5 inches long, 5.8 high, and 1.6 inches wide. Weight shall not exceed 34.5 ounces.
 

• Detection Avoidance: Weapon shall be of a non-reflective neutral color. The MHS shall be operable with sound and flash suppression kit in place.
 

• Safety Mechanisms: As a minimum, the handgun shall have internal safety mechanisms in place such that a loaded cartridge will not fire if the weapon is dropped from a height of 5 feet onto a concrete or other hard surface. The weapon shall also have an external, manually operated safety button/switch operable with one hand.


 

Fiscal Year 2009 - USASOC adopts the Glock 19 as the “Combat Assault Pistol.”

Fiscal Year 2010 - USASOC adopts the Glock 26 as the “Concealed Carry Pistol.”

2010 - To begin filling their Family of Low Visibility Concealable Pistol (LVCP) requirement, SOCOM acquires 2,500 Glock 19 from the Department of Homeland Security.




January 2010 - NSW adopts the HK45CT as the “Combat Assault Pistol.”  This ultimately receives the official designation Mk 24 Mod 0.

January 8, 2013 - Modular Handgun System (Sources Sought notice from Army Contracting Command - New Jersey)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2013/01-January/10-Jan-2013/FBO-02960851.htm

 

1. Performance Improvement: Request information on potential improvements in handgun performance in the areas of accuracy and dispersion out to 50m, terminal performance, modularity, reliability and durability in all environments.

 

* The handgun and ammunition combination should, at a range of 50 meters, have a 90% or better probability of hit on a 4 inch circle when fired from a test fixture. It must maintain this throughout the life of the system. Systems are encouraged to utilize ergonomic and design improvements to minimize the effects of greater recoil energies, reducing the degradation of shooter-in-the-loop dispersion thereby improving the probability of hit.

 

* Modularity includes but is not limited to compatibility with accessory items to include tactical lights, lasers and sound suppressors. There is specific interest in designs that would be adaptable and/or adjustable to provide enhanced ergonomics that ensure 5th percentile female through 95th percentile male military personnel access to controls, such as the safety, magazine release, slide release and all other applicable controls. There is also interest in designs that offer these enhanced ergonomics while providing full ambidextrous controls.

 

* The handgun ammunition's terminal ballistics will be evaluated at ranges of 0-50m, over 0-14 inches of ballistic gelatin, to determine whether it provides more lethality when compared to the current U.S. Military M882 ammunition fired from the M9. Ammunition evaluated will meet international law of war conventions that bound current general purpose military ammunition. The Pistol evaluated must be capable of chamber pressures equal to or greater than SAAMI specification for the given cartridge, with prolonged reliability equal to or greater than the current M9. However, the ability to accommodate higher chamber pressures in excess of 20% over SAAMI spec without degradation of reliability is of specific interest.

 

* Reliability and Durability includes but is not limited to Mean Rounds between Stoppage (MRBS), Mean Rounds Between Failure (MRBF) and Service Life. There is specific interest in designs with ratings of at least 2,000 rounds MRBS, 10,000 rounds MRBF and 35,000 round Service Life.

 

2. Production capacity estimates. Request information on minimum and maximum monthly production rates for a military handgun and associated ammunition as well as the lead times to achieve these production rates. This estimate should consider a US based production facility by the third year of deliveries. This capacity should be above and beyond any current production orders or current sales. If new facilities are planned or required, so state. A list of State and Federal agencies, as well as foreign governments, that have adopted the handgun should also be included.

 

5. Rough Order of Magnitude (ROM) Estimate. Request estimated pricing for the submission based on the following quantities: 250,000 to 550,000 handguns.

 

March 11, 2013 - Modular Handgun System (Modification notice)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2013/03-March/13-Mar-2013/FBO-03008388.htm

 

 

November 7, 2013 - Modular Handgun System (Special Notice - Announcement for  MHS Industry Day)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2013/11-November/09-Nov-2013/FBO-03230164.htm


 

December 3, 2013 - Modular Handgun System (Addendum to the announcement for  MHS Industry Day)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2013/12-December/05-Dec-2013/FBO-03244373.htm


 

December 10, 2013 - Modular Handgun System (Addendum to the announcement for  MHS Industry Day)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2013/12-December/12-Dec-2013/FBO-03249147.htm


 

February 10, 2014 - Modular Handgun System (Questions and Answers from Industry Day #1)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/02-February/12-Feb-2014/FBO-03284954.htm


 

February 12, 2014 - Modular Handgun System (Special Notice - Announcement for  MHS Industry Day #2)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/02-February/14-Feb-2014/FBO-03287839.htm


 

February 27, 2014 - Modular Handgun System (Special Notice - MHS Industry Day #2 postponed)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/03-March/01-Mar-2014/FBO-03298395.htm

 


 

June 10, 2014 - Modular Handgun System (Request for Information)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/06-June/12-Jun-2014/FBO-03391276.htm


 

June 18, 2014 - Modular Handgun System (Special Notice - MHS Industry Day #2 rescheduled)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/06-June/20-Jun-2014/FBO-03399726.htm

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/06-June/20-Jun-2014/FBO-03399727.htm


 

September 9, 2014 - Modular Handgun System (Questions and Answers from Industry Day #2)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/09-September/12-Sep-2014/FBO-03504659.htm


 

September 18, 2014 - Modular Handgun System (Special Notice - Announcement for  MHS Industry Day #3)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/09-September/20-Sep-2014/FBO-03518454.htm


 

September 25, 2014 - Modular Handgun System (Special Notice - MHS solicitation number updated)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/09-September/27-Sep-2014/FBO-03529171.htm


 

September 29, 2014 - Modular Handgun System (Special Notice - Draft Request for Proposal)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/10-October/01-Oct-2014/FBO-03536451.htm

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/10-October/01-Oct-2014/FBO-03536452.htm

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/10-October/01-Oct-2014/FBO-03536526.htm


 

October 23, 2014 - Modular Handgun System (Special Notice - Read Ahead Questions to participants for MHS Industry Day #3)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/10-October/25-Oct-2014/FBO-03557184.htm


 

October 24, 2014 - Modular Handgun System (Follow-up Questions and Answers from Industry Day #2)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/10-October/26-Oct-2014/FBO-03557975.htm


 

November 7, 2014 - Modular Handgun System (Special Notice - Solicitation Response Time)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2014/11-November/09-Nov-2014/FBO-03569552.htm


 

January 21, 2015 - Modular Handgun System (Special Notice - Release of the Request for Proposal delayed)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2015/01-January/23-Jan-2015/FBO-03621263.htm


 

January 30, 2015 - Modular Handgun System  (Questions and Answers from Industry Day #3)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2015/02-February/01-Feb-2015/FBO-03629843.htm


 

April 1, 2015 - Modular Handgun System  (Additional Questions and Answers from Industry Day #3)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2015/04-April/03-Apr-2015/FBO-03686706.htm

 



 

June 5, 2015 - Modular Handgun System  (Special Notice - Announcement for  MHS Industry Day #4)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2015/06-June/07-Jun-2015/FBO-03755061.htm


 

June 8, 2015 - Modular Handgun System  (Special Notice - Draft Request for Proposal  #2)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2015/06-June/10-Jun-2015/FBO-03756790.htm

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2015/06-June/10-Jun-2015/FBO-03756791.htm


 

July 14, 2015 - XM17 Modular Handgun System (Pre-Solicitation notice)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2015/07-July/16-Jul-2015/FBO-03796996.htm


 

August 28, 2015 - XM17 Modular Handgun System (Request For Proposal issued)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2015/08-August/30-Aug-2015/FBO-03861376.htm

(The RFP for the XM17 can be a little confusing as its sections are out of order with the timeline of events.  Section L covers the initial submission of pistol candidates, and Section M covers the factors behind the downselect to the last three candidates.  However, you then have to hop to Section H to see the award factors for the final winner.  Section C then covers the selected XM17 winner's Production Verification Testing (PVT) and entry to production status.)

 

Maximum Quantities

-------------------------------------------------------------

| Item Description | Quantity

-------------------------------------------------------------

| HANDGUN:

-------------------------------------------------------------

| MHS Production | 550,000

-------------------------------------------------------------

| Weapon System Component Package - COMPACT | 2

-------------------------------------------------------------

| COMPACT MHS - First Article Test (FAT) | 1

-------------------------------------------------------------

| Demonstration Models | 360

-------------------------------------------------------------

| Cutaway Models | 360

-------------------------------------------------------------

| MHS Blank Conversion Kit FAT | 2

-------------------------------------------------------------

| MHS Blank Conversion Kit | 193,500

-------------------------------------------------------------

| MHS 1041 Cartridge Conversion Kit FAT | 2

-------------------------------------------------------------

| MHS 1041 Cartridge Conversion Kit | 193,500

-------------------------------------------------------------

| MHS Suppressor Kit FAT | 2

-------------------------------------------------------------

| MHS Suppressor Kit | 193,500

-------------------------------------------------------------

| MHS General Officer Pistol | 9,000

-------------------------------------------------------------

-------------------------------------------------------------

| AMMUNITION:

-------------------------------------------------------------

| XM1152 Ball Cartridge FAT | 1

-------------------------------------------------------------

| XM1152 Ball Cartridge | 80,000,000

-------------------------------------------------------------

| XM1153 Special Purpose Cartridge FAT | 1

-------------------------------------------------------------

| XM1153 Special Purpose Cartridge | 20,000,000

-------------------------------------------------------------

| DDI Cartridge-First Article Test (FAT) | 1

-------------------------------------------------------------

| DDI Cartridge-Production | 40,000

-------------------------------------------------------------

| BLANK Cartridge-First Article Test (FAT) | 1

-------------------------------------------------------------

| BLANK Cartridge-Production | 60,000

-------------------------------------------------------------

| XM1152 BALL Cartridge-Demonstration Model | 80

-------------------------------------------------------------

| XM1152 BALL Cartridge-Cutaway Model | 80

-------------------------------------------------------------

| XM1153 SP Cartridge-Demonstration Model | 80

-------------------------------------------------------------

| XM1153 SP Cartridge-Cutaway Model | 80

-------------------------------------------------------------

| EPVAT Barrels | 60

-------------------------------------------------------------

| Accuracy Barrels XM1152 BALL Cartridge | 60

-------------------------------------------------------------

| Accuracy Barrels XM1153 SP Cartridge | 60

-------------------------------------------------------------

| Profile-Alignment Gage-XM1152 Ball Cartridge | 200

-------------------------------------------------------------

| Profile-Alignment Gage-XM1153 SP Cartridge | 200

-------------------------------------------------------------

-------------------------------------------------------------

-------------------------------------------------------------

| Spare Parts | 27,500

-------------------------------------------------------------

 

The MHS procurement is intended to be an open caliber competition, which means the choice of caliber is left to the discretion of the Offeror. Offerors are permitted to submit up to two (2) proposals configured to the specific caliber it chooses for evaluation. If an Offeror chooses to submit two (2) proposals, their submissions must each be chambered in a different cartridge of the Offeror's choosing. In addition, each proposal must be submitted independently from each other.

 

Each proposal will consist of either a two (2) handgun solution (one full size and one compact), or one (1) handgun solution that meets requirements for both a full size and compact weapon, plus the following ammunition: ball, special purpose, and dummy drilled inert (DDI), as well as, accessories (to include spare parts).

 

Each Offeror will be required to conduct a Contractor Product Instruction/Training Demonstration session to the Government on the hardware and the manuals. The Government will schedule times and dates to conduct the Contractor Product Instruction/Training Demonstration.

 

The Government intends to award up to three (3) Firm Fixed Price (FFP), Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) contracts based on the results of the initial evaluation of the proposal submission by following the evaluation procedure contained in section M of this RFP. The Government will then make a final down-selection to a single contractor by following the evaluation procedures contained in section H of this RFP. The period of performance of the base contract(s) will be ten (10) years for the handgun, accessories and spares and five (5) years for the ammunition.

 

Each contract that is awarded will be issued a delivery order in the base year to meet the minimum guarantee for the contract. The minimum contract guarantee will consist of the weapon system component package (CLIN 0001), as described in the statement of work. The weapon system component package items, which will be due 60 days from receipt of order will be used as part of the down-select evaluation as described in section H of this RFP. The Contractors not selected to provide production units, as a result of the downselect evaluation will have their contracts considered complete with no further obligation required by the Government. All bid sample hardware received from unsuccessful Offerors, with the exception of ammunition, will be returned in an as tested condition. These items will be returned to the respective Offeror per the same address from which it was received.

