PTS 076 - AAR MDFI YSINTG and Foundation Handgun

Welcome to Practically Tactical Episode 76 brought to you by the Firearms Radio Network! The Practically Tactical show is a slightly more practical approach to the firearms lifestyle. This show features a round table discussion about guns, gear, and shooting with some of the best firearms instructors, shooters and figures in the firearms industry. On this episode we will be discussing our recent trip to MDFI's training classes You Suck Its Not The Gun (YSINTG) and Foundation Handgun and giving an After Action Report on the classes. Find out more information on MDFI Here:

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YSINTG AAR Location: Centerline Date: June 6, 2015 Here is a short AAR (first one ever so forgive me if it sucks) Some background: I have had no formal training with pistols and had only really shot at ranges or just plinking on my parent’s “back 40.” I have had my CPL for several years and can honestly say that, at first, I didn’t carry much. Recently, I have had my family’s situation change and now I carry as much as feasibly possible. With that renewed requirement to carry, I need to get better with a pistol so I am more confident in my abilities. Heading in to class: As I am preparing for class, I have been seriously considering changing my carry gun. I currently carry a Ruger SR9c (from here on out it will be know as the “Little Ruger that Could.”) I have noticed that most people seem to carry Glocks or M&Ps. I really don’t like jumping on bandwagons but I keep thinking that having a vast majority of people carrying the same gun must mean something. Class Goals: 1. Determine if the Little Ruger that Could will continue to be my carry gun 2. Become more confident/competent in my pistol shooting abilities. Results: The class was very simple in theory but in reality it was tough for me. I had trouble turning off my brain and it really showed in my shot groupings. This was glaringly obvious to me in the 4 shrinking circles drill. At 1.5 yards I was ok the first go around. I had all but 1 of my rounds hit the black dot. Not bad. Then I moved back to 3 yards and it looked like I was shooting from the hip. I was missing by 2 inches. I gave myself a good ass chewing and stepped back up to the 1.5 yard mark for the third go around. I forced myself to focus, turn off the outside world, and SLOW down. All 4 rounds took out the dots and more specifically, I took out the little numbers in the center of the little dots. That proved to me that if I turn off my head, I am a pretty good shot and the Little Ruger that Could is a pretty good gun. Final Thought: I realized that I am my own worst enemy when shooting. I know the fundamentals and know how to execute them, but my head gets in the way and I don’t do what I know is correct. I need to do the drills I learned over and over to beat that focus and action into my head. It will take time but will be time well spent. The Little Ruger that Could performed well. I was pleased to learn that if used correctly, it will do the job well. The only issue I found is the grips. I was shooting good groupings during the drills until I put sunscreen on. The greasiness of the sunscreen really impacted my grip on the gun, which hurt my groupings. Once I was able to wash my hands, the groupings got better. I am now looking for ways to improve my grips so they don’t get slippery when wet (sorry Bon Jovi). I looked at the potential of stippling the Ruger but decided to order something called Talon Grips. They were recommended by a friend and if they don’t work I will go the stippling route. Thought it smart to try the Talon Grips first because you can’t undo stippling.


AAR MDFI YSINTG June 6, 2015 Centerline

Gear: Glock 26 w/ 10-8 FO and 10-8 Rear, Phlster AIWB holster, Kytex mag carrier

Background: I purchased my first pistol roughly 3 years ago and only began seriously heading to the range 6 months ago. I have jumped from a CM9, PPQ, P226, VP9 and finally ended up back on Glocks. I don’t think that I ever spent enough time on a certain pistol to learn the nuances let alone shoot it proficiently. I have never had professional instruction or handgun class. I recently purchased a Glock 19 but shot the 26 in class as I carry it the most.

Expectations: I hoped to improve my accuracy and pick up good habits and training cues.

Synopsis: We started the class easily enough, what I thought would be easy, shooting a small black dot on piece of copy paper. It was stressed that there “was no time limit” yet I seemed to fire off my shots like I usually do and my results indicated that. My typical grouping of several good shots, followed by the transition of left and low (in this instance left and high). I know then that it was going to be a challenging day and hoped my final paper was going to have one ragged hole right on the dot. Pistol shooting has to be mostly mental.

We proceeded to shoot a number of drills from as close as 1.5 yards up to 7 yards. Keith and Trek reiterated that there was no time limit and to be accountable for every shot, and that each shot was a new one ( That little guy? I wouldn’t worry about that little guy.) Front sight focus was imperative on the drills shooting the small black targets. Even though they said slow down, I just wanted to go fast! We also worked on drills to improve trigger control and to diagnose the dreaded flinch(which I do). I can dry fire at my house but I only flinch when the gun is loaded. Snap caps proved this point. Towards the second half of the class, we put the sight alignment and trigger control aspects together. I still rushed shots, but could now tell what I was doing wrong and began to correct it. I have shot better, but if you can’t shoot on command, how good are you? We did another dot drill to see if we improved. My grouping moved more centerline and shrunk a “little bit”. Not as good as I had hoped but left with a strategy to get better.

Instructors: Keth and Trek are great instructors. They knew their stuff but also were laid back and made for a fun learning environment. They stressed safety was paramount and that it was an EGO free zone. We had a variety of shooters of varying skill levels. They took the act of shooting a pistol accurately and broke it down into two simple parts. Trek proved this by shooting his 19 inverted and making two back to back hits on the walk back drill.

Final Thoughts: The biggest thing that I learned that jumping from gun to gun and wasting time and money on different sights was just that, a waste. There were students shooting stock Glocks and shooting the lights out. Other were shooting DS/SA and doing just as well. Strip all that other stuff away and its sight alignment + trigger control.

I thought the 10-8 FO was very bright outdoors and easy to pick up. I wish I would have used my 19 at least for a portion of the class to try it out. I also noticed that as class went on and it got hotter that my grip was sweaty and I had to readjust. Talons or SMB in the future.

I would definitely recommend anyone to take this class and then go back every year or every other year to focus on the basics.


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