Handgun Radio 223 - A History of Speedloaders with Daniel Watters

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This week, Daniel Watters discusses the history of speedloaders!


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Figured we’d skip the week in review. Just wanted to remind everyone to send in their 1899 loadout to handgunradio@gmail.com or to the facebook page! We’ve gotten a lot of great entries so far!


Listener Emails:

Name: Jon

Subject: Mare’s Leg!

Message: Hey, fellas! New(ish) shooter here, and a huge fan.

So, I up and bought a Henry Mare’s Leg in .357 this week, mostly because of Steve McQueen, and Firefly. It looks badass, I don’t own anything like it, and dammit, I’m a grown-ass man, and if I want a range toy, I’m gonna’ buy a range toy.


So, while I wait for it to arrive, a couple questions for you gents.

1) What the hell do you suggest I do with the thing? Seriously, have y’all shot these? It’s a “taint gun”. ‘Taint a pistol, and ‘taint a shotgun. Is it as awkward to shoot as it looks?


2) What would I have to do (legally) to slap a full size stock on it, and just go SBR? I live in Virginia, if that makes a difference.


Keep up the terrific work, gents. The drink segment is my favorite.


Cheers,

Name: Quintin

Subject: 450 SMC

We talked about this last week but Daniel has some insight.

The founder and former president of Triton Ammunition Fernando Coelho often discussed the origins of the .45 Super and the .450 SMC in an online forum that he once owned. The employee responsible for the original off-color “SMC” designation was Triton’s Operations Manager, retired USMC Gunnery Sergeant David Schmidbauer.

http://gunhub.com/gun-talk/49832-45-super.html#post452548


Name: Rick

Subject: Jo.Lo.Ar. pistol

Message: Any help in field stripping this gun?

Thanks in advance,

Rick .....



Drink Segment:  Because I’m lazy Tonight  Speyburn 10 in a glass


Main Topic: A History of Speedloaders with Daniel Watters


Google Patents link for the US Patent Class which covers revolver speedloaders.
https://patents.google.com/?q=F41A9%2f85&sort=old


Additional articles and videos for visual reference:

https://revolverguy.com/blast-past-popular-police-speedloaders-1970s/

https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/revolver-speed-loaders-work/

https://youtu.be/kSDAZLc5Jgg



Early speedloaders appeared not long after the first top-break and swing-open cylinder revolvers hit the market in the late 19th Century.

For instance, in 1878, Rollin White was awarded a pair of patents (US Patents #201,855 and #202,613) for belt-mounted, multiple-refill speedloaders for top-break revolvers, such as the S&W Model 3. The loader consists of an inner and outer tube, along with a center spring-loaded shaft. The drawings depict the loader filled five stacks of cartridges - 30 cartridges total. Each stack is held in place by spring tabs. By forcing the rear of the open cylinder against the mouth of the inner tube, all of the stacks are pushed forward, allowing for the stack of cartridges nearest to the cylinder to drop free. The design looks like it would be very sensitive to overall cartridge length. The second patent is basically the same idea as the first, but also incorporates an integral holster.

https://www.google.com/patents/US201855

https://www.google.com/patents/US202613

Probably one of the first designs that would be fairly relevant even today is US Patent #223,100 from 1879 by William H. Bell. It locks and unlocks by twisting. However, the design also allowed for the case rims to be trapped not only by a center locking piece but also an outer groove.

https://www.google.com/patents/US223100


In 1881, Major George Scofield was awarded US Patent #239,676. Not surprisingly, it depicts his pet S&W Model 3. This was a push to release style, depending upon a conical collet bushing to lock the cartridge in place by friction. By pressing the loader onto the cylinder, a cup-shaped centerpiece would force the legs of the bushing together to loosen their tension on the cartridges.


https://patents.google.com/patent/US239676A


Several years later in 1886, Daniel Baird Wesson came up his own speedloader along with a belt rig with multiple carriers that would be right at home at an ICORE match today - US Patent #354,454. The loaders were a twist to release type. Instead of acting as a locking piece, the center rotor merely forces the case rims into an outer groove for locking.


https://patents.google.com/patent/US354454A


An early proponent of speedloader use was a US Army cavalry officer by the name of John C. Kelton.  He would eventually be promoted to Brigadier General upon becoming Adjutant General of the US Army.

Here is one of his vintage advocacy articles:

"Devices by Means of Which Effective Mounted Firing with the Pistol and Carbine can be Obtained by the Cavalry in Attack."


By Colonel J. C. Kelton

Assistant Adjutant General, US Army


Journal of the United States Cavalry Association (March 1888)


Kelton had personally designed and patented  the devices mentioned in his article, including the cartridge packs.


https://hdl.handle.net/2027/hvd.hwhgvu?urlappend=%3Bseq=74

Kelton's designs look a bit fiddly compared to his historical counterparts, and I’m not certain that he ever made more than the prototypes he displayed.  Despite his rank and position, Kelton’s cartridge packs were not adopted.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US331891A
https://patents.google.com/patent/US394373A
https://patents.google.com/patent/US394374A

Colt got in on the action in 1889 after the introduction of their swing-out cylinder revolvers. Carl J. Ebhets was awarded US Patent #402,424 for the “cartridge pack” designed as an accessory for his M1889 New Navy revolver. (Besides designing Colt's classic double-action revolvers, Ehbets would later act as Colt's patent attorney in preparing some of John M. Browning's semi-auto pistol patents.) Ebhets' design depended upon a center wedge to force the cartridge rims into an outer ring. By pressing the loader against the cylinder, the wedge would be forced to the rear, allowing the cartridges to drop free. The US Navy actually issued a pair of these in a belt pouch.