 

SECTION L - INSTRUCTIONS, CONDITIONS, AND NOTICES TO OFFERORS

L.1 PROPOSAL SUBMISSION

 

L.1.5 Bid Sample and Hardware Submission

Sample hardware shall be representative of the Offerors production processes and quality that can be expected in full rate production units. Offerors hardware submission shall be verified for completeness. If it is determined that a part of the submission is missing the Offeror shall be notified and be given no more than 10 business days to complete the submission. Failure to submit within 10 business days will result in elimination from the competition.

 

NOTE: UID labels shall be applied to the serialized component of the handgun.

 

Interested Offerors must submit thirty-two (32) complete, identical, and functional bid samples of their proposed full size Modular Handgun System, and four (4) compact Modular Handgun System (if applicable). Each bid sample shall consist of the following:

 

L.1.5.1. Handgun: Each Offeror shall provide Modular Handgun System candidate systems (both full size and compact) in accordance with the Modular Handgun System Purchase Description (AR-PD-177). Interested Offerors must submit thirty-two (32) complete, identical, and functional bid samples of their proposed full size Modular Handgun System , and four (4) compact Modular Handgun System (if applicable). If the Offeror is submitting a one (1) gun solution, thirty-six (36) complete, identical, and functional bid samples are required. Single gun proposals will be evaluated against the requirements of both the full size and compact weapons. Standard commercial markings are acceptable for bid samples.

 

L.1.5.2. Removable Magazines: Each Offeror shall provide three (3) removable ammunition magazines per handgun to meet the following requirements. Full size pistols require two (2) Full Size Extended Capacity magazines and one (1) Full Size Standard Capacity. Compact pistols require one (1) Compact Standard Capacity magazine and two (2) standard magazines (as used in the full size handgun). If a single gun solution is proposed, two (2) Full Size Extended Capacity magazines and one (1) Full Size Standard Capacity magazine will be required to be submitted. The total number of magazines required for Bid Sample Testing should be: 200 extended magazines, 220 standard magazines (which includes 120 for the compact) and 60 compact magazines. The magazines shall allow for disassembly without the use of special tools, and shall not require any special tools to load. The term special tool is defined as a unique and/or new tool/device needed by the Soldier for the handguns routine operator-level maintenance, cleaning, and field stripping. For additional information on the magazine requirement, reference the Modular Handgun System Purchase Description (AR-PD-177) Paragraph 3.4.7.

 

L.1.5.3. Holster: Each Offeror shall provide thirty (30) right handed and ten (10) left handed sleeves that are compatible with the Improved Modular Tactical Holster (IMTH) Quick Disconnect (female adapter), PN 430952CT.

 

L.1.5.4 Magazine Pouches: Each Offeror shall provide eighty (80) MOLLE compatible magazine pouches. Each magazine pouch shall securely carry 1 extended magazine, in accordance with TM-10-8465-236-10. The magazine pouches shall have a cover to protect the magazine from environmental conditions, such as sand, dust, mud, etc. The magazine pouch shall have a drain hole. The magazine pouch shall be similar in form, fit and function as the currently issued magazine pouches listed here: NSN 8465-01-524-7361 (Digital ACU) or 8415-01-519-6467 (Olive Drab) or 8415-01-519-5184 (Khaki).

 

L.1.5.5. Cleaning Kit: Each Offeror shall provide one (1) bore brush per handgun. The bore brush for the handgun shall be compatible with the currently issued cleaning rod: Rod, Cleaning, Cal .45, M4 Drawing number 5564102. A drawing for the currently issued cleaning brush tip is included for reference: Tip, Cleaning Brush Drawing number 5238602. These drawings are included as attachments.

 

L.1.5.6. Replacement Barrels and Spare and Repair Parts: Each Offeror shall provide replacement barrels, spare and repair parts, magazines, and spare supplies for the cleaning kits adequate to support the evaluation.

 

NOTE: A sufficient number of replacement barrels, magazines, spare and repair parts as determined by the Offeror, is required to support the following tests. Note that the quantities of ammunition below is a subset of the total quantities required as listed in paragraph L.1.5.11.

-----------------------------------------------------------------

|Test |Number of Guns |Rounds per Gun |Total Rounds |

-----------------------------------------------------------------

|Reliability | 3 | 12,500 | 37,500 |

-----------------------------------------------------------------

|High Temperature | 3 | 3,600 | 10,800 |

-----------------------------------------------------------------

|User Evaluation | 10 | 1,000 | 10,000 |

-----------------------------------------------------------------

ALL HANDGUNS PROVIDED AS PART OF THE PROPOSAL SUBMISSION WILL BE USED IN TESTING. The results of High Temperature testing will be used to support the issuance of a safety release. This test will be conducted as outlined in paragraph 4.7.10.2 of purchase description AR-PD 177. Any weapon that fails to have a safety release issued, will be eliminated from further consideration.

 

L.1.5.7. ...

The Modular Handgun System will be subject to exposure to dye penetrant chemicals during Non Destructive Testing (NDT). Non-Destructive Testing will be performed upon initial inspection, at intervals of 4,000 rounds, and at final inspection. Sufficient spares and mandatory replacement parts (i.e.: roll pins, screws, etc) are to be provided to facilitate disassembly/ reassembly throughout the bid sample testing.

 

Any special tools required to support the Modular Handgun System during the live fire tests shall be supplied by the Offeror. Offerors will not be given the opportunity to provide additional spare and repair parts while testing is being conducted; therefore, all replacement barrels, magazines and spare and repair parts must be provided at the date/time of proposal submission, prior to initiation of testing. There is NO LIMIT to the number of spares that an Offeror can provide nor will an Offeror be negatively rated for providing extra spares. ANY CANDIDATE SYSTEM THAT DOES NOT MEET TEST REQUIREMENTS DUE TO PARTS BREAKAGE AND A LACK OF SPARE AND REPAIR PARTS WILL BE CONSIDERED NON-OPERATOR REPAIRABLE AND WILL BE DOCUMENTED AS A CLASS III FAILURE REGARDLESS OF THE TYPE OF FAILURE. ADDITIONALLY, ANY MODULAR HANDGUN SYSTEM CANDIDATE WHO RECEIVES A CLASS III FAILURE FOR INSUFFICIENT SPARES, WHICH INCLUDES MAGAZINES OR REPLACEMENT BARRELS WILL BE RATED AS UNACCEPTABLE AND WILL BE ELIMINATED FROM FURTHER CONSIDERATION FOR CONTRACT AWARD. Failure definitions can be obtained from Section 4.8.1.3 and 6.7 of the Modular Handgun System Purchase Description (AR-PD-177).

 

L.1.5.8. Ransom Rest Inserts: Each Offeror shall provide two (2) Ransom Rest inserts for use with their full size candidate modular handgun systems. In addition, each Offeror will specify the torque to which the insert fasteners will be tightened for use in accuracy testing. Torque specifications shall be included with the Ransom Rest inserts. Specifications shall be provided in such a manner as to ensure the instructions are not lost during delivery to the Aberdeen Test Center.

 

L.1.5.9. Test/Mann Barrel: Each Offeror shall provide three (3) identical Mann Barrels with internal dimensions identical to that of their Modular Handgun System Candidate. Length of Mann Barrel shall be representative of the Offerors submitted Modular Handgun System Full Size Candidate.

 

L.1.5.10. Suppressor Kit: Each Offeror shall provide three (3) complete suppressor kits for their Full Size Modular Handgun System candidate submissions. A suppressor kit is necessary to allow a standard Modular Handgun System to be operationally capable of firing with the suppressor. This kit must include the suppressor, and may include any of the following, as necessary: a slide with taller sights, threaded barrel, adapters, etc. All components required to enable a suppressor to be attached must be interchangeable at the operator level. The government is verifying that the suppressor kit is functional. The suppressor is only to demonstrate that the weapon can be fired using the requested kit and will not be evaluated.

 

L.1.5.11. Ammunition: Each Offeror will be required to submit sufficient rounds of ammunition to conduct Bid Sample testing. At a minimum, Offerors shall provide 2,000 rounds of Ball, 60,000 rounds of Special Purpose (SP), and fifty (50) Dummy rounds. For additional information, see Purchase Descriptions AR-PD-180 for Ball ammunition, AR-PD-179 for SP ammunition, and AR-PD-184 for Dummy ammunition.


 

M.1 BASIS FOR AWARD

 

M.1.1 The Government intends to make up to three (3) base awards as a result of this RFP. Each contractor will receive an order for the Weapon System Component Package requirements in accordance with CLIN 1001 of the base contract and Statement of Work C.3.1 which will satisfy the minimum quantity guarantee of each of the ID/IQ contract. The Government will select for award the proposals that are most advantageous and represent the best value to the Government using the trade-off method, with the Source Selection Authority (SSA) giving the appropriate consideration to the nine (9) evaluation factors: Bid Sample Test - Technical, Bid Sample Test - Other, Written Technical, License Rights Ammunition, License Rights Handgun and Accessories, Production/Manufacturing, Price, Past Performance, and Small Business Participation. The Government will weigh the relative benefits of each proposal and award will be made based on an integrated assessment of the results of the evaluation. In making the integrated assessment of the evaluation results, the SSA will give due consideration to all of the Factors and Sub-Factors and their relative order of importance. Offerors that receive a final rating of Red/Unacceptable at any Factor/Sub-factor level are ineligible for award.

 

M.1.2 The Government reserves the right to conduct discussions to permit Offerors to revise their proposals.

 

M.1.3 Minimum Acceptability: If an Offeror takes exception to any of the terms and conditions of the solicitation, the offer may not be considered for contract award. All Offerors are urged to ensure that their initial proposals are submitted with the most favorable terms in order to reflect their best possible proposal.

 

M.2 FACTORS AND SUB-FACTORS TO BE EVALUATED:

 

M.2.1 The Government will weigh the relative benefits of each proposal and the SSA will assess the results of the following Factors:

Factor 1: Bid Sample Test - Technical

Factor 2: Bid Sample Test - Other

Factor 3: Written Technical

Factor 4: License Rights Ammunition

Factor 5: License Rights Handgun and Accessories

Factor 6: Production/Manufacturing

Factor 7: Price

Factor 8: Past Performance

Factor 9: Small Business Participation

 

M.2.1.1 Relative order of importance: The Bid Sample Test - Technical factor is more important than the Bid Sample Test Other factor, which is more important than the Written Technical factor, which is more important than the License Rights Ammunition factor, which is much more important than the License Rights - Handgun and Accessories factor, which is more important than the Production/Manufacturing factor, which is more important than the Price factor, which in turn is more important than the Past Performance factor, which is more important than the Small Business Participation factor. The combination of all factors other than Price is significantly more important than Price.

 

M.2.2 Factor 1, the Bid Sample Test - Technical factor has four (4) sub-factors which are listed below:

Sub-Factor 1 Initial Reliability Full Size (includes single gun candidate)

Sub-Factor 2 System Accuracy Isolated (no soldier in the loop)

Sub-Factor 3 Characteristics of the Projectile

Sub-Factor 4 Joint Warfighter Ergonomics

M.2.2.1 Relative order of importance: Of the four (4) Technical Sub-Factors, the Initial Reliability sub-factor and the System Accuracy Isolated sub-factor, are equally important and are each more important than the Characteristics of the Projectile sub-factor, which is more important than the Joint Warfighter Ergonomics sub-factor.

 

Note: If at any point during Government testing, a safety issue is identified with a Modular Handgun System Candidate, the Government reserves the right to discontinue testing and eliminate the candidate from further consideration for award.

 

M.2.3 Factor 2, the Bid Sample Test - Other factor has two (2) sub-factors which are listed below:

Sub-Factor 1 Early Warfighter Acceptance

Sub-Factor 2 Initial Reliability - Compact Function (or single gun candidate)

M.2.3.1 Relative order of importance: Of the two (2) Sub-Factors, the Early Warfighter Acceptance sub-factor is more important than the Initial Reliability Compact Function sub-factor.

 

M.2.4 Factor 3, Written Technical has no sub-factors

 

M.2.5 Factor 4, License Rights - Ammunition has no sub-factors

 

M.2.6 Factor 5, License Rights Handgun and Accessories has two sub-factors:

Sub-Factor 1 Handgun

Sub-Factor 2 Accessories

M.2.6.1 Of the two (2) License Rights sub-factors, the Handgun sub-factor is significantly more important than the Accessories subfactor.

 

M.2.7 Factor 6, Production/Manufacturing has four (4) sub-factors which are listed below:

Sub-Factor 1 Ammunition Production/Manufacturing Plan

Sub-Factor 2 Handgun Production/Manufacturing Plan

Sub-Factor 3 Program Management Plan

Sub-Factor 4 Quality

M.2.7.1 Of the four (4) Production/Manufacturing sub-factors, the Ammunition production/ manufacturing sub-factor is equally important to the Handgun production/ manufacturing sub-factor which are each more important than the Program Management Plan sub-factor, which is equal to the Quality sub-factor.

