Off Road Podcast Episode 121 - Oh look a Pronghorn

Welcome to the off road podcast. I'm your host, Ben. Today we will be exploring the off road world-- whether you like crawling up rock ledges or enjoy exploring the backroads with your family. Stay with us to find out events in your area, off road news, and topics to interest every guy & girl who craves the outdoors as seen through the windshield. I’m Your Host Ben and joining me today is Aaron.

Ben- Got Sick bought more stuff a Bumper and some Synthetic winch line Need to do a quick Build Before This weekend! And got in on some of the recent sales at patriot patch and bought myself the come and take it shirt and #allrifilesmatter

Aaron- Went shooting again.  Got some props on my rig by the Range Safety Officer. Waiting for the snow to hit.

Listener feedback

Hello, my name is Eric. I am a 2016 Toyota Tacoma owner. I have the 4x4 Off Road version of this vehicle and I have studied the first, second, and third generation Tacomas.

Being a third gen owner, I noticed that it was stated that second generation, 2004 to 2015, Tacoma came with ATS and then Crawl Control a few years later. All TRD Off Road models came with ATRAC which is active traction control which controls individual brake calipers to keep all wheels spinning at the same speed. The Off Road also has an electric locking differential in the rear. There is NO Crawl Control in any second generation Tacoma. Prior to 2012, you could get a six lug vehicle with a mechanical LSD but it was rare.

The biggest difference as an option to the second generation is the 4.0 liter V6. This is a tested and proven engine over the life of the generation. I was, and always am, disappointed that it was not mentioned that a TRD Sport exists and is very popular. This TRD package is cosmetic and more of an on-road package. Many people group the Sport and Off Road and call them TRDs when they are completely different packages.

The third generation Tacoma, 2016 to present, has Crawl Control, which many owners consider a gimmick. Based in the same control group as Crawl Control, though, is MTS, Multi Terrain Select. MTS is the old ATRAC with 5 settings. This is very useful when driving off road on different surfaces.

Crawl Control was/is also offered on current generations of Land Cruisers. This is where Crawl Control started before it was put into the Tacoma.

It was later mentioned that the 4runner has Crawl Control, as well. This is incorrect as the current 4Runner PRO has 1-setting ATRAC.

When speaking of the first generation, it was stated that a prerunner or TRD model was made with 'taller shocks'. There was not always a Prerunner model made but when it was, it came with 6 lug, 16 inch wheels. All 4 wheel drive models also came with the 6 lug wheels.

I could go on talking about Tacomas for days. I was bummed that the Tacoma section was so short and so inaccurate.

Thanks Eric

None of us at the time of the recording of the episode were very knowledgeable about Toyotas.  Now that we have Cameron on board he will be able to help pick out errors as he has some good history with them.  We can only rely on what our guests to tell us correct info.  We do try to do some research before the show does live to catch mistakes.

Thanks for writing in and calling us out on our mistakes.  We appreciate that people care enough to point them out and our listeners deserve to know the correct information.

Events and happenings

  • Winter 4x4 Jamboree-December 19-21st in Hurricane UT

  • Spanaway Moonshiners 35th Annual Swap Meet- 3/12/17 at the Washington State Fair & Events Center Puyallup, WA

  • Great American Outdoor Show- February 4th-12 2017 in Harrisburg, PA

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Stuff you guys have been buying and we appreciate it.

Magpul 9mm speedloader, Lucas oil Engine stop leak,Sea to Summit stuff sack XXL.


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The Interview

Today we have Trey from pronghorn overland gear

  • Let's talk about you

B) How did you get started off-roading?

A) What was your first rig?

S) What's your rig now?

B) What type of wheeling do you like to do?

A) Most embarrassing moment on the trail?

S) As a part of the firearms radio network we got to ask are Into shooting at all?

B) Do you get to go out and camp very often?

  • Pronghorn

A) What gave you the idea to start Pronghorn?

B) So when did you start up your company?

S) Do you have employees? How many?

A) What's your company's mission statement?