https://www.google.com/patents/US402424


The first loader to bring the gap from the 19th to the 20th Century was the famous Prideaux Device. William de Courcy Prideaux was awarded his first English patent in 1893 which was covered by US Patent #516,942 in 1894. Prideaux continued to improve the loader, and was awarded US Patent #1,181,034 in 1916. Note that the first patent depicts a Webley Mark I revolver while the second patent shows a Colt New Service. The loader depends upon two rows of long spring tabs to hold the cartridges in place. The spring tabs are attached to an inner section of the loader, while the cartridge cases are backed by the outer section. When the loader is pressed against the cylinder, the outer section is pressed forward over the spring tab section. The cartridges are forced into the chambers past the spring tab section, which is blocked from movement by the face of the cylinder. The original design saw service during the Boer War while the improved variant was issued during World War I.

https://www.google.com/patents/US516942

https://www.google.com/patents/US1181034

https://youtu.be/WDaFBDsCg_E
https://hdl.handle.net/2027/coo.31924069276362?urlappend=%3Bseq=876

https://www.engelscollectibles.com/Listing/Details/487994/Speed-Loader

https://www.simpsonltd.com/products/c28629

http://www.icollector.com/Prideaux-Speedloader-for-Webley-Fosbery-Pistol_i25753761



After taping, I discovered that Herman H. Kempf’s 1934 patented loader (US Patent #1,971,526) had actually been produced.  It was marketed by the Revolver Cartridge Clip Corp. of New York. Kempf’s loader was a side-stripping design featuring the cartridges arranged in a cylindrical fashion across three tiers. You inserted all six cartridges into the cylinder and pulled the loader directly to the side via a finger ring.  The neat feature was that the loader was hinged in the middle allowing it to be stored fairly flat in a carrying pouch. Upon removal from the pouch, a torsion spring would return the loader to its normal ready-to-load configuration.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US1971526A
http://smith-wessonforum.com/gun-leather-carry-gear/75984-vintage-steel-leather-pics-10.html


You can see in the opening link that there was no shortage of speedloader patents in the early 20th Century. Some of them even used design concepts that would be resurrected multiple times by later inventors. However, none of these speedloaders really made a dent in the US police market until after the Second World War. Officers relied primarily on belt-mounted cartridge loops, dump pouches, or even their pockets to carry spare cartridges.


One of the earliest known issue speedloaders used by the Los Angeles Police Department was the “Spee-D-Loader.” While he filed his first application as early as 1948, Austin J. Grogan was not awarded US Patent #2,592,415 until 1952. The design is basically a flat metal strip with six pairs of spring fingers riveted along its length. The cartridge cases are held sideways by the spring fingers. The goal was to make a loader flat and compact enough to fit into a conventional dump-pouch designed for loose cartridges. These loaders were apparently still issued by the LAPD as late as the early 1970s. There is almost no documentation available on when they were first marketed or the available sizes, if any. A 1972-vintage article mentioned that the cartridge spacing on their sample would not allow them to load more than one chamber at a time.


https://patents.google.com/patent/US2592415A


The popularity of speedloaders didn't increase nationally until PPC competition started to hit an equipment race during the 1960s and '70s. The less time you spent reloading your revolver meant more time to aim and shoot on the timed course of fire. A few forward-thinking officers thought that if the speedloaders worked during a competition, why not use them on the street?

One of the earliest speedloaders to become popular during this era was the Hunt Multi-Loader. While John M. Hunt received US Patent #2,896,353 in 1959, I was not able to find advertisements predating 1963. In 1968, the design was picked up by Kel-Lite and marketed by Safariland as the “Firepower Clip.” Hunt's design was a cup-shaped piece of rubber that held the cartridges on the outer bottom surface. The cartridge rims were retained much like the later Bianchi Speed Strip. You inserted the rounds together into the cylinder, and then peeled the loader off. However, it was easier said than done. If you weren't careful, the act of peeling would pull a few cartridges back out of the chamber. Curiously, even after the original design was dropped by Safariland for the Comp I, Hunt continued to work on improving carriers for it, resulting in US Patent #4,079,536 in 1978.

https://www.google.com/patents/US2896353

https://www.google.com/patents/US4079536


In 1963, Ole N. Olson filed for a push button release speedloader design that was awarded US Patent #3,197,907 in 1965. The loaders were produced by Salinas Industries, and marketed by J.M. Bucheimer as early as 1964. The loaders would later be marketed as the “Feathertouch.” The cartridges were retained by a central flexible washer placed within the rear of the loader. The tiny pushbutton compresses the washer into an internal concave recess, freeing the rims of the cartridges. Some users have complained that the release of the cartridges was not always discernable or reliable. Olson noted in the patent that the washer was the first thing to wear out. You'll note in the attached advertisement that the early loaders were much longer than those seen in Mike Woods' linked article.


https://www.google.com/patents/US3197907


In 1965, Donald Matich received US Patent #3,213,559 for what would be marketed as the Matich Quick Loader. The Matich was sort of like a flexible version of the Spee-D-Loader. You would snap the cartridges in the loader's fingers while it was flat. Afterward, you could roll the strip into a circle, locking it in place via a two-fingered sling frog hooked into a crosspin molded into the opposite end of the strip. To reload, you would start the cartridges into the cylinder and then peel the strip off. As the strip unrolled, the flanges would pull apart allowing the cartridges to drop into the cylinder.