 

M.2.8 Factor 7, Price has no sub-factors.

 

M.2.9 Factor 8, Past Performance has no sub-factors.

 

M.2.10 Factor 9, Small Business Participation has no sub-factors.


M.3.1.3 Upon receipt of hardware submission, inspections will be conducted to ensure that the Modular Handgun System candidate has an integrated rail, an external safety mechanism, adjustability for ergonomics (by means of grip inserts, grip panels, front or back straps, different triggers, or other means) and be other than single action only. Submissions without these features will not be considered for evaluation.


M.3.2.2.4 Sub-Factor 4: Joint Warfighter Ergonomics The Government will evaluate the capability of the candidate Modular Handgun System to accommodate Warfighters with hand sizes that fall into the range of the 5th to 95th percentile (threshold), and Warfighters with hand sizes that fall into the range of the 1st to 99th percentile shooters (objective). The SME will verify that the user is able, upon properly gripping the handgun with a one-hand grip as specified in FM 3-23.35, to operate the slide release, safety, magazine release, decocker (as applicable) and trigger (complete Double Action and Single Action squeeze, as applicable). Areas of consideration will include adjustability of grip at the operator level and soldier fit. This evaluation will include the need for tools to support the handgun.

 

SECTION H - SPECIAL CONTRACT REQUIREMENTS

Procedure for Down-Selection of the Modular Handgun System (MHS) Candidates After Awards

 

H.5.1 Factors and Sub-Factors to be Evaluated for Down-Select

The criteria for down-select evaluation (DSE) consists of both technical and non-technical factors. These factors are as follows:

Factor 1: System Accuracy Shooter In The Loop

Factor 2: Reliability and Service Life

Factor 3: License Rights Ammunition

Factor 4: License Rights Handgun and Accessories

Factor 5: Other Characteristics

Factor 6: Price

 

The System Accuracy Shooter in the Loop factor and the Reliability and Service Life Factor are equally important, and are more important than the License Rights Ammunition, which is significantly more important than the License Rights Handgun and Accessories, which is significantly more important than the Other Characteristics Factor, which is significantly more important that the Price factor. The combination of all factors other than Price are significantly more important than the Price factor. The Government will weigh any increase in merit rating against any additional price to determine if the parity of the relationship warrants the paying of a higher price for additional merit. However, affordability may become more determinative in the event competing technical ratings are closely grouped and offer comparable value to the Government. The Government reserves the right to down-select to other than the lowest priced Contractor, or to other than the Contractor with the highest technical rating if the Government determines that to do so would result in the best value to the Government. The Government will weigh the relative benefits of each proposal and the SSA will assess the results of the evaluations of each of the factors.

 

H.5.1.1 Factor 1, System Accuracy Shooter- In-The-Loop has no sub-factors

 

H.5.1.2 Factor 2, Reliability and Service Life has two (2) sub-factors which are listed below:

Sub-Factor 1 Reliability

Sub-Factor 2 Service Life

H.5.1.2.1 The relative order of importance for these factor are as follows: the Reliability sub-factor is more important than the Service Life sub-factor.

 

H.5.1.3 Factor 3, License Rights Ammunition has no sub-factors:

 

H.5.1.4 Factor 4, License Rights Handgun and Accessories:

Sub-Factor 1 Handgun

Sub-Factor 2 Accessories

H.5.1.4.1 The relative order of importance for these two sub-factors are as follows: the Handgun LR is significantly more important than the Accessories LR.

 

H.5.1.5 Factor 5, Other Characteristics, has six (6) sub-factors which are listed below:

Sub-Factor 1 Physical Dimensions (Full Size and Compact)

Sub-Factor 2 Material Reliability in Extreme Conditions

Sub-Factor 3 Magazine Characteristics

Sub-Factor 4 Maintainability - Field Level Maintenance

Sub-Factor 5 Ammunition Characteristics

Sub-Factor 6 Joint Concept of Operations (CONOPS)

H.5.1.5.1 The relative order of importance for these factor are as follows: the Physical Dimensions sub-factor is more important than the Material Reliability in Extreme Conditions sub-factor, which is more important than the Magazine Characteristics and Maintainability Field Level Maintenance sub-factors, which are of equal importance, and which are more important than the Ammunition Characteristics sub-factor, and which is more important than the Joint Concept of Operations sub-factor.

 

H.5.1.6 Factor 6, Price has no sub-factors

 

Note: If at any point during the DSE the Government identifies a safety issue with a Modular Handgun System Candidate, the Government reserves the right to discontinue testing and eliminate the candidate from further consideration.


 

SECTION C - DESCRIPTION/SPECIFICATIONS/WORK STATEMENT

STATEMENT OF WORK FOR MODULAR HANDGUN SYSTEM

C.1.0. SCOPE

C.1.1. Objectives

The objective of this statement of work (SOW) is to define the requirements for the production and delivery of the Modular Handgun System (MHS) to the Government in accordance with the Government’s MHS Purchase Descriptions, this SOW, and the associated product and data deliverables. The Contractor shall support and sustain the proposed handgun system to meet the Government’s quantities required for the U.S. Army to test, operate, maintain and sustain the proposed MHS. This SOW is broken out into 4 parts to support handgun and ammunition Production Verification Testing (PVT) / Down-Select and Evaluation (DSE) and Production. The layout is as follows:

 

HANDGUN

Part A - Handgun PVT/DSE

Part B - Handgun Production / Compact PVT

 

AMMUNITION

Part A - Ammunition PVT/DSE

Part B - Ammunition Production

 

C.3.1.1. Weapon System Component Package

The Contractor shall provide one (1) Weapon System Component Package, for PVT, manufactured to satisfy purchase descriptions AR-PD-177.

 

The Weapon System Component Package shall include the following items:

a) Modular Handgun Systems (Qty 100) (Section C.3.1.2)

b) Ammunition Support Package (See Section C.5.1.1)

c) Contractor Support Package - Adequate supply of spare and repair parts, including barrels and cleaning kits, special tools and gages, as necessary, to support all handguns for the duration of the PVT. Failure to provide adequate supply of spare and repair parts will directly affect the results of the testing.

d) Magazines, Standard (Qty 150)

e) Magazines, Extended (Qty 150)

f) Grip Inserts, Ransom Rest (Qty 3)

g) Holster Sleeve, Right Hand (Section 3.1.3) (Qty 30)

h) Holster Sleeve, Left Hand (Section 3.1.3) (Qty 10)

i) MOLLE Compatible Magazine Pouches (Section 3.1.4) (Qty 60)

j) Non-metallic Coupons for Chemical Compatibility Testing (Section C.3.1.6)

k) MIL-STD Manuals (Section C.3.1.11.2)

l) Instructor and Key Personnel Training (Section C.3.1.7.1.2)

m) Logistics Demonstration (Section C.3.1.7.1.3)

n) Technical Data Package (Section C.3.1.11.5)

 

C.3.1.2. Modular Handgun System

Each MHS shall include the following items:

a) Handgun, Full Size (Qty 1)

b) Magazines, standard (Qty 1)

c) Magazines, extended (Qty 2)

d) Bore Brush (Qty 1)

 

C.3.2.1.1. Compact Modular Handgun System Component Package

The Contractor shall provide one (1) Compact MHS Component Package for Compact PVT manufactured to satisfy purchase descriptions AR-PD-177. The Compact MHS Component Package shall include the following items:

a) Compact Modular Handgun Systems (Qty 75) (Section C.3.2.1.3)

b) Ammunition Support Package, Compact (See Section C.5.2.1.2.1)

c) Contractor Support Package - Adequate supply of spare and repair parts, including barrels and cleaning kits, special tools and gages, as necessary, to support all handguns for the duration of the Compact PVT. Failure to provide adequate supply of spare and repair parts will directly affect the results of the testing.

d) Magazines, Compact (Qty 150)

e) Magazines, Standard (Qty 150)

f) Grip Inserts, Ransom Rest (Qty 3)

g) Holster, Compact, Right Hand (Qty 30)

h) Holster, Compact, Left Hand (Qty 20)

i) Magazine Pouches, Compact (Qty 60) (Section 3.2.1.11)

j) Non-metallic Coupons for Chemical Compatibility Testing (Qty 50) (Section C.3.2.1.15)

k) MIL-STD Manuals (Section C.3.2.12)

l) Instructor and Key Personnel Training (Section C.3.2.4.1.5)

m) Technical Data Packages (Section C.3.2.17)

 

C.3.2.1.3 Modular Handgun System, Compact

The Contractor shall deliver the Compact MHS to the Government. The MHS shall satisfy all the requirements of Purchase Description AR-PD-177. Each MHS, as packaged and delivered, shall include the following items:

a) Handgun, Compact (Qty 1)

b) Magazines, Compact (Qty 1)

c) Magazines, Standard (Qty 2)

d) Bore Brush (Qty 1)

 

C.3.2.1.4. Suppressor Kit

If the XM17 MHS is not capable of accepting a suppressor (i.e.: the handgun does not have a threaded barrel, or the sights may be obscured by a suppressor) the Contractor shall supply a kit that could include a threaded barrel, taller sights, or a slide that incorporates higher sights so that the suppressor kit can be installed by the Operator, without the use of tools. The suppressor kit shall include all necessary hardware to fire the MHS suppressed, not including the suppressor. The Government is not purchasing a suppressor with this kit.

 

C.3.2.1.5. Suppressor Kit, Compact

If the Compact MHS is not capable of accepting a suppressor (i.e.: the handgun does not have a threaded barrel, or the sights may be obscured by a suppressor) the Contractor shall supply a kit that could include a threaded barrel, taller sights, or a slide that incorporates higher sights so that the suppressor kit can be installed by the Operator, without the use of tools. The suppressor kit shall include all necessary hardware to fire the Compact MHS suppressed, not including the suppressor. The Government is not purchasing a suppressor with this kit.

 

C.3.2.1.6. Weapon Conversion Kit for the M1041 Cartridge

The Weapon Conversion Kit will consist of all necessary hardware to fire the MHS with M1041 dye marking rounds.

 

C.3.2.1.7. Weapon Conversion Kit, Compact, for the M1041 Cartridge

The Weapon Conversion Kit will consist of all necessary hardware to fire the Compact MHS with M1041 dye marking rounds.

 

C.3.2.1.8. Weapon Conversion Kit for Blank Cartridge

The Weapon Conversion Kit for the Blank Cartridge will be in accordance with AR-PD-177.

 

C.3.2.1.9. Weapon Conversion Kit, Compact, for Blank Cartridge

The Weapon Conversion Kit for the Blank Cartridge will be in accordance with AR-PD-177.

 

C.3.2.3. Non-Firing MHS

C.3.2.3.1. MHS, Full Size

C.3.2.3.1.1 Demonstration Model

C.3.2.3.1.2 Cut-away

 

C.3.2.3.2. MHS, Compact

C.3.2.3.2.1 Demonstration Model

C.3.2.3.2.2 Cut-away

 

C.5.1.1.1 Ammunition

The following ammunition shall be delivered in accordance to the ammunition Purchase Descriptions listed below:

Cartridge Type | Reference Quantity

Ball Cartridge AR-PD-180 | 300,000

Special Purpose Cartridge AR-PD-179 | 255,000

Ball Cartridge (Mil-Pack) AR_PD-180 | 36,000

Special Purpose Cartridge (Mil-Pack) AR-PD-179 | 36,000

Dummy Cartridge AR-PD-184 | 50

 

C.5.1.1.2. Reference Cartridges

The Contractor shall be responsible for obtaining reference cartridges for calibration of test equipment that will be used for PVT. The Contractor may use any commercially available (SAAMI or equivalent) cartridges to qualify reference cartridges.

Cartridge Type | Reference Quantity

Reference Cartridges (Special Purpose) AR-PD-179 | 1,000

Reference Cartridges (Ball) AR-PD-180 | 1,000

 

C.5.2.1. Production Deliverables

C.5.2.1.1. Ammunition

a) Ammunition, Special Purpose. The Contractor shall provide Special Purpose ammunition, in accordance to AR-PD-179.

b) Ammunition, Ball. The Contractor shall provide Ball ammunition, in accordance to AR-PD-180.

c) Ammunition, Blank. The Contractor shall provide Blank Ammunition in accordance to AR-PD-183.

d) Ammunition, Dummy. The Contractor shall provide Dummy Ammunition in accordance to AR-PD-184.