B) How did you guys come up with the name of your company, “Pronghorn Overland Gear”?

S) Where are your products made?

A) Tell us more about the modular system.

B) Do your bumpers weigh less than a traditional winch bumper?

S) How does your shackel system work?

A) What can you tell us about the high lift shackle?

B) Do you plan to expand to other vehicles?

S) Tell us about the Linktracs, and how did that idea come to about?

A) Are they bridgeable/weight/length/cost/strength/warranty?

B) What is the invention or innovation or part your company has built that you are most proud of?

S) What's in the future for your company?

  • SEMA

A) What was your SEMA trip like?

B) Was this your first time?

S) Anything that you saw that stuck out to you?

A) Did you get to walk the floor?

B) Best thing you saw?

S) Worst thing you saw?

Thanks for coming on the show tell us where the people can find you
Instragram @pronghorngear

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Closing Statements

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ORP 035 - Why We Don't Wheel With Listener Feedback

Welcome to the Off Road Podcast!!  I am your host Greg and joining me is Jeff. In this podcast we’ll cover all things offroad.  Whether you're looking for Sunday jaunts on some fire roads or hard core rock crawling, we will cover it all. Episode 35!!!

What did you do this week?

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Listener Feedback: Why We Don't Wheel

Greg and Jeff, thanks for going over my last email on re gearing my tj if I switched to 35s, I thought I left my name but after a check I must have forgot.  I have decided to stay on 33s for now and am looking into the MTRs any thoughts on them would be appreciated.  Thanks again,  Dan

Hey guys

First off I love the podcast and the info is great, I just listened to the weight podcast and heard about double hi lifting a rig and I thought to write about this. I was wheeling and got stuck then used my hi lift as a come along and the handle snapped back and broke my fore arm. But i splinted my arm and finished the trip. Would it be possible to do a show on trail safety so this doesn't happen to someone else? Keep up the great work guys


Ps you guys are goofballs (in a good way )

ok today i started your podcast i normally enjoy it but i realized that my wife does more 4x4 adventuring with her bone stock jeep patriot  latitude.  Yes she did manage to get it stuck and needed to be rescued.


i bought a 87 4runner  and it is pretty good on the body but the motor has 300,000+ miles on it. i want to use it as a cross country rig, im going to drive across country and go through mild trails in mountains and desert and live out of it camping style in summer 2017. i am going to explore the west in this truck for 3 months straight so i need it reliable. i currently put two coats of AL'S heat and noise reducer and have one coat of monstaliner in the interior. i also plan on monstalinering the outside. it has IFS and i would like more travel and i dont know which direction to go. im not sure if i should put a lift on it ive read that the lift doesnt really benefit me asi can fit 31" tires with the stock suspesion. it does need new suspension im pretty sure it is original from 87. i was looking at doing the OME 2" kit, but after some research m not sure if a lift kit is needed. i know i want a locker and was thinking about getting a elocker from a newer 4runner. i do need to rebuild the motor but i have never tackled a project like this before. is there anything else that i need or should look into?

i just found out about your show and i love it. it keeps me up at work haha


Hello Greg and Jeff!

So I'm actually emailing in regards to my husband. Let me explain-- so my husband (his name is Calvin) LOVES the Offroad podcast. He discovered you about a month ago and listens to you CONSTANTLY! He says you have about 40 episodes and he has already listened to probably about half of them! But he LOVES the show-- he's a huge jeeping/truck guy and he basically has conversations with you as you do your podcast. He will respond to questions you ask each other, etc. It's pretty fun to watch :)