https://www.google.com/patents/US3213559

http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-revolvers-1961-1980/477053-matich-quick-loader-unusual-case-historical-interest-maybe-nostalgia.html


Ole N. Olson had a much simpler design that was awarded US Patent #3,225,482 in 1965. It was kind of like a Speed Strip, but the flexible rubber body retained each cartridge almost as like a conventional belt loop. To load the revolver, the rim of each cartridge had to be pressed down through the loop. The earliest ad I can find for this design dates to 1980. It was marketed by Triden Industries as the Rapid Revolver Loading Clip.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US3225482A


After an experiment in the mid-1960s to develop a collapsable speedloader (US Patent #3,252,238), William C. Bye and his partner Werner O. Brunhuber received US Patent #3,503,150 in 1970 for a more marketable design. Marketed as the Bye Speed Loading System, its selling point was that it had no springs, screw, cams, or ratchets. As you can see by the patent that's not entirely true as the handle is threaded into the center collet-style locking piece. When the handle was pushed forward, the locking piece would expand to hold the cartridge case rims. When the loader was pushed into the cylinder, the tapered top of the locking piece would be compressed and thus, release the cartridges. By 1978, it was 3 to 4 times as expensive as competing speedloaders, so this could not have helped sales.

https://www.google.com/patents/US3252238

https://www.google.com/patents/US3503150

I believe that US Patent #3,538,636 issued in 1970 is the patent for what became the Bianchi Speed Strip, but given the filing date of 1968, I'm not entirely certain. The now-abandoned trademark for Speed Strips claims that they were first marketed in 1965, but then again, others claim that they were not featured in Bianchi's catalogs until 1972.

https://www.google.com/patents/US3538636

http://www.safariland.com/products/holsters-and-gear/gun-accessories/speed-loaders-and-trays/revolver/speed-strips---pair-10851.html#start=1



Also in 1970, John D. Fordham and William L. Powers of Dade Screw Machine received US Patent #3,541,716. The new Dade Loader became extremely popular among PPC shooters. The case rims were retained by an elastic O-ring (garter spring) along the outer diameter of the loader. This made loading the Dade fairly easy as individual cartridges would snap into place as the rim passed the garter spring. When reloading, the loader would bottom out against the cylinder, and then you would press the large center button, forcing the case rims past the garter spring. The downside to the Dade was its fat diameter interfered with factory stocks and thumbpieces. Worse yet, it could easily lose the cartridges when dropped. The Dade Loaders were still in production in the 1980s and perhaps even later.

https://www.google.com/patents/US3541716


French inventor Jean Dupouy received US Patent #3,667,146 in 1972 for own concept of a rigid side-stripping speedloader. I believe this patent was the basis of a speedloader once sold by Manurhin. Dupouy's loader staggered the cartridges so they could be loaded three at a time, but as a result, it would not have been flat enough to fit legacy dump pouches.


https://patents.google.com/patent/US3667146A



The most commercially popular speedloader has probably been probably the HKS 'Six Second' speedloader. Robert D. Switzer received US Patent # 3,722,125 in 1973 for the initial design. These original models would later be dubbed the M-model after the introduction of the improved A and B models.

https://www.google.com/patents/US3722125

http://www.hksspeedloaders.com/SpeedloaderPage.html


Not to be confused with the HKS Six Second, the Second Six loader was also patented in 1973 (US Patent #3,769,732). Designed by William T. Griffis, the Second Six consisted of two pieces of interlocking molded plastic. The inner portion retained the case rims through molded-in flanges; the outer portion was a ring that sat on top of the case heads when loaded. You would start the cartridges into the cylinder, and then force the outer ring towards the cylinder. This would force the case rims past the flanges. In other words, it was sort of a modern polymer re-interpretation of the Prideaux Device. The upside was that this loader was extremely narrow in diameter, and had a short overall length. Initially, the firm would only sell directly to agencies and individual LEOs. Agencies issuing the Second Six included the California Highway Patrol and the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department. (While some people have praised the Second Six for its ease of use, I personally found that forcing the tiny outer ring down could be nearly impossible at times. I don't know if there was an aging plastic issue with my used sample, or some sort of dimensional mismatch with my Detective Special. However, I don't remember it working better on S&W K-Frames.) In 1981, Griffis would receive US Patent #4,272,903 for a new three-piece variant, but I don't think this was nearly as prolific as the original.

https://www.google.com/patents/US3769732

https://www.google.com/patents/US4272903

In 1974, Paul P. Kubik received US Patent #3,824,729. The Kubik Speed Reloader was an odd piece of equipment. The cartridges were held in place by spring tension in three staggered tiers. The cartridges could be inserted from one side of the loader only. You started the cartridges in the chambers and then pulled the loader out to the side.

https://www.google.com/patents/US3824729

https://americanhandgunner.com/1978issues/AHMA78.pdf#page=34

David A. Johnson received US Patent #4,065,868 in 1978 for what was initially known as the JFS. While Johnson was reportedly making them in his garage even before the patent was granted, the design quickly gained a following on the West Coast amongst PPC shooters. In an interview published in 1980, Safariland's president Neale Perkins credited PPC revolversmith Bill Davis with tipping him off to the JFS loader. Safariland picked up the rights to the design, where it was ultimately named the Comp I. Perkins stated that they sold 50,000 of the Comp I J-K2 loaders within the first 9 months of its introduction in 1977.