 

C.5.2.1.2. Test Hardware

a) Ammunition Support Package, Compact (Section 5.2.1.2.1)

b) EPVAT Barrels

c) Accuracy Barrels

d) Profile and Alignment Gage

e) Reference Cartridges (Section 5.2.5.18)

 

C.5.2.1.2.1 Ammunition Support Package, Compact

Cartridge Type | Reference Quantity

Special Purpose Cartridge AR-PD-179 | 300,000

Ball Cartridge AR-PD-180 | 300,000

Reference Cartridge, Special Purpose AR-PD-179 | 1,000

Reference Cartridge, Ball AR-PD-180 | 1,000

Dummy Cartridge AR-PD-184 | 50

 



October 8, 2015 - Modular Handgun System (Request For Proposal - Amendment #1)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2015/10-October/10-Oct-2015/FBO-03918476.htm


 

December 4, 2015 - Modular Handgun System (Request For Proposal - Amendment #2)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2015/12-December/06-Dec-2015/FBO-03961464.htm


 

January 7, 2016 - Modular Handgun System (Request For Proposal - Amendment #3)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2016/01-January/09-Jan-2016/FBO-03985691.htm


 

January 15, 2016 - Modular Handgun System (Request For Proposal - Amendment #4)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2016/01-January/17-Jan-2016/FBO-03993797.htm


 

January 25, 2016 - Modular Handgun System (Request For Proposal - Amendment #5)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2016/01-January/27-Jan-2016/FBO-04000191.htm


 

January 26, 2016 - Modular Handgun System (Request For Proposal - Amendment #5)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2016/01-January/28-Jan-2016/FBO-04001492.htm

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2016/01-January/28-Jan-2016/FBO-04001493.htm


 

January 28, 2016 - Modular Handgun System (Request For Proposal - Amendment #6)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2016/01-January/30-Jan-2016/FBO-04003196.htm


 

February 2, 2016 - Modular Handgun System (Request For Proposal - Amendment #7)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2016/02-February/04-Feb-2016/FBO-04007890.htm


 

August 12, 2016 -  Army Modular Tactical Holster (Sources Sought notice from Army Contracting Command - APG Natick)

http://www.fbodaily.com/archive/2016/08-August/14-Aug-2016/FBO-04221811.htm

 

January 19, 2017 - XM17 Award Notice

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=fb3dfb4ce966d2b1b0e017377b27cc1b&_cview=0

 

 

Wrap-Up:

 

Until next week, have fun and SAFE SHOOTING!!!

 

Handgun Radio 157 - Derringers & Other Small Single Shot Pistols

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad  from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, Weerd and I talk Derringers & Other Small Single Shot Pistols!!!

Brought to you by the Firearms Radio Network

Please check out the Patriot Patch Company for their awesome patches and other high quality items! Visit www.patriotpatch.co for more information!

Shop Amazon using our affiliate link www.firearmsradio.tv/amazon

HELP SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO

“HEY WEERD! IF YOU WANTED TO SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO, HOW WOULD YOU DO IT?!”

Head over to http://firearmsradio.tv/pledge/ and click on HGR.

Week in Review:

-I want a Mossberg Shockwave (MSRP 455.00)

-Serbu GB22   https://youtu.be/nyp9YPlaoow https://gastatic.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/gb-22-frame.jpg

Drink Segment: Another simple tastes segment.   The same day I bought the Evan Williams I talked about last week, I picked up a bottle of Olmeca Altos Tequila .

For those who say “I don’t like tequila”,  make sure you have tried something that says “100% blue agave” on the bottle,   this stuff is NIGHT-and-DAY different from Jose Cuervo or similar, but not too much more expensive in price.

Main Topic: Derringers & Other Small Single Shot Pistols

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derringer

Bond Arms

American Derringer

Wrap-Up:

  • Don’t forget to shop Brownells using our affiliate link! Head to firearmsradio.tv and click the affiliate link in the upper right hand corner!

  • Be sure to go like Handgun Radio on facebook and share it with your friends!

  • Leave us a review on iTunes!

  • Listen to all the great shows on the Firearms Radio Network!Guns of Hollywood

  • Be sure to visit the Firearms Insider for review more awesome content! Also, if you are interested in writing reviews for the Firearms Insider, please email TJ at tj@firearmsradio.tv

  • Be sure to check out the Firearms Radio Network on YouTube!

  • Visit Weerd Beard at  weerdworld.com   sqrpt.com  http://gunblogvarietycast.com/


Until next week, have fun and SAFE SHOOTING!!!

Handgun Radio 156 - SHOT Show 2017

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad  from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, Weerd and I talk with Nathaniel F of the Firearm Blog to discuss what he saw at SHOT Show 2017 and the new products!

Brought to you by the Firearms Radio Network

Please check out the Patriot Patch Company for their awesome patches and other high quality items! Visit www.patriotpatch.co for more information!

Shop Amazon using our affiliate link www.firearmsradio.tv/amazon

HELP SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO

“HEY WEERD! IF YOU WANTED TO SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO, HOW WOULD YOU DO IT?!”

Head over to http://firearmsradio.tv/pledge/ and click on HGR.

Week in Review:

Ryan: -Handled an FN Five Seven, new Browning Buckmark

Weerd:

The Army Chooses SIG Sauer to replace the M9!!!!!

-Why didnt they choose the GLOCK?!

Drink Segment: I’m having a Manhattan, which we’ve talked about before,  but tonight I’m going bourbon rather than my usual rye, and that Bourbon is a recommendation from Ryan is Evan Williams.  REALLY good bourbon, and I must say it’s a better bourbon for less price than my previously recommended Old Grandad
 

Main Topic: SHOT Show 2017

-Hudson H9 Pistol

-Maxim 9 Pistol

- Standard MFG S333 Volleyfire .25 ACP Pepperbox

-CZ P10

-Remington RP9

-Colt Cobra .38 Special

-Kimber K6S

-M&P 2.0 Pistol
 

Wrap Up:

  • Don’t forget to shop Brownells using our affiliate link! Head to firearmsradio.tv and click the affiliate link in the upper right hand corner!

  • Be sure to go like Handgun Radio on facebook and share it with your friends!

  • Leave us a review on iTunes!

  • Listen to all the great shows on the Firearms Radio Network!Guns of Hollywood

  • Be sure to visit the Firearms Insider for review more awesome content! Also, if you are interested in writing reviews for the Firearms Insider, please email TJ at tj@firearmsradio.tv

  • Be sure to check out the Firearms Radio Network on YouTube!

  • Visit Weerd Beard at  weerdworld.com   sqrpt.com  http://gunblogvarietycast.com/

  • Nathaniel, where can people find you??

 

Until next week, have fun and SAFE SHOOTING!!!

 

Handgun Radio 155 - Cartridge Development Part 1

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad  from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, Weerd and I discuss a few popular cartridges and their development histories!!!

Brought to you by the Firearms Radio Network

Please check out the Patriot Patch Company for their awesome patches and other high quality items! Visit www.patriotpatch.co for more information!

Shop Amazon using our affiliate link www.firearmsradio.tv/amazon

HELP SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO

“HEY WEERD! IF YOU WANTED TO SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO, HOW WOULD YOU DO IT?!”

Head over to http://firearmsradio.tv/pledge/ and click on HGR.

Week in Review:

Ryan: -I was on the We Like Shooting show this past week!!! Check it out!!!

-Hudson H9 Pistol

-S&W 986 2.5” 9mm

Weerd: Took a 1911 Derivative to the range yesterday.

Also friend of the Show Sidhartha Priest suggested I get an inexpensive arbor press to press out the frame wedge on my Walker colt.    Seems like a good idea, as it didn’t cost much and no matter what I’d still have a pretty beefy press.    It’s down in the armory, but I haven’t had a chance to assemble it and get cracking.   Maybe this weekend.
 

Drink Segment:  For those with simpler tastes, and those who don’t want to bother with a mixer and multiple ingredients.

So I stopped at the liquor store on the way up to my folk’s place, and I like to grab my dad stuff he’s never had before.    He has VERY limited experience with Scotch,  and I’d heard good things about Monkey Shoulder.     Turns out the stuff is VERY reasonably priced and VERY good.

I need to grab a bottle for myself.
 

Main Topic: Pistol Cartridge Development

Listener Mike:

Hey Ryan and Weerd - great show, as always. Thought I would ask, why don't you look at cartridge development and talk about handgun cartridges. I was thinking as you were talking last show about 38 spl, and the large case compared to the low powder volume. Why is the cases so large? What about others, and what the case size to powder volume is and why.

Early Cartridge Development (Rocketball, .22 Short, etc)

-Rocket Ball

.22 Short

7.65x25mm Borchardt

.38 Special Cartridge:
 

.357 Magnum
 

9mm Parabellum:

.40 S&W

.45 ACP  
 

Wrap Up:

  • Don’t forget to shop Brownells using our affiliate link! Head to firearmsradio.tv and click the affiliate link in the upper right hand corner!

  • Be sure to go like Handgun Radio on facebook and share it with your friends!

  • Leave us a review on iTunes!

  • Listen to all the great shows on the Firearms Radio Network!Guns of Hollywood

  • Be sure to visit the Firearms Insider for review more awesome content! Also, if you are interested in writing reviews for the Firearms Insider, please email TJ at tj@firearmsradio.tv

  • Be sure to check out the Firearms Radio Network on YouTube!

  • Visit Weerd Beard at  weerdworld.com   sqrpt.com  http://gunblogvarietycast.com

 

Handgun Radio 154 - Kabooms & Other Dangerous Firearms Situations

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad  from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, Weerd and I discuss kabooms, malfunctions & other dangerous situations you can encounter with your firearm and how to avoid them!

Brought to you by the Firearms Radio Network

Please check out the Patriot Patch Company for their awesome patches and other high quality items! Visit www.patriotpatch.co for more information!

Shop Amazon using our affiliate link www.firearmsradio.tv/amazon

HELP SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO

“HEY WEERD! IF YOU WANTED TO SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO, HOW WOULD YOU DO IT?!”

Head over to http://firearmsradio.tv/pledge/ and click on HGR.
 

Week in Review:

Ryan: -Volquartsen in .22 Magnum!!!

-Ruger 22/45 Lite Mark IV

-STI 10MM Doublestack  

Weerd:   Went to the range and zeroed a rifle.    Lots of people there of all ages.

Drink Segment:  Drinking a Vesper Cocktail right now, but we’ve talked about that before.

Listener Manuel wanted for me to talk about my other favorite drink: Tea

When I’m on the road, or out to a restaurant,  I drink coffee,  but when I can do it properly I prefer my caffeine to come as tea.

As far as I know there are no domestic tea plantations,  so you’re better off buying from India and China where the plantations  are.

Tea is all essentially the same plant,  just prepared different ways.  Black tea is fermented,  green tea is just blanched and dried.  Several other varieties are partially fermented.

Some of my favorites are Red Label Black Tea from India,  Jasmine and Gunpowder from China, and Sencha and Genmai Cha from Japan.

I simply fill a saucepan with cold water, add a tablespoon or so of loose tea to it, and let it come to a boil,  then turn the heat off and let it sit for about 10 mins or more to steep before straining.

Main Topic: Kabooms, Malfunctions & Other Dangerous firearms situations

Faulty .38 Revolver (Timing Issue)

CZ P07 Kaboom

Squibs

Doublecharges

Round Setback

Improper Ammunition

    -.22 LR vs .22 Mag

    -.380 aka 9mm short vs 9mm Luger

    -.38 ACP vs .38 Super

    -7.62 Tokarev vs 7.63 Mauser

    -.357 Sig Vs .40 S&W

    -12 GA vs 20 GA (shotgun pistol)

Wrap-Up:

  • Don’t forget to shop Brownells using our affiliate link! Head to firearmsradio.tv and click the affiliate link in the upper right hand corner!

  • Be sure to go like Handgun Radio on facebook and share it with your friends!

  • Leave us a review on iTunes!

  • Listen to all the great shows on the Firearms Radio Network!Guns of Hollywood

  • Be sure to visit the Firearms Insider for review more awesome content! Also, if you are interested in writing reviews for the Firearms Insider, please email TJ at tj@firearmsradio.tv

  • Be sure to check out the Firearms Radio Network on YouTube!

  • Visit Weerd Beard at  weerdworld.com   sqrpt.com  http://gunblogvarietycast.com/

Handgun Radio 153 - The SHOT Show 2017 New Product & Speculation Episode!

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad  from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, we are joined by the illustrious Doc Wesson from the Gun Nation Podcast to discuss some of the guns that have been introduced & guns we think may be introduced at the 2017 SHOT Show!

Brought to you by the Firearms Radio Network

Please check out the Patriot Patch Company for their awesome patches and other high quality items! Visit www.patriotpatch.co for more information!