Like I said, he's a pretty big jeeping guy. When we first got married 5 1/2 years ago he had a TJ (1998?) and it was the Sport edition, and he did a bunch of stuff to it (a lot of mumbo jumbo that I don't understand!) but we were actually in Moab in 2011 and we rolled it on the highway going to our next trail (we live in Northern Utah, so we go to Moab quite a bit....) anyway, he now has a Jeep Cherokee, and I'm not sure of the year.... I wanna say 1989? Anyway, he has done a bunch of stuff to the "rear end" and the axles I believe.... He also has a 1966 Chevy truck that he is restoring at the moment. Sorry I sound terrible with this kind of talk! Anyway, the point of this email is to see if you would be willing to tell him HAPPY BIRTHDAY on the show? just a quick shout-out would literally make his WHOLE day. His birthday is 3/7,(he turns 28 years old) so this Saturday. Obviously it doesn't have to be on his birthday but I plan on not telling him and then one day he will be listening and will be SO caught off guard and so excited! thank you so much!

ps- he also loves your show because "riding the Rubicon" is on his bucket list :)

thank you for your time!  --Angie

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Trip Reports:  None...


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ORP 034 - Weight vs Strength

Intro:  Welcome to the Off Road Podcast!!  I am your host Greg and joining me is Jeff. In this podcast we’ll cover all things offroad.  Whether you're looking for Sunday jaunts on some fire roads or hard core rock crawling, we will cover it all.     

Episode 34!!!

What did you do this week?

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Listener Feedback:

Hey Greg and Jeff love the podcast!!!

I have a stock 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee (WK) In my spare time I like to take the jeep muddin and I always get small rocks wedged in my brake calipers and it makes the worst sounds when I get back on the pavement. I was wondering if y'all have ever had this happen and if there is any way of preventing this from happening? Thanks and keep up the good work!!!


Main Topic:  Light weight vs. Strength?

Aluminum vs steel?

Axles compared to weight...

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ORP 033 - Purchasing a Used Wheeler

Welcome to the Off Road Podcast!!  I am your host Greg and joining me is Jeff. In this podcast we’ll cover all things offroad.  Whether you're looking for Sunday jaunts on some fire roads or hard core rock crawling, we will cover it all.   Episode 33!!!

What did you do this week?

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Listener Feedback:

Is there anything that we can do to help you guys - other than the Amazon option?


Hey looking to go from 33s to 35s with 3.73 gears on a tj would that be fine or would I need to regear (4.0 manual) thanks for reading.

Main Topic:  Purchasing a Used Wheeler

Wrangler keeping solid axles

The Jeep Wrangler, descendant of the legendary Army Jeeps and Willys/Kaiser/AMC CJ series, will keep its solid axles after all.

The next-generation Wrangler, due in 2017, will get some updates to its suspension to improve ride and fuel economy. However, the basic design that allows the axles to maintain traction at all four wheels while traversing the most difficult terrain will remain.

Wrangler’s “smaller” body

The body design choices are:

  • Body on frame. A separate body structure is built on a full-length frame; the visible body panels are “unstressed,” not needed for rigidity. This is how current Wranglers and full-size Ram pickups are made.
  • Full monocoque. A single structure relies completely on stressed body panels with no subframes at all.
  • Roll cage. A separate structure provides a stress path through round tubes passing through (and independent of) the body structure, and tied to the main frame—either separate or subframes. One example is Norm Layton’s custom-made “Jeep” used for off-road endurance racing, pictured below.
  • Spaceframe. A series of extrusions (metal formed by forcing it through a die) that form a full load-carrying stressed structure; it’s usually a basic box shape, with flanges (ridges to add strength or hold different things together) added.

One has to do aluminum bodies before one can move on to aluminum space frames, which is likely the optimum future for the Jeep Wrangler.

As for the body appearance, it will likely be made narrower to present a smaller “face” to the wind, and be more aerodynamic. They can do this by closing gaps and shortening the track to pull the wheels back into the wheelhouses; it would actually be cheaper to switch to an independent front suspension to do this, than to narrow the axles.

Found this pretty nice cj. Looking for a daily driver that I can do some light wheeling in. They want 6800 for this one. Very little rust nice body new tires. Is that a pretty good price? Not sure on the tranny I just know it's the stock one. Thoughts? Should I be looking for something newer?

1982 Renegade CJ7 Jeep

Original miles 89, 722

258 amc motor

5 speed


35 inch tires

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Trip Reports:  None...


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