https://www.google.com/patents/US4065868

http://www.safariland.com/products/holsters-and-gear/gun-accessories/speed-loaders-and-trays/revolver/speedloader---comp-i-11230.html


At the same time that David Johnson was designing the Comp I, Austrian inventors Heinz Jelinek and Fritz Carmann were designing what would become known as the Jet-Loader. French and German patents were received in 1978, while US Patent #4,133,129 was awarded in 1979. The earliest mention I can find of the Jet-Loader being imported to the US was in 1981. Like other imported speedloaders, its availability was often spotty, yet it developed a cult following with serious PPC shooters in the US.

https://www.google.com/patents/US4133129

https://revolverguy.com/look-jetloader-speedloader/


HKS introduced their improved A and B-models in 1978, well ahead of the 1980 and 1982 patent awards. The B-model was short-lived after its introduction. The A-models are manual-release only like the legacy M-models. However, the A-model covers the primers and rattled less than the legacy M-models. HKS retained the M-model has it found that some revolvers simply needed the cartridges to be held a little less rigidly for rapid indexing of the cartridges into the cylinder. The B-model basically added the automatic release of the Safariland Comp I while retaining the option of a manual twist release like the M and A models.

https://www.google.com/patents/US4202124

https://patents.google.com/patent/US4313275A



In 1982, Safariland introduced the improved Comp II speedloader. Alas, I can't seem to locate a patent for that one.


https://www.safariland.com/products/holsters-and-gear/gun-accessories/speed-loaders-and-trays/revolver/speedloader---comp-ii-11231.html

https://revolverguy.com/safariland-comp-ii-speedloader/


In 1986, JFS Inc. licensed the patent rights to the Jet-Loader. However, David Johnson further modified the design, resulting in the award of US Patent # 4,866,870 in 1989. Johnson noted that upon release of the spring-loaded locking mechanism, his legacy Comp I and Comp II would sometimes result in a slight twisting motion that impeded the clean release of the cartridges from the loader. Given the much larger and stronger spring of the Jet-Loader, the torque was even more severe. Manuals for the latter even recommended that the user not hold the revolver by the cylinder while the loader is inserted. Johnson's solution was to add a rotating sleeve to the improved design's handle, so that the loader's handle was free to twist during release. Safariland still markets this as the Comp III.


https://www.google.com/patents/US4866870

http://www.safariland.com/products/holsters-and-gear/gun-accessories/speed-loaders-and-trays/revolver/speedloader---comp-iii-11232.html


Earlier in 1989, Venezuelan inventor Angel G. Goyanes was awarded US Patent #4,862,622. Goyanes' design is probably the ultimate combination of the “Spee-D-Loader” and Matich pull-strip designs. The strip can be inserted flat in a dump pouch, yet upon withdrawal from the pouch, internal springs will force the strip to roll into a cylinder. Goyanes has never found a manufacturer for his design, and with the expiration of the patent, he will likely never profit from it. I'm only including this one as a novelty since Goyanes has a demonstration video online.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US4862622A

https://youtu.be/7NaZpeFEfN8



In 1997, Charles Norgaard was awarded US Patent #5,621,998 for what was later marketed as the Gunsite Training Center Loader. One wonders why they thought that this was a good idea given its extreme bulk.


https://patents.google.com/patent/US5621998A
https://revolverguy.com/gunsite-training-center-loader/


In 1995, German inventor Gerhard Longwitz began filing patent applications for what became known as the S.L. Variant. Awarded US Patent #5,953,845 in 1999, the S.L. Variant holds the case rims by independent fingers that cam in and out of the center body. Each cartridge is backed by an individual spring. When the loader hits the extractor star, the fingers cam out of the way, and the springs propel the cartridges into the chambers. The best feature of this loader is the ease of inserting and locking individual rounds...no jiggling or twisting, just push each one into place until it clicks. For those who desire the longer handle of the Jet-Loader or the Comp III, a screw-on extension was also available. The downside is the cost and availability.

https://www.google.com/patents/US5953845

https://revolverguy.com/mythical-s-l-variant-speed-loader/


A more recent attempt to revive the Kubik design was the Maxfire, introduced around 2000. It is a far simpler implementation of the concept, with the benefit of a pull ring instead of the Kubik's tab.


https://revolverguy.com/maxfire-speedloader-review/


Back in 2005, Dave Skrzela introduced his variation on the classic Dade Loader, the DS-10 Speed. It was originally intended for use with rimfire revolvers, as a handy way to top off the cylinder during matches. He was going to branch out into centerfire designs, but has since dropped out of sight.


https://web.archive.org/web/20111126061513/http://ds10speed.wordpress.com:80/ds-10-im/

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:zfeuJKy_jF8J:https://ds10speed.wordpress.com/ds-10-history/+&cd=12&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us



The new Ripcord speedloader is yet another variation of the old Matich design. While CK Tactical's commercial introduction of the Ripcord is fairly recent, the patent was awarded back in 2008.


https://patents.google.com/patent/US7363845B2

https://cktactical.com/



The year 2008 also saw the introduction of Tuff Products Quickstrips, a variation of the Bianchi Speed Strips. Unlike Bianchi, which limited itself to 6-shot .38 Spec/.357 Mag and .44 Spec/Mag, Tuff Products ultimately introduced a wide variety of models of varying capacities and calibers.