Shop Amazon using our affiliate link www.firearmsradio.tv/amazon

HELP SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO

“HEY WEERD! IF YOU WANTED TO SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO, HOW WOULD YOU DO IT?!”

Head over to http://firearmsradio.tv/pledge/ and click on HGR.

Week in Review:

Ryan: -Helped a friend break in his new Kahr CM9! Worked great!!!

-Really wanting some surplus rifles….Steyr M95, Gewehr 98, Winchester 1907 Self-Loader

Weerd: Renovations to the house are finally done, and we’re moving our stuff back into the house.   This means I didn’t EXACTLY do anything with guns,  but it DOES mean that some of the upgrades to the new room mean the Armory gets some trickle-down in the form of a new Stereo and TV!
Doc:

Drink Segment:  Blood and Sand

https://youtu.be/qtBDL0vlcLE

2oz Blended Scotch Whiskey

1oz Orange Juice

0.5 oz Sweet Vermouth

0.5 oz Cherry Brandy

Orange Bitters

Shake and serve up in a cocktail glass with an orange twist and a cherry.

Main Topic:

Guns Holsters & Gear SHOT 2017 Page

Coonan 9mm, 10mm Pistols

Chiappa White Rhino

Glock 19M

Ruger: GP 100 in .44 Speical

Ruger Redhawk 8-shot .357 Magnum

Remington RP 45

S&W M&P 2.0

Hudson Manufacturing Mystery "1911"?

Wrap-Up:

  • Don’t forget to shop Brownells using our affiliate link! Head to firearmsradio.tv and click the affiliate link in the upper right hand corner!

  • Be sure to go like Handgun Radio on facebook and share it with your friends!

  • Leave us a review on iTunes!

  • Listen to all the great shows on the Firearms Radio Network!Guns of Hollywood

  • Be sure to visit the Firearms Insider for review more awesome content! Also, if you are interested in writing reviews for the Firearms Insider, please email TJ at tj@firearmsradio.tv

  • Be sure to check out the Firearms Radio Network on YouTube!

  • Visit Weerd Beard at  weerdworld.com   sqrpt.com  http://gunblogvarietycast.com/

  • Doc! Thank you so much for joining us! Where can people find you?


Until next week, have fun & safe shooting!!!

 

Handgun Radio 152 - Polymer Pistol Modifications

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad  from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, Weerd & I discuss modifications you might consider making to your polymer pistol!

Brought to you by the Firearms Radio Network

Please check out the Patriot Patch Company for their awesome patches and other high quality items! Visit www.patriotpatch.co for more information!

Shop Amazon using our affiliate link www.firearmsradio.tv/amazon

HELP SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO

“HEY WEERD! IF YOU WANTED TO SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO, HOW WOULD YOU DO IT?!”

Head over to http://firearmsradio.tv/pledge/ and click on HGR.

Starbucks Level - ($5 per month)

Double Starbucks Level - ($10 per month)

Patch of the Month Club - ($20 per month)

Small Swag/Supply Box Level - Ships Every Month! ($40 per month - Free Shipping)

 

Large Swag/Supply Box Level - Ships Every Month! ($80 per month - Free Shipping)

Small Business Level $200 Month

Week in Review:

Ryan: Ruger Mk III Discontinued!!!

-The SPAs Argentinas Full Auto

Ruger SR1911 Target

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/11/29/ruger-sr1911-target/

Drink Segment: Bar Equipment:   Jigger:  You can get a set of double jiggers, which is really classy looking,  but I get a LOT more versatility out of a graduated jigger.

Shaker:  Traditionally we use a Boston Shaker which is the pint glass with a metal cup.   I prefer a Cobbler shaker, which is a metal cup with a cap and attached strainer.

Strainer: If you use the boston shaker, or use a mixing glass for stirred drinks, you’ll need a strainer.   A Hawthorn Strainer is the metal spring that is most common,  but a Julep strainer which is just an oversized metal spoon will win you some style points.

Bar Spoon: Something I don’t have, but they’re really handy.   Of course you use them to stir your drink,  but you can also measure ingredients and even muddle with them.

Main Topic: Modifiying Your Polymer Pistol

http://www.cylinder-slide.com/index.php?app=ccp0&ns=prodshow&ref=915

https://robarguns.com/custom-weapons/handguns/kahr/

https://robarguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/1911-two-tone-roguard-and-NP3.jpg

https://robarguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Poly-T2.png

Boresight Solutions Facebook

http://www.boresightsolutions.com/

 

Stippling

Trigger Modifications

Magwells

Slide Modifications

Wrap-Up:

  • Don’t forget to shop Brownells using our affiliate link! Head to firearmsradio.tv and click the affiliate link in the upper right hand corner!

  • Be sure to go like Handgun Radio on facebook and share it with your friends!

  • Leave us a review on iTunes!

  • Listen to all the great shows on the Firearms Radio Network!Guns of Hollywood

  • Be sure to visit the Firearms Insider for review more awesome content! Also, if you are interested in writing reviews for the Firearms Insider, please email TJ at tj@firearmsradio.tv

  • Be sure to check out the Firearms Radio Network on YouTube!

  • Visit Weerd Beard at  weerdworld.com   sqrpt.com  http://gunblogvarietycast.com/


Until next week, have fun & safe shooting!!!

 

 

Handgun Radio 151 - Handgunners Christmas Gift Guide 2016

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad  from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, we discuss gifts for the handgunner in your life, as well as some listener emails!

Brought to you by the Firearms Radio Network

Please check out the Patriot Patch Company for their awesome patches and other high quality items! Visit www.patriotpatch.co for more information!

Shop Amazon using our affiliate link www.firearmsradio.tv/amazon

HELP SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO

“HEY WEERD! IF YOU WANTED TO SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO, HOW WOULD YOU DO IT?!”

Head over to http://firearmsradio.tv/pledge/ and click on HGR.

Starbucks Level - ($5 per month)

Double Starbucks Level - ($10 per month)

Patch of the Month Club - ($20 per month)

Small Swag/Supply Box Level - Ships Every Month! ($40 per month - Free Shipping)

Large Swag/Supply Box Level - Ships Every Month! ($80 per month - Free Shipping)

Small Business Level $200 Month

Drink Segment Let’s talk Glass!   Here are some glasses that will serve your home bar right.

Pint Glass:   This is your go-to beer glass,  you can also use it to mix highballs

Collins Glass:   A little smaller than a pint with straight sides.    This will be the traditional highball

Rocks Glass:   It’s like a collins glass cut in half,  tho often much wider.   Good for sipping spirits, or mixing lowball cocktails.

Cocktail Glass: My personal favorite,  a must for any cocktail served straight up.

Snifter: This is one you don’t hear much about.   It’s a bell-shaped glass with a small foot,  and it’s designed to drink spirits neat.  The shape of the mouth means your nose goes into the glass and it really intensifies the aromas.    This is a must for those who like sipping good scotch or bourbon.

Listener Emails:

Name: Kaleb

Message: Hello gentlemen,

The revolver in question is being imported by century arms and is called an Astra Police Revolver. I am unfamiliar with these guns and I am having some trouble finding information on them and hoped you could help with you vast knowledge.

I am interested in these revolvers as a sidearm for camping, hiking, and fishing here in southern Illinois. Basically, something I don't mind getting beat up, scratched, and maybe accidentally put in the mud of a fishing bank (there is a funny story behind that concern). However something that will go bang against a snake or rabid coon or possum. Any information would be helpful.

Thanks for your assistance and the wonderful show.

Thanks, Kaleb

================================================================

Astra Revolvers on the High Road

================================================================

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll--DXOWPyA

New comment from Hesperus Enfield on Handgun Radio 150 - Cabelas Gun Library Trip & James Bonds Handguns:

The Ruger Super RedHawk variant you are looking for is called the Toklat. A local shop has one.

Also, I carry a Steyr M9. It's a very good gun. Sorry it's not a beretta 9000

Main Topic: 2016 Handgunners Christmas Gift Guide:

Ryan’s Picks:

AMMO!

.357 Magnum Tula 1000 Rounds

9mm Para Tula 1000 rounds

Desantis Nemesis Holster

Magazines

(if you know what they use) reloading components

Patriot Patch Company T-Shirts & Patches

Condor Tactical Summit Jacket

RPS Tactical Holster (Gift Certificate)

Weer’ds Picks:

Beretta 9000….hey they’re cheap!!!

Ear-Pro Sonic Defenders

Tetra Gun Grease

Erik’s Picks:

Streamlight Protac 1L-1A

Tourniquet RATS

WLS IFAK Kit

Wrap-Up:

  • Don’t forget to shop Brownells using our affiliate link! Head to firearmsradio.tv and click the affiliate link in the upper right hand corner!

  • Be sure to go like Handgun Radio on facebook and share it with your friends!

  • Leave us a review on iTunes!

  • Listen to all the great shows on the Firearms Radio Network!Guns of Hollywood

  • Be sure to visit the Firearms Insider for review more awesome content! Also, if you are interested in writing reviews for the Firearms Insider, please email TJ at tj@firearmsradio.tv

  • Be sure to check out the Firearms Radio Network on YouTube!

  • Visit Weerd Beard at  weerdworld.com   sqrpt.com  http://gunblogvarietycast.com/


Until next week, have fun & safe shooting!!!

 

Handgun Radio 150 - Cabelas Gun Library Trip & James Bonds Handguns

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad  from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week we discuss the guns that we saw on our Cabelas trip, some listener emails, and the guns used by James Bond!

Brought to you by the Firearms Radio Network

Please check out the Patriot Patch Company for their awesome patches and other high quality items! Visit www.patriotpatch.co for more information!

Shop Amazon using our affiliate link www.firearmsradio.tv/amazon

HELP SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO

“HEY WEERD! IF YOU WANTED TO SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO, HOW WOULD YOU DO IT?!”

Head over to http://firearmsradio.tv/pledge/ and click on HGR.

Starbucks Level - ($5 per month)

Double Starbucks Level - ($10 per month)

Patch of the Month Club - ($20 per month)

Small Swag/Supply Box Level - Ships Every Month! ($40 per month - Free Shipping)

Large Swag/Supply Box Level - Ships Every Month! ($80 per month - Free Shipping)

Small Business Level $200 Month

Drink Segment: Hanky Panky

2oz Gin

1oz Sweet Vermouth

A few dashes of Fernet Branca

Listener Email:

Heard you mention you are interested in a 22lr DA revolver. Of course, the 617 is fantastic, & if you like a smaller gun, that LCR is wonderful.

I've had a chance to handle 2 & shoot 1 of these Alfa Proj revolvers from the Czech Repunlic. CzechPoint is importing them. (They aren't made by CZ.)

In that almost useless sample size, I was very impressed. The guns don't have the fit & finish of a Ruger, but they did *seem* to be quite sturdy & well made.

After playing with 1 in 357, i looked online & they have 4" & 6" 22lr models for $299.

There isn't a lot of info on these, but it seems the consensus is they work well, but are a little rough around the edges.

https://www.czechpoint-usa.com/22-lr

http://calibremag.ca/alfa-proj-revolvers-reviewed/

Anyway, Thanks again for the great podcast!

Main Topic: Cabelas Trip & James Bond Guns

So this past week Weerd & I met up at Cabelas and checked out a bunch of guns:

Webley & Scott 1907 .25 ACP

S&W 40 Tactical TSW

Ruger Single Six Bisley .32 H&R Magnum

H&R Self Loading Pistol

Para Tac Four LDA

H&R USRA .22 LR

Colt 3-5-7 Target

Beretta 9000 .40

S&W Escort Model 61

Webley Mark IV

James Bond Guns: http://jamesbond.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_firearms

Wrap-Up:

  • Don’t forget to shop Brownells using our affiliate link! Head to firearmsradio.tv and click the affiliate link in the upper right hand corner!

  • Be sure to go like Handgun Radio on facebook and share it with your friends!

  • Leave us a review on iTunes!

  • Listen to all the great shows on the Firearms Radio Network!Guns of Hollywood

  • Be sure to visit the Firearms Insider for review more awesome content! Also, if you are interested in writing reviews for the Firearms Insider, please email TJ at tj@firearmsradio.tv

  • Be sure to check out the Firearms Radio Network on YouTube!

  • Visit Weerd Beard at  weerdworld.com   sqrpt.com  http://gunblogvarietycast.com/


Until next week, have fun & safe shooting!!!

 

 

 

Handgun Radio 149 - New Derringers, Howdah Pistols & Reloading Talk

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, Weerd and I discuss the new Inland Derringers, the Pedersoli Howdah pistol, reloading tips & tricks & more!

Brought to you by the Firearms Radio Network

Please check out the Patriot Patch Company for their awesome patches and other high quality items! Visit www.patriotpatch.co for more information!