http://tuffproducts.com/e-d-c-concealed-carry/quickstripsa/



The 5-Star Firearms speedloaders were commercially introduced back around 2010. An aluminum-billet variation on the HKS, the loaders started off as a personal project by Clinton Hartford in his uncle's garage. The story goes that a fellow shooter saw Clinton using his loaders at the range and offered him $20 for one.


https://www.5starfirearms.com/Speed-Loading-s/106.htm

https://revolverguy.com/5-star-firearms-speedloader-review/


Daniel Higby introduced his Speed-Beez design in 2012, yet another variation on the Dade Loader concept. Much like the DS-10 Speed, it started off aimed primarily at rimfire revolver competition shooters, but its lineup has expanded dramatically since then.


https://patents.google.com/patent/US9909827B1

https://www.speedbeez.com/

https://revolverguy.com/speed-beez-speedloader-review/



Earlier this year, Pachmayr introduced its new line of aluminum competition speedloaders. While a variation on the classic HKS, the sides are angled off for additional clearance.


https://www.lymanproducts.com/brands/pachmayr/aluminum-competition-speedloaders.html

https://revolverguy.com/pachmayr-aluminum-competition-speedloader/






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Handgun Radio 222 - Carry Setup

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

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Listener Email:

Name: Q.B.

Subject: 450 SMC

Message: Over last couple of shows, I heard Weird Beard mention wanting to convert his new handgun to 450 roland. Maybe he should look into Double Tap 450 SMC ammo with no conversion needed. Also might be able to get Mike, owner of Double Tap on the show, know as the god father of 10mm.

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Thanks in advance,

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JoloAr

Drink Segment: Woodford Reserve bourbon

Listener Email: From Spencer “ your last discussion about pocket carry for the LCR made me realize you must not have seen the excellent ‘boot grips’ Ruger sells for them for $30 on their site. They aren’t quite as comfortable as the regular grips, but they are still Hogue's with the shock-absorbing gel strip in them, and are very comfortable.

I use these on my LCR in 9mm, which recoils about the same as the 357 setup I used to carry. You do lose a place for your pinky finger with these grips, but the gun is still very controllable and it fits in places the bulkier standard grip makes difficult.

BTW, I know that 357 sounds cooler, but 9mm in a snubby is a much more efficient way to get the same (or better) results. Take a look at Ballistics By The Inch sometime if you want to be seriously depressed about how bad 357 in snubbies sucks.

Since my regular carry gun (FNS-9 Compact) is in 9mm, and the LCR sometimes does backup duty, the compatibility made a lot of sense for me. Since it indexes off of the case mouth, you don’t need moon clips to shoot, and with nickel-plated defense ammo, you don’t really need them for ejection either, at least not for the first few cylinders.”

LCR Boot Grip

Main Topic: Our Carry Setup

Ryan:

-Steyr C9-A1 with 17 round mag. Extra mag in pen pocket of Carhartt Pants

-RPS Tactical Adaptive Holster

-9mm Hornady Critical Duty 135 Grain

-Pocket Holster: Desantis Nemesis for all

-S&W Model 60 Modified (In Pocket) with .38 Special Speer 135 grain Short Barrel Gold Dot loads

-4 rounds in speedstrips or 5 rounds in an HKS speedloader.

-Kahr CM9 9mm using the same Hornday ammo. (in pocket)

-Limited Concealability: Either the Taurus PT22 Poly .22 LR with CCI LRN or NAA .22 Magnum with Speer GD 40 grn. Both with pocket holsters

Weer’d Carry Setup: Primary S&W 1911Sc in a Galco Miami Classic II

Light Carry: Kahr PM 45 in a DeSantis Nemesis

Lighter Carry: Ruger LCR .357 also in a Desantis Nemesis with Bianchi Speed Strips

Last Resort: Beretta 21A .22 LR in an Uncle Mike’s Small pocket Holster

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Handgun Radio 221 - Modern Metal

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Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.


This week we talk old & new metal!


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Week in Review:


Weerd:

Ryan: -Ripcord Speedloader

-Lucky Gunner Lounge Pocket Pistol Project

-Speedloaders



Listener T:

Canik TP9SF now Massachusetts legal. Thoughts and opinions? Sootch did a review and MAC put it through the gauntlet. And Noir did a first rounds video. Thank you.


Listener L on the Taurus Spectrum:

Thanks Weerd for reading my email on the last show.

Here's my little video on that Spectrum. Not a review per se. Now over 320

rounds with no FTE's and FTF's. Guys, I understand the fears on quality

control on Tauruses. That's pretty much related to guns made in Brazil,

meeting high demands of the market. I've suffered that too trying to get

accessories and parts. I had to wait 3 months once for a magazine for my

24/7 pro. That is ridiculous. All of that because the mag would come from

Brazil. The Spectrum is an all "made in america gun". I have a S&W

Bodyguard 380, a Ruger LCP II, a Kahr CW 380. The only I really don't care

much is the S&W. The grip kinda hurt the web of my hand. Love the Kahr and

the LCP II. But I noticed my follow up  shots with the Spectrum a little

more faster, because it doesn't snap. I mean, it's just a push. You might

find the trigger a little on the heavy side, but after 100 rounds it did

get better, or I just got used to it. The Trigger on the LCP II kinda

scares me. The pre 95% cocked hammer is an accident waiting to happen. The

first LCP was pretty much a half way cocked hammer version (keltec

inspired). So, no need to be afraid of the Spectrum. Mr. Enabler (Weerd)

you got me into a PM45 and is almost getting me into a LCR in 357. Please

be kind with me, because I have two reasons to make a move. I have my

birthday this month and Christmas coming in next.