Shop Amazon using our affiliate link www.firearmsradio.tv/amazon

HELP SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO

“HEY WEERD! IF YOU WANTED TO SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO, HOW WOULD YOU DO IT?!”

Head over to http://firearmsradio.tv/pledge/ and click on HGR.

Starbucks Level - ($5 per month)

Double Starbucks Level - ($10 per month)

Patch of the Month Club - ($20 per month)

Small Swag/Supply Box Level - Ships Every Month! ($40 per month - Free Shipping)

Large Swag/Supply Box Level - Ships Every Month! ($80 per month - Free Shipping)

Small Business Level $200 Month

Week in Review:

Ryan: Nothing! Well, reloaded. CB Bullets in Gorham, ME

Weerd: Not a thing.

Drink Segment:  Big Chief : http://www.weerdworld.com/2016/just-made-one-of-these/

2oz Wild Turkey Bourbon

0.5oz Red Vermouth

0.5oz Amaro Montenegro

A few dashes of Orange Bitters.

Very Reminiscent of a Manhattan, but a little softer and more fruity.

Main Topic: Derringers, Howdah Pistols & Reloading Tips

Inland Mfg Derringer

Pedersoli Howdah Pistol

Reloading Topics:

Check out the Reloading Podcast for more detailed in-depth discussions!

-Checking your charges after in a load tray

-Making sure your scale is properly calibrated & on level surface

-Choosing good powders for your application and knowing them

Listener Bob:

“Hi Guys, love the show. I’ve been looking for an inexpensive defensive pistol, and I have thought about using a surplus or C&R type pistol since they seem to be somewhat inexpensive and sometimes do shoot substantial calibers. What are your thoughts on this?”

Wrap-Up:

  • Don’t forget to shop Brownells using our affiliate link! Head to firearmsradio.tv and click the affiliate link in the upper right hand corner!

  • Be sure to go like Handgun Radio on facebook and share it with your friends!

  • Leave us a review on iTunes!

  • Listen to all the great shows on the Firearms Radio Network!Guns of Hollywood

  • Be sure to visit the Firearms Insider for review more awesome content! Also, if you are interested in writing reviews for the Firearms Insider, please email TJ at tj@firearmsradio.tv

  • Be sure to check out the Firearms Radio Network on YouTube!

  • Visit Weerd Beard at  weerdworld.com   sqrpt.com  http://gunblogvarietycast.com/


Until next week, have fun & safe shooting!!!

 

Handgun Radio 148 - Future Handgun Purchases and UBC Fails in Maine

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, we discuss the defeat of Question 3 in Maine, Some handguns we want to buy in the next year & more!!!

Brought to you by the Firearms Radio Network

Please check out the Patriot Patch Company for their awesome patches and other high quality items! Visit www.patriotpatch.co for more information!

HELP SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO

Head over to http://firearmsradio.tv/pledge/ and click on HGR.

Starbucks Level - ($5 per month)

Double Starbucks Level - ($10 per month)

Patch of the Month Club - ($20 per month)

Small Swag/Supply Box Level - Ships Every Month! ($40 per month - Free Shipping)

Large Swag/Supply Box Level - Ships Every Month! ($80 per month - Free Shipping

Small Business Level $200 Mont

Week in Review

Ryan: Got my Condor Tactical Jacket

Weerd:

Drink Segment:  Manhattan!  WOOOO!

4parts Rye Whiskey (bourbon is fine)

1 part Sweet Vermouth

A few dashes of Angostura Bitters  and Maraschino Cherries

Main Topic: Question 3 in Maine, Future Purchases & more!!!

Question 3 Fails

A difference of 30,545

Future Purchases:

Ryan:

-Glock 19

-.22 LR Revolver Double Action

-LCPII

Battlefield 1 Weapons

Listener Emails:

Blake

Subject: Budget Revolver for Home Defense

Message: Guys, love the podcast. I need some help deciding on a gun for Home Defense and have made the decision on a revolver but want to stay under $400. New revolvers that I know in that range will only be Taurus 65, 82 or something even cheaper like the Armscor M200. There are a ton of used revolvers I could consider but I just don't know enough about them to pick. I think I would prefer a 3-4" barrel and nothing too light to manage the recoil. What would you guys recommend??

Name: Josh

Subject: Show topic

Message: I really enjoyed the show about handgun hunting. It inspired me to pick up an older Ruger Super Blackhawk in 44 mag. Now I am looking at bullets to hand load my own hunting rounds, and it brings up a question about selecting an appropriate bullet type. What bullet type for handgun hunting? I know in self defense you want a hollow point that will not over penetrate, but does this hold true for hunting as well. I know solid lead is ok in slow moving rifle calibers, but what about magnum pistol calibers? I think this would be interesting to others switching from rifle to handgun like me.

I also am enjoying the drink segment from WB. The tequila and grapefruit soda drink is much better than margaritas, and one of my new favorites in the summer. Although it still doesn't beat out Buffalo Trace on the rocks.

Keep up the good work on the podcast.

Wrap-Up:

  • Don’t forget to shop Brownells using our affiliate link! Head to firearmsradio.tv and click the affiliate link in the upper right hand corner!

  • Be sure to go like Handgun Radio on facebook and share it with your friends!

  • Leave us a review on iTunes!

  • Listen to all the great shows on the Firearms Radio Network!Guns of Hollywood

  • Be sure to visit the Firearms Insider for review more awesome content! Also, if you are interested in writing reviews for the Firearms Insider, please email TJ at tj@firearmsradio.tv

  • Be sure to check out the Firearms Radio Network on YouTube!

  • Visit Weerd Beard at  weerdworld.com   sqrpt.com  http://gunblogvarietycast.com/


Until next week, have fun & safe shooting!!!

 

 

 

Handgun Radio 147 - New Handgun Introductions & Listener Emails

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, Weerd and I discuss some new pistol introductions and Listener Emails

Brought to you by the Firearms Radio Network

Please check out the Patriot Patch Company for their awesome patches and other high quality items! Visit www.patriotpatch.co for more information!

HELP SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO

Head over to http://firearmsradio.tv/pledge/ and click on HGR.

Starbucks Level - ($5 per month)

Double Starbucks Level - ($10 per month)

Patch of the Month Club - ($20 per month)

Small Swag/Supply Box Level - Ships Every Month! ($40 per month - Free Shipping)

Large Swag/Supply Box Level - Ships Every Month! ($80 per month - Free Shipping)

Small Business Level $200 Month

Week in Review:

-Checked out a Steyr S40-A1 at the shop! Always a nice trigger as usual!

-Handled a new R51…..feels pretty much the same except a few improvements.

Weerd:  Well I have all 6 replacement nipples for my walker….and I have a wife with pneumonia...guess what I did this week?

Drink Segment: This is one we haven’t mentioned,  the Hemingway Daiquiri!

My version is a bit different than the one listed.

2oz of Gold Rum,  White rum just doesn’t work

0.5 Oz of Lime Juice

¾ Grapefurit juice

And this listing calls for a quarter ounce of luxardo, and a quarter ounce of simple syrup,  I just use a Half-ounce of the Luxardo because that stuff is so good.

I also add a few dashes of orange bitters, because that stuff and rum is like peanut butter and chocolate.

Garnish with a Side-by-side 12 gauge…..or maybe not….

Buffer Music:

The Jefftones playing “Come When I Call” and “You Can Call Me Al” Live at Silver Street Tavern.

Main Topic: New Handgun Introductions & Listener Emails

Remington RP 9 & 45

Walther Creed

http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/2016/10/26/walther-creed/

The Saint

Listener Emails:

Listener Jim:

Love the show and think I've listened to every episode. Great guests and information, especially liked Massad Ayoob interview and the gun writes episodes. Was curious if you have ever looked at sneaky pete holsters? I really like mine just curious of your opinion? Tell Weerd he's not the youngest to carry a 1911 that's my choice for winter carry and I'm 34.

Listener James from Australia:

A big Hello to Ryan and Weerd from Australia!

I am a firearms and hunting enthusiast obviously and listening to up to date conversations on firearms issues from Americans is quite eye opening in comparison to what we have here in Australia. I don't know what your knowledge of Australian firearms laws are but I tend to hear a bit (not necessarily from FRN) that a lot of people in the US actually think we here banned guns. Quite far from the truth. Although we are heavily restricted. Maybe a quick rundown is in order. I'm in the state of NSW, and they all vary slightly, but for the most part are the same since the NFA or national firearms agreement came in after the 1996 Port Arthur massacre. From what I hear, California would possibly be the closest comparison to our laws?

So anyone can get a licence if you have a clean record. You need a genuine reason, which is normally fulfilled by having joined a hunting club, target shooting club, or having permission to hunt private property, or owning rural land. We have public land hunting in the states of New South Wales and Victoria only. All guns have to be registered, even air rifles and paintball guns. Airsoft is not permitted.

Category A - Is all your air rifles (including semi auto), rim fire rifles (not semi auto) and shotguns (sxs, under over, single shot and lever action)

Category B - Is centrefire rifles (not including semi auto) and muzzle loaders.

Category A and B are the most commonly held licences

Category C - Is restricted to primary producers (farmers) and contract shooters. This is basically semi auto rimfires, and pump and semi auto shotguns up to 5 mag capacity

Category D - Is pretty much restricted to contract shooters and is pretty hard to get a hold of. This is your Semi auto centrefires and pump and auto shotties with a mag capacity of more than 5

Category H - Is for handguns, and they a fairly heavily regulated. Permits are generally only issued for sports/target shooting.

There is a category for collectors and a category R for stuff like machine guns but it's unheard of that someone has that. Suppressors are very naughty too by the way.

Email from John610:

Ryan, Weerd,

First off, thanks for Handgun Radio. I really enjoy it. I heard you guys talking on a recent episode about the S&W 610. I purchased a used 610 about a year ago. If memory serves, it's a no-dash model.

My 610 does have steps in the cylinder to headspace a 10mm round without the moon clips. Of course it does need moon clips to headspace .40 S&W properly. Here are a couple of pictures

The second photo has a .40 round in the 12:00 position and a 10mm in the 6:00 position. (For bonus points, this illustrates the difference in primer size between .40 and 10mm.)

FWIW, it's a sweet gun. It's very accurate and lots of fun to shoot. I need to un-Bubba a Bubba trigger job from a prior owner, but I did check to see if I could push it off the single-action sear, and I can't, so that's good. Thanks for the tip on that.

Thanks again for the show!

Wrap-Up:

  • Don’t forget to shop Brownells using our affiliate link! Head to firearmsradio.tv and click the affiliate link in the upper right hand corner!

  • Be sure to go like Handgun Radio on facebook and share it with your friends!

  • Leave us a review on iTunes!

  • Listen to all the great shows on the Firearms Radio Network!Guns of Hollywood

  • Be sure to visit the Firearms Insider for review more awesome content! Also, if you are interested in writing reviews for the Firearms Insider, please email TJ at tj@firearmsradio.tv

  • Be sure to check out the Firearms Radio Network on YouTube!

  • Visit Weerd Beard at  weerdworld.com   sqrpt.com  http://gunblogvarietycast.com/


Until next week, have fun & safe shooting!!!

 

Handgun Radio 146 - Howell's Indoor Range & Gunshop Grand Opening Weekend with Tatiana Whitlock

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, I recorded live on location at Howell’s Gun Shop and Indoor Range in Gray, Maine with Tatiana Whitlock and Adam Copp. We discussed the range and retail shop and what it takes to construct a modern state of the art indoor range!

Brought to you by the Firearms Radio Network

Please check out the Patriot Patch Company for their awesome patches and other high quality items! Visit www.patriotpatch.co for more information!

HELP SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO

Head over to http://firearmsradio.tv/pledge/ and click on HGR.

Starbucks Level - ($5 per month)

Double Starbucks Level - ($10 per month

Patch of the Month Club - ($20 per month)

Small Swag/Supply Box Level - Ships Every Month! ($40 per month - Free Shipping)

Large Swag/Supply Box Level - Ships Every Month! ($80 per month - Free Shipping)

Small Business Level $200 Month

Week in Review:

Just a quick update on the North American Arms Mini Revolver: A friend was kind enough to send me a set of the Laserlyte Lasergrips for the .22 Magnum Mini revolvers. They work fantastic and I cannot wait to get them sighted in. Thank you very much to the person that sent them in to me. They really do make the Mini revolver a viable gun beyond the close in distances that you usually think of with these little revolvers.

The buffer music this week are clips from videos that I do for a local music shop. The owner, Doug, is playing a Stratocaster with P90 pickups. The second buffer music is Doug playing a standard Telecaster.