Love your show guys.




Drink Segment:    I’m having a Corpse Reviver number 2

This drink calls for Gin, Triple Sec,  Lillet Blanc and Lemon juice all in equal proportions,  and an absinthe wash.


But mine I made it with gin, Grand Marnier, Lillet Blanc, and Pernod.


Gran marnier is very similar to Triple Sec, and pretty darn close to Cointreau,  as well as Curacao. So if you see a cocktail with any one of those you can do a simple substitution for what you have in your cabinet.  There might be some subtle differences, but you’ll be close enough to know if you like the drink or not.


Absinthe is an Anise Liquor,  and that flavor is SO strong that really all the anise liquors and Liqureurs taste pretty much the same,  so when you don’t want to buy that expensive bottle of Absithe, you could use Penod, Ouzo, or Sambuca.


There are a few others,  that might be a bit more risky,  like Jagermeister or Campari for other Amaro style liqueurs,  but that must be done with caution, tho these drinks all have a similer bitter-sweet quality that while those substitutions might not re-create the cocktail,  it might behave similar enough to get a different, but delicious drink.


Main Topic: Modern Metal


Legacy Metal:

-1911

-CZ75

-Beretta 92

-Stoeger Couger

-Ruger Mk4 https://www.ruger.com/products/markIVStandard/models.html

-Walther PPK

-Sig P-2 Series


Newer Metal:

-Kahr K-Series

-Grand Power

-Husdon H9

-Boberg/  Bond Arms Bullpup


Wrap-Up:


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Handgun Radio 220 - Your 1890's Loadout

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Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, we discuss new gun purchases and your 1890’s loadout!

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Week in Review:

Weerd: had a short range trip,    and then I found I was light on ammo so I swung by a local shop….and bought a Remington Nylon 66

Ryan: Didnt do much but cleaned up my reloading area so hoping to do more of that this winter!

Name: Justin W

Subject: Ruger LCR for Pocket Carry?

Message: Hey Guys,

Love the show! Look forward to every episode, it really rounds out the offerings of the FRN!

Quick question:

I currently carry a CZ P07 IWB and am looking into a pocket carry option for times when the CZ is impractical. I am very drawn to the Ruger LCR in .38 or .327 Fed Mag but am not sure how it would work as a strictly pocket carry gun with regards to the size. I realize a LCP or Kahr CW380 might be a leaner footprint but man I like that LCR and would love to have a DA revolver in my collection! I seem to remember that Weerd is fond of his .357 and would love to hear both of your opinions. I am 6'4 and 190# if that helps.

Keep up the great work!

Thanks

Justin

Drink Segment: White Empress Cocktail

Main Topic: Old-New West Handguns

Smith & Wesson Model 3

Smith & Wesson Safety Hammerless

Colt New Army & Navy

Merwin & Hulbert

Semi-Autos:

Lugers (or Belgian Automatic Pistol)

Borchardt Pistol

Browning 1900

Wrap-Up:

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Handgun Radio 219 - Movies, Wadcutters & Listeners

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

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This week, we talk some good movies, good actors, wadcutters & some listener questions!


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Week in Review:

Ryan:

Historical Games: Red Dead Redemption 2


Weerd: Chazz Palminteri And Treat WIlliams Mulholland Falls


Drink Segment:  Email from Listener Tony


“Hey Weerd,

The Rye Whiskey you and Ryan were talking about was it the Bonded or regular Old Overholt? I have been wanting to start trying Rye whiskeys, thought this would be a good start. DO you suggest straight up to start with? What other suggestions do you have? I am a  Tanqueray Guy, what gins do you prefer?”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 





Listener Emails:

Name: Skyler

Subject: Episode suggestions

Message: Hi guys, I’m a loyal listener of the podcast and I have a suggestion for a main topic. C&R licenses? How to get one. Are they worth it? How difficult are they to maintain? WHY DOESNT RYAN HAVE HIS YET?! If nothing else I hope this gets Weerd to start asking about it every other episode. Thanks for your time and I really appreciate the podcast. You’ve really helped to provide a new gunner with solid information in an entertaining way. Keep up the great work.


Lawrence

Hi Ryan,

Lawrence here. I just got my hands on this Taurus Spectrum and really like it. I know Weerd is not much of a fan of Tauruses, but I like to come to own conclusions.

You can say my name on the show when you think you should.

Keep up the excellent work guys.


Name: Graham

Subject: Taurus revolvers

Message: What's the verdict on Taurus revolvers? There's a local listing for a raging bull in .454 casull with 300 rounds for 750. Seems like a steal. Are they decent? Can they handle the big Magnum?

William

Wadcutters for self defense?

https://americanhandgunner.com/45-wadcutters-slow-and-steady-wins/



Wrap-Up:


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Until next week, have fun and safe shooting!


Handgun Radio 217 - Listeners!

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Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.


This week, we talk some more firearms news and Listener emails!