Main Topic: Howells Gun Shop Grand Opening Weekend Tour & Range Tour

Howells Guns Offical Website

Our Video Tour & Discussion of the Range

Tatiana Whitlock

Wrap-Up:

  • Don’t forget to shop Brownells using our affiliate link! Head to firearmsradio.tv and click the affiliate link in the upper right hand corner!

  • Be sure to go like Handgun Radio on facebook and share it with your friends!

  • Leave us a review on iTunes!

  • Listen to all the great shows on the Firearms Radio Network!Guns of Hollywood

  • Be sure to visit the Firearms Insider for review more awesome content! Also, if you are interested in writing reviews for the Firearms Insider, please email TJ at tj@firearmsradio.tv

  • Be sure to check out the Firearms Radio Network on YouTube!

  • Visit Weerd Beard at  weerdworld.com   sqrpt.com  http://gunblogvarietycast.com/


Until next week, have fun & safe shooting!!!

 

 

Handgun Radio 145 - Mouseguns & "Overrated" Carry Guns

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, Weerd and I discuss mouseguns  & “Overrated” carry guns!

Brought to you by the Firearms Radio Network

Please check out the Patriot Patch Company for their awesome patches and other high quality items! Visit www.patriotpatch.co for more information!

HELP SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO

Head over to http://firearmsradio.tv/pledge/ and click on HGR.

Starbucks Level - ($5 per month)

Double Starbucks Level - ($10 per month)

Patch of the Month Club - ($20 per month)

Small Swag/Supply Box Level - Ships Every Month! ($40 per month - Free Shipping)

Large Swag/Supply Box Level - Ships Every Month! ($80 per month - Free Shipping)

Small Business Level $200 Month

Week in Review:

Ryan:

-Did a video on the new Ruger LCP II which we will be talking about.

-Picked up the .22 Magnum North American Arms Mini Revolver

-Sighted in a friends daughters .22 Magnum rifle this morning.

Weerd: My daughter had her 3rd Birthday party this weekend,  so after a LOOONG day of cleaning and getting the house ready I NEEDED to hit the range.

I recently got an order from Midway USA they delivered a Beretta 21A magazine,  something for a future project and FOUR Walker Colt nipples….two on backorder...c’mon Midway,  why wouldn’t you have a full set in stock???

Turns out my issues with my Beretta 21A were likely magazine related and it ran like a top.

I also brought out my SKS because I haven’t shot a rifle in ages and I have a ton of 7.62x39.    I was a bit out of shape at the start but by the end my groups were about as good as you could expect from an SKS.

Drink Segment:  Not sure if I did this before, but since Ryan forgot what was in it.

Rye or Bourbon  Rye is traditional, and what I prefer, but bourbon is always awesome.   Then mix it 4-1 with sweet vermouth and a few dashes of angostura bitters.

Main Topic: Mouseguns, Overrated Carry Guns & Hunting Season!

Mouseguns: What is a Mouse gun?

Some define them as really small guns in small calibers, generally .380 Auto or smaller,   but personally I consider any gun that can be easily dropped in a pocket with a holster a “mouse gun”,  this generally means anything that’s the size of a S&W J-Frame or smaller.

North American Arms:

Mini Revolver .22 LR/.22 Magnum (even in .17 HMR)

Sidewinder

Ranger (Top Break)

Others:

Beretta 21A

Beretta Tomcat .32 ACP

Ruger LCP & LCP II

Overrated Carry Guns:

Glock 19

Revolvers

Kel-Tecs

German Handguns, in particular, Walther and HK

The 1911
 

Wrap-Up:

  • Don’t forget to shop Brownells using our affiliate link! Head to firearmsradio.tv and click the affiliate link in the upper right hand corner!

  • Be sure to go like Handgun Radio on facebook and share it with your friends!

  • Leave us a review on iTunes!

  • Listen to all the great shows on the Firearms Radio Network!Guns of Hollywood

  • Be sure to visit the Firearms Insider for review more awesome content! Also, if you are interested in writing reviews for the Firearms Insider, please email TJ at tj@firearmsradio.tv

  • Be sure to check out the Firearms Radio Network on YouTube!

  • Visit Weerd Beard at  weerdworld.com   sqrpt.com  http://gunblogvarietycast.com/



Until next week, have fun & safe shooting!!!

 

Handgun Radio 144 - Live Handgun Hunting Roundtable with Bayside Custom & Friends

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

 

This week, we are joined by Chris from Bayside Custom Gunworks at Collins Low Country Hunt Club along with his hunting companions LIVE from the Deer Hog & Steel Annual Handgun Hunt!

 

Brought to you by the Firearms Radio Network

Please check out the Patriot Patch Company for their awesome patches and other high quality items! Visit www.patriotpatch.co for more information!

HELP SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO

Head over to http://firearmsradio.tv/pledge/ and click on HGR.

 

Starbucks Level - ($5 per month)

 

Double Starbucks Level - ($10 per month)

 

Patch of the Month Club - ($20 per month)

 

Small Swag/Supply Box Level - Ships Every Month! ($40 per month - Free Shipping)

 

Large Swag/Supply Box Level - Ships Every Month! ($80 per month - Free Shipping)

 

Small Business Level $200 Month

 

Main Topic: Roundtable Discussion at the Deer, Hog and Steel Annual Handgun Hunt

 

BE SURE TO GO LIKE THE DEER, HOG & STEEL HANDGUN HUNT FACEBOOK PAGE!

There are all the pictures from the hunt over on the facebook page! 

Chris from Bayside Custom Gunworks at Collins Low Country Hunt Club along with his hunting companions LIVE from the Deer Hog & Steel Annual Handgun Hunt! Ernie Bishop, Logan Lampman & Tom Collins

 

Welcome everybody, please, each of you take a second to introduce yourselves!

 

What is the Deer, Hog & Steel Annual Handgun Hunt?

 

For people who don’t know, are group hunts a common thing?

 

Chris, I know you said the hunt had some sponsors, can you tell us more about them?

 

What things do you have to take into consideration when doing a group hunt?

Tom; What do you do on the hunt?

Types of hunting

Explain:
Deer


Turkey

Hogs

Question for everyone:  What got you all into handgun hunting vs traditional rifles.

Question For Ernie: “What's the farthest you have harvested game with a specialty pistol and handgun.”
 

The same question as above, but for each hunter:
What gun
What caliber
What bullet

Ernie: How hard is it to shoot a specialty pistol vs a rifle

Youth hunter:

“I believe Chris told me this is one of your first handgun hunts. How did you feel about it going in and how did your expectations compare to what you experienced?”

Handguns of the Hunt.


Wheelguns

Autos

Break actions

Bolt actions

Wrap-Up:

 

Until next week, have fun and safe shooting!

 

Handgun Radio 143 - Korth Revolvers & Nighthawk Custom with Grant Cunningham

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, Weerd and I are joined by Grant Cunnningham, author & instructor, to discuss the new Korth revolvers being sold in partnership with Nighthawk Custom!

Brought to you by the Firearms Radio Network

Please check out the Patriot Patch Company for their awesome patches and other high quality items! Visit www.patriotpatch.co for more information!

HELP SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO

Head over to http://firearmsradio.tv/pledge/ and click on HGR.

Starbucks Level - ($5 per month)

Double Starbucks Level - ($10 per month)

Patch of the Month Club - ($20 per month)

Small Swag/Supply Box Level - Ships Every Month! ($40 per month - Free Shipping)

Large Swag/Supply Box Level - Ships Every Month! ($80 per month - Free Shipping)

Small Business Level $200 Month

Week in Review:

Ryan: -Went out and shot the Heritage Rough Rider 22 Magnum. I think it needs a new mainspring and a good cleaning. The hammer falls pretty slowly and I get quite a few failures to fire.

-Checked out some cool guns at the Cabelas Gun Library! The Infamous Stipple Trigger Glock is still there as well!!

Grant:
 

Weerd:  Got the woes settled for Megatron, my Walther P38.   Turns out it was the magazine,  and the Pro-Mag reproduction functioned BEAUTIFULLY!  No malfunctions at all….but the sights were about 10 inches low at 15 yards….oh well, it’s a collector’s piece, not a target gun.

Drink Segment: Order of Operations.   Just like in Math class, there should be an order you do things when mixing a drink.   The big reason for this is if you get distracted or need to attend to something else, you can pick up where you left off with no sacrifice.

Some people do a very good method which is start with the least expensive component first, and work up to most expensive,  that way if you make an mistake you don’t throw out anything spendy.

I personally like to start with the most vicious ingredient, and thinnest last.   This is so the jigger gets washed out and doesn’t leave any residue behind.

Either one works,  but the important part is ice the drink LAST.    You don’t want to get called away with ice in your shaker diluting your drink.

BTW I have a similar technique when I’m reloading, because I’ve NEVER done a full reloading session without SOMEBODY interrupting me.

Listener Email:

So something came up in a comedy show I was watching that actually got me thinking (the point of all good comedy) and I turn to you chaps for answers:

In a classic night-time situation when considering a situation you are forced to use your handgun defensively, how does report and muzzleflash affect your choice of calibre? I imagine if you're Weerd Beard and you whip out your 1911 in one hand and your 357 snub in the other ;) you should plan for some extensive ear-drum surgery.

Explanations, considerations gents?

Buffer Music:

Selection 1: “Change The World” performed by Ryan & patrick

Selection 2: My guitar solo during “Blue On Black” at a live performance.

Main Topic: Korth Revolvers with Grant Cunningham

Grant, when where you first exposed to Korth?

What did Korth do with revolvers that set them apart from other large manufacturers of revolvers?

It seems like there is a tradition of fine revolver manufacture over in Europe as well, with Manhurin and Korth. Was Europe as “revolver heavy” as we think it is?

How did you become involved with the Korth revolvers that are offered through Nighthawk Custom?

What are the different models?

What are the different features of each model?

Wrap-Up:

  • Don’t forget to shop Brownells using our affiliate link! Head to firearmsradio.tv and click the affiliate link in the upper right hand corner!

  • Be sure to go like Handgun Radio on facebook and share it with your friends!

  • Leave us a review on iTunes!

  • Listen to all the great shows on the Firearms Radio Network!Guns of Hollywood

  • Be sure to visit the Firearms Insider for review more awesome content! Also, if you are interested in writing reviews for the Firearms Insider, please email TJ at tj@firearmsradio.tv

  • Be sure to check out the Firearms Radio Network on YouTube!

  • Visit Weerd Beard at  weerdworld.com   sqrpt.com  http://gunblogvarietycast.com/

  • Grant, where can people find you? www.grantcunningham.com www.personalsecurity.us


Until next week, have fun & safe shooting!!!

Handgun Radio 142 - History of the Double Action Revolver with Bill Bell

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, we’re joined by Bill “LaVista” Bell, to discuss early double action revolvers and how we got to the guns we know today!

Brought to you by the Firearms Radio Network

Please check out the Patriot Patch Company for their awesome patches and other high quality items! Visit www.patriotpatch.co for more information!

HELP SUPPORT HANDGUN RADIO

Head over to http://firearmsradio.tv/pledge/ and click on HGR.

Starbucks Level - ($5 per month)

Double Starbucks Level - ($10 per month)

Patch of the Month Club - ($20 per month)

Small Swag/Supply Box Level - Ships Every Month! ($40 per month - Free Shipping)

Large Swag/Supply Box Level - Ships Every Month! ($80 per month - Free Shipping)

Small Business Level $200 Month

Week in Review:

Ryan: - Went up to the shop and tried to see if I could find a North American Arms .22 Mag. They are on backorder right now!

-Ordered a case of 1000 rounds Tula 9mm 115 grain from Lucky Gunner for $183 with shipping. Not a bad deal!

- Saw a beautiful Model 19-3 that was Mint condition in the shop. Really nice handgun. My 19 has holster wear, this one had the box and all papers and basically looked new from the factory.


Bill:  

  • This past week I’ve been reloading the .38 S&W cartridge.  I have some vintage Colt and S&W revolvers I’ve been wanting to shoot more, so I made some low-pressure handloads to use in them.  

  • I also received some 240 gr. SWC bullets to make handloads for my new (to me) S&W Model 1926 revolver in .44 Special (AKA) the .44 Hand Ejector, 3rd Model.  This is a post-war, transitional model and somewhat rare, so I want to shoot fairly moderate loads thru it - something about equal to factory ammo.

  • I’ve also been working on an article about revolver speedloaders for a new magazine from Athlon Media Group/Outdoors called THE COMPLETE BOOK OF REVOLVERS.                           

Weerd:

Didn’t manage to go shooting...unless you count my Bug-a-Salt, in which case there are a LOT less flies in the world.