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Week in Review:  


Ryan: Played Gigs

-Unknown Soldier Pistols




Weerd:  Children’s birthday party.  Been a LOOOONG weekend. On the gunnie side,  haven’t had much time to hit the range, but I noticed the last time I was shooting I was pulling shots with my 1911.     The only excuse I can think of is lack of dry-fire practice. So since I have this 1st Gen M&P, and those crappy triggers improve with dry-fire,  this is a match made in heaven.



Drink Segment:  Old Overhold 100 Proof rye

Bigelow Brewing Company Skowhegan, Maine




Main Topic:




Listener Email:


Will-

Dear Ryan,

Love the show, the banter, the insights, and knowledge in every week's

episode. Being an Alabama football fan I noticed today this news story

about the former coach Mike DuBose, who accidentally shot himself in

the torso with his .38 while mowing the grass. He carries while mowing

'in case of snakes.' This made me wonder how this could have happened,

i.e. an accidental discharge of a revolver while carrying. I know

you're a revolver man and regularly carry; any ideas about this

particular case based on the limited information available and any

hints for safe revolver carry? Article linked below.

Thanks!

best,

-Will

http://www.mrcolionnoir.com/woman-dies-after-accidentally-shooting-herself-in-the-head-at-missouri-gun-range/



Name: Skyler

Subject: Episode suggestions

Message: Hi guys, I’m a loyal listener of the podcast and I have a suggestion for a main topic. C&R licenses? How to get one. Are they worth it? How difficult are they to maintain? WHY DOESNT RYAN HAVE HIS YET?! If nothing else I hope this gets Weerd to start asking about it every other episode. Thanks for your time and I really appreciate the podcast. You’ve really helped to provide a new gunner with solid information in an entertaining way. Keep up the great work.


Name: Mike

Subject: Taurus

Message: Enjoyed the show on Taurus. My first carry gun was a Taurus pt111. Even bought a 24/7. The pt111 would not shoot a full magazine without a misfire. Shipped both back for recall. It took them ten months to get the last one back. What a lack of customer service. I doubt I would ever purchase a Taurus again.


Name: Mark

Subject: TAURUS PROGRAM

Message: I don't own any Taurus products but the show was pretty incredible. I would like to see similar shows about other manufactures.


Like SIG Sauer, Steyr, F B Radom, Zastava, CZ, FEG, Star, Para Ordnance, Heckler & Koch, Nambu, Lahti etc.

You guys are doing a great job. The Best program on the network.


For Weerd, I haven't found a bartender anywhere that can make a Sazerac.


Wrap-Up:


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Until next week, have fun and safe shooting!



Handgun Radio 216 - Used Handgunning

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Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, we discuss guns that you rarely find used and guns you can always find used!

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Week in Review:


Ryan: -Glock 45

-Tornado Technologies Oxy22 Micro


Weerd: Got a M&P 45 1st Gen, that will eventually become Project Bear gun .460 Rowland

Gun Rights Policy Conference in Chicago

Drink Segment: The Guys from Geeks Gadgets set up a GREAT bar at GRPC.   The star of that lineup were some drinks from Blaum Bros Distillery in Galena Illinois.

Main Topic: Guns You Always Find Used & Guns you Rarely Find Used

Always Used:

-Pistols in .40 S&W in general

-Taurus Semi Autos

-S&W Revolvers

- .38/.357 Revolvers

Heavy Recoil guns

Rarely Found Used:

-S&W 422 .22 LR

-.22 Full Size Revolvers

-Lightweight Commander 1911’s

-Super High End Guns

Wrap-Up:

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Until next week, have fun and safe shooting!


HGR 215 - Shooting Guns in a Different Way!

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

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This week, we are joined by Jordan Bell of The Firing Pen to discuss shooting guns with cameras and the Shootists Holiday!


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Week in Review:


Ryan: New CZ Scorpion Bullpup


Jordan:

Got a new set of TruGlo Tritium Pro sights for my Walther CCP M2.
My parents are in London.
I got a new camera tripod and bag.

Talked to buddy, fellow photog and friend of show, Manuel Lora. HEY, NRAAM 2019~ Y’all come on down to Indy. We can have a big bash!
Main Topic:

First two, fully me, stand alone articles for Combat Handguns.

1 - Easy Running Guns and Gear. Talk about that.  Sep/October Out Now? Haven't seen it yet, but so many place are banning gun magazines so I am not surprised.

2 - Walther CCP M2. Talk about that. Hey, I kept both the guns. Jan/Feb 2019

Writing PLUG - Tamara Keel, big inspiration. Lives in my town. Segue into photography. Mention “A view from the porch” https://booksbikesboomsticks.blogspot.com/  --Story about being named dropped “Fellow Gun Writer, Jordan Bell” in Shooting Illustrated. PEAK FANBOI!

Photography. Next two guns on my plate. Stribog 9mm subgun. Cimarron SSA clone coolness.

Photography, extra topics. What I do, how I go about doing it? What are my standards? Where do I want to go from here? What NON gun things do I want to take photos of? Mention Sarah Cade, Cade Imaging. Drone stuff, soooo rad.

BACK IN JUNE - Shootists Holiday, Ratone New Mexico. NRA Whittington Center. Best Range Facility you could want. Talk about who I met, who the Shootists are. Super tons of Networking.
YARD PARTIES! More fun than a barrel of gun industry heroes. Cigars, booze. Throw in a quick word for Bobby Tyler of Tyler Gun Works. Color case, gunsmithing. ETC


Personal plugs - The Firing Pen, on FB, Instagram. We had a dotcom but its been put on hiatus due to complexity of teaching yet another system for Dad to have to juggle. We were going to do YouTube, but we see how that went. Maybe one day we might be big boy enough for Full30.



Wrap-Up:


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Until next week, have fun and safe shooting!


Handgun Radio 214 - Vaporware

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Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, we discuss vaporware! Handguns that were promised but not delivered!  

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Week in Review:


Ryan: The video of the most recent range trip is up!

-Getting ready for a big 5 year anniversary party….you may not hear much from me for a few days!


Weerd: Hit the range this week.   Also swung by my favorite shop and found a bunch of new interesting guns.   There was a 686+ 3” unfluted I almost walked home with, and there was a used M&P 45 first generation,  for maybe $50 less I’d take it….maybe I should ask.


Drink Segment:

Grand Ten Distilling: Firepuncher Black



Main Topic: Vaporware!

Pietta Colt Python Clone

-Magpul PDR-C

-Magpul FMG-9

-Taurus Raging Judge 28 Gauge

-Merwin & Hulbert Reproduction

-USFA Colt Woodsman Reproduction

-Bren Ten Magazines (And the other companies; VLTOR,


Wrap-Up:


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Until next week, have fun and safe shooting!



Handgun Radio 213 - A Few Good Movies

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Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week we chat about the guns in some movies we’ve watched recently!

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Week in Review:

Ryan: -Got some more videos coming…..did some shooting with the Kimber and put some more rounds through the Sig P226. Great range days recently!

 

-AR 9mm with Thompson furniture.

 

-Colt “Shields”

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Weerd:

 

Drink Segment: Tea, because it’s morning.    But the Drink I want to talk about is the Jack Rose

2oz Applejack or Apple Brandy

1oz Lime Juice

0.5 oz Grenadine

True Applejack is what happens when you “Jack” hard apple cider.   Which is freeze distill it. This is actually quite dangerous as it concentrates the stuff you distil away like Methanol,  so most liquor made from hard cider is actually apple brandy
 

Main Topic: A Few Good Movies (And Guns!)

The Taking of Pelham 123 (THE GOOD ONE)

Thief

Hoffa

Ronin

Maltese Falcon

Heat

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Until next week, have fun and safe shooting!

Handgun Radio 212 - Questions?!

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

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Weerd wanted to have a listener questions show so here it is! Listener Questions!!!!

 

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Week in Review:

 

Ryan: Went to the gun show in Waterville it was a great time! Lots of cool guns

 

Weerd: Vacation is over.  Finished Reading Deadly Force by Mas Ayoob

 

Drink Segment: https://www.smugglersnotchdistillery.com/

 

Main Topic:

 

Mike Been thinking about making this my next purchase.. Ruger Vaquero Birdshead .45 acp.... thoughts?

 

 

1

 

 

Nolan If you could tour one factory whose would it be?

1

 

 

Grant What's your favorite kombucha flavor?

5

 

 

Ignacio Pries  How Ryan's life changed has since he got his C&R?

2

 

Ryan What is your favorite left field gun? I.e brand or type that isnt very well known.

2

Manage

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Dan Thompson https://www.outdoorhub.com/.../breaking-news-franklin.../

 

Franklin armory used straight rifling to make a gun that falls out of atf classification as a pistol or rifle …See more

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Dan TI just want a dang smoothbore 410 pistol with full choke lol. I've been thinking of ways to get a similar function.

 

 

Jason KA history and performance review of the .22 Magnum would be nice.....

2

 

 

Thomas TJ Would you rather nipples the size of... Wait, wrong show.

 

 

Kyle What is the most overrated/underrated handgun on the market today?

3

 

Russell Will S&W ever do away with their stupid built in lock? Why not?

2


 

 

Ian S Thoughts on the P365, some really varied experiences coming to light.

1

 

 

Ryan G What is the most painful handgun you’ve ever shot?

 

Do you think that anyone will produce a revolver more powerful than the .500 S&W?

 

 

WJ Morgan Pistol caliber carbines, yes or yes?

 

What new revolvers would you like to see on the market?…

Allen Eierman Sort of hand gun related...Delaware has just legalized pistol caliber rifles for hunting what would yall recommend? Given the rules in the picture


 

 

Russell Rusty Frederick For years I've heard of the Kittery ? I think it is Tradding Post in Maine. Is that close to you? Would it be possible to do an interview with those folks some time?


 

Greg Brown: With all the new laser technology out there now would you go with green laser or the standard red laser ?

 

Josh Smith If you were stranded on a desert island, with nothing except a case of 10W-30 motor oil, six goats, and a dead clown, what would you do?


 

 

Tate Mesman What is the most hipstery of the hipster guns.

 

 

Tate Mesman And why would someone do something this?!?! (Spoiler alert, I made this)

 

 

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Why WOULDNT you do this? thats so friggin awesome.

 

Wrap-Up:

 

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Until next week, have fun and safe shooting!

Handgun Radio 210 - A Good Bad Idea

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Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, we talk proper firearms storage and things we thought were a bad idea, but have come around to it being a great idea!

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Week in Review:

Ryan:

Always full of information

by Texas Pistolero on Jul 24, 2018

RATING: ★★★★★

🤠 one of the few podcasts that has good information and history of firearms.... every show - y’all keep it up now👍🏻

Defensive Creations Model 10

-Firearms Storage