Ordered a new P38 Magazine from Midway USA,  I went with the Pro Mag reproduction, and at least for my post-war commercial P38 with the Aluminum frame, the mag appears to fit fine, and it locks the slide back.   I’ll let you all know when I take it to the range.

Also when buying that magazine, I looked through Midway’s Clearance section and found a PM45 magazine for a VERY reasonable price, so that came too.

Jordan: Hey all. I figured I’d hop in. I just happened to be at Dad’s and figured I’d help out on the technical end! Hard to pass up getting to pal around with Ryan and Weerd!

  • I’ve been reading up on various calibers. Mostly 44 variants. I started on 44 special since I am interested in doing some testing with that in the future and then managed to find my way into 44-40 territory. I hate to admit it, but I never realized 44-40 wasn't straight walled. Wiki surfing is fun.

  • I picked up a new defensive 44spl load recently , that's what got me interested in doing some testing soon. You'd be surprised at the lack of good video coverage of this excellent caliber there is out there.

  • Ballistics gel is a racket, those prices wow. I need to learn to make it cheaper or I'll just shoot jugs of water! I could build a Fackler box like Dad used to use. He had this homemade Fackler box he tested with all the time when I was a kid so I know that is an option.

Drink Segment: So I went and did something I said I’d never do.

I made simple syrup for cocktails.     I originally said I wouldn’t do it because it’s just sugar water, and I’d rather use more complex syrups or liqueurs to give sweetness AND flavor.

Only there are times when there just isn’t anything else that will do.    Yes you can put a teaspoon of sugar over your mint in a mint julep,  but those sugar grains don’t fully dissolve, and they make a mess!

Also I was surprised to find the taste a little different than just sugar,  possibly because some of the sugar bonds mights be broken by heat.

You simply make it by putting 1 part sugar, in 1 part water.     I simply did a half-cup of each for my first batch.    Bring the water to a boil and stir,  then  remove the heat and let it cool.

The sugar will remain in solution even when cold,  and now will quickly dissolve in your cocktails.

Music Selection This Week:

1st Interlude: “Folsom Prison Blues” guitar solo I played from a recent gig.

2nd Interlude: “Feeling Alright” bass solo from a gig with my band the Jefftones

Main Topic: History of the Double Action Revolver with Bill Bell

Bill: I think for the edification of our listeners we should define the term “double-action”.  As it refers to handguns DA might be better called trigger-cocking; as a long pull of the trigger serves to both cock the hammer and then release the sear, allowing the hammer to fly forward striking the firing pin and exploding the cartridge.  “Double” referred to the mechanisms ability to be fired in both the single-action mode - the hammer being manually cocked and the trigger pulled or in the trigger-cocking mode.  Today we have come up with terminology that is not quite correct, that being double-action-only or DAO.  Here the handgun action has altered so that it can only be fired in the trigger-cocking mode.  This was primarily done for reasons of safety by law enforcement as the trigger pull on a handgun in single-action mode is much lighter, thus more prone to accidental discharge in a stressful situation.

What we think of as the double-action revolver was first invented in 1851 by Robert Adams in England and was a cap & ball or percussion revolver using a trigger-cocking mechanism which in the case of revolvers simultaneously cocks the hammer, revolves the cylinder, locks the firing chamber in line with the barrel and releases the hammer, firing the gun.  This went over rather well in Great Britain and was approved by the British Small Arms Committee.  In American the gathering gray clouds of civil war spurred firearms production and in 1856 Ebanezer Starr invented a DA mechanism for a revolver and in 1858 produced the Starr DA .36 caliber Navy revolver and a DA .44 caliber Army revolver.  Both were procured for use by Union troops in the Civil War.  Another early American DA revolver was the Cooper Pocket DA Revolver introduced in 1860.  It looked very similar to the Colt 1849 Pocket Model and was a .31 caliber 5-shooter with a DA mechanism.

Skipping into the realm of self-contained metallic cartridge revolvers, it appears that the first such revolver was produced by Remington in the late 1860’s and was a factory conversion of the Remington-Rider DA revolver to fire .38 RF cartridges.  While S&W held the rights to the Rollin White Patent for bored-thru cylinder revolvers, they stayed with the SA mechanism, while Colt introduced the Model 1877, which was a DA revolver that looked and functioned much like the earlier Peacemaker or SAA.  The Lightning model was made in .38 Long Colt, the Thunderer in .41 Long Colt and during the first year production a rarer version the Rainmaker was made in .32 Colt.  The revolver proved popular to everyone but gunsmiths, who disliked working on its delicate action.  The Model 1878 was a larger-framed revolver built to handle cartridges like the .45 Colt and .44-40; it was often referred to as the Frontier Model or Double Action Army and 9000 of them in .45 Colt were supplied to the military.  Both the Models 1877 and 1878 were hampered by the slow loading and unloading system copied from the Peacemaker.

By this time S&W was starting to wake up.  They had discussed a DA revolver with the Russian government, but the plans fell through.  Smith had designs worked out in 1876 and 1878, but it wasn’t until February 1880 that they introduced a small, hinged frame, DA revolver in .38 caliber, a cartridge we know as the .38 S&W.  Like Smith’s earlier hinged-frame SA revolvers, it had the advantage of fast reloading as the barrel and cylinder tipped downward on a hinge allowing all the empty brass to be ejected at once and all the cylinder chambers were exposed for cartridge insertion.  Following close on its heels was a .32 S&W version.  In 1881 a large-frame model in .44 Russian was introduced; it evolved into the Favorite Model in 1882 which was altered to be lighter and handier.  A Frontier model was also made that chambered .44-40 and .38-40 cartridges.  In 1886 S&W introduced the .32 and .38 Safety Hammerless models that featured a concealed hammer and a grip safety; they became known as “Lemon-Squeezers” and could be considered DAO by today’s definition.

While the hinged frame was fast, Colt was looking for a more robust design and came up with the first DA revolver that most of us would recognize in 1889.  It had a swing-out cylinder, released by a sliding latch, which allowed simultaneous ejection of empty brass, plus fast reloading and it had a solid frame for increased strength.  Its cylinder rotated clockwise and it was chambered in .38 and .41 Long Colt.  It was improved and evolved into the Model 1892 which was adopted for military use in .38 Long Colt, a cartridge which proved lacking as a “man-stopper.”

S&W wasn’t resting on its laurels and came out with their own solid-frame, swing-out cylinder revolvers.  Designed were perfected in the mid-1890’s for what we now call I-frame and K-frame revolvers in .32 and .38 caliber.  The first to hit the market in 1896 was the I-frame .32 Hand Ejector Model of 1896 in .32 S&W Long.  It was followed by the K-frame Model 1899 referred to as the Military & Police chambered for the new .38 Special cartridge.  None of the earlier versions had the locking lug beneath the barrel and locked only with a center-pin at the rear of the cylinder.  The cylinder on the S&W turned counter-clockwise.  The revolver most recognizable today as the Military & Police, later designated the Model 10, began as the .38 Hand Ejector Model 1905.  This is probably the most recognizable DA revolver in the world today and has outfitted military and police forces for over 100 years.

Given the  militaries dissatisfaction with the .38 caliber revolver in the early 1900’s and the re-issue of old SAA and Model 1878 revolvers in .45 Colt, a new revolver with a larger frame to handle the .45 Colt cartridge was designed.  Introduced in 1898, it was called the New Service and would eventually be chambered in everything from .38 Short Colt to .476 Eley.  As the Model 1909 it was adopted by the military for service in the Philippines battling fierce Moro tribesmen.  It also became the service revolver of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and the New York State Police.  It later evolved into the Model 1917 revolver which became a substitute standard for the military in WWI chambered for the .45 ACP service cartridge.

Smith & Wesson began development of a large (N-frame) frame revolver in 1905 and it was introduced 3 years later as the .44 Military Model of 1908; chambered for the new .44 Special cartridge.  It had locking points a the rear of the cylinder, at the front on the ejector rod shroud and an the juncture between the rear of the ejector rod shroud and the frame, which gave it the nickname the “Triple-Lock.”  The 3rd locking point on the ejector rod shroud was an added expense as was the shroud itself, so it was eliminated in the 2nd Model.  This revolver chambered for the .455 Webley cartridge was sold to the British during WWI before America became involved.

When the U.S. entered the war in 1917 it became readily apparent that there were not enough 1911 pistols to arm our servicemen, so Colt and S&W modified their large-frame revolvers to chamber the .45 ACP cartridge; both were referred to as the Model 1917.  As the .45 ACP is a rimless cartridge; half-moon clips were invented so the revolvers ejector star could push the empty brass out of the chambers.  This worked out so well that that Model 1917 revolvers were still in use during WWII, Korea and even Viet Nam.  Today, a number of revolvers use what we call full-moon clips that carry a full load of cartridges and these guns are popular for speed-shooting events.

In 1926 S&W received a big order for .44 Hand Ejector revolvers that had the shroud like the Triple-Lock, but only the two locking mechanisms; this became the 3rd Model or the .44 Military Model of 1926.  Gun writers of the period began experimenting with high velocity handloads in revolvers like the Model 1926 and the N-frame .38-44 Heavy Duty; the end result was the .357 Magnum and the .44 Magnum cartridges.  The medium-framed or E-frame Colt .38 revolver was chambered for the .38 Special and became the Army Special and later the Official Police.  This frame was sturdy enough for the .357 Magnum and became the adjustable-sighted Trooper and then the sleek Colt Python.  A specially heat-treat S&W K-frame was chambered for the .357 Magnum and became the Combat Magnum or Model 19.

Today’s DA revolvers all have this lineage.  Early 20th Century D-frame Colts became the .38 Police Positive and later the Detective Special.  I-frame Smiths were the basis of the .38 Regulation Police and Terrier; the I-frame morphed into the J-frame and became the Chief’s Special.  As police use of the .357 Magnum grew S&W introduced the more rugged L-frame in the early 1980’s and I carried a Model 686 as my last LE service revolver.  The N-frame became the platform for the Model 29 in .44 Magnum and the Model 57 in .41 Magnum.

Colt dropped the New Service in 1942 and did not have a large frame DA revolver until 1990 when they introduced the MM-frame Anaconda in .44 Magnum and .45 Colt.  The old E-frame revolvers actions were getting too expensive to produce so Colt developed a new DA mechanism that required less hand-fitting and more coiled springs and produced the Metropolitan Police and Trooper Mk III revolvers.  The last of the Colt DA .38/.357 revolvers was the Mk V Lawman, Peacekeeper, Trooper, and King Cobra - the last of these revolvers left the factory in 1998 and the Anaconda was discontinued in 2003.  Smith & Wesson has also dropped a number of their DA revolvers over the years; especially those in obsolete calibers like .32 Long and .38 S&W.  Some have come back as Heritage Models and special editions for large distributors.

Ruger began producing a medium-frame DA revolver in .38/.357 during 1972 called the Security Six.  It evolved into the GP-100, which is still with us today.  In the early 80’s came the SP-101 small-framed .38 Special and today we have a polymer hybrid-framed LCR.  They also produce the large-frame Redhawk in .44 Magnum, which just recently became available in .41 Magnum and .45 Colt/.45 ACP.  Dan Wesson, founded in 1968 produced a medium-frame .38/.357 revolver with a unique interchangeable barrel, the Model 15-2.  The torque on the barrel produced by the barrel nut and the muzzle of the barrel shroud caused this to be a very accurate revolver.  A large-frame version called the SuperMax was the darling of hunters and metallic silhouette competition shooters.  Today only the Model 715, a new rendition of the Model 15-2 is available.

We could go on and on, but I think this hits the high-points of DA revolvers in the U.S.                          

Wrap-Up:

  • Don’t forget to shop Brownells using our affiliate link! Head to firearmsradio.tv and click the affiliate link in the upper right hand corner!

  • Be sure to go like Handgun Radio on facebook and share it with your friends!

  • Leave us a review on iTunes!

  • Listen to all the great shows on the Firearms Radio Network!Guns of Hollywood

  • Be sure to visit the Firearms Insider for review more awesome content! Also, if you are interested in writing reviews for the Firearms Insider, please email TJ at tj@firearmsradio.tv

  • Be sure to check out the Firearms Radio Network on YouTube!

  • Visit Weerd Beard at  weerdworld.com   sqrpt.com  http://gunblogvarietycast.com/

  • Thank you for coming on the show Bill! Where can people find you?

  • You can find me in various publications, I have a few new articles out with Athlon Media Group in their “The Best of Combat Handguns GUN SHOW” and “2017 Complete Book of Guns, Buyers Guide” magazines. Both are on newsstands now. You can find both myself and Jordan on our blog, The Firing Pen at  http://www.facebook.com/thefiringpen

  • Until next week, have fun & safe shooting!!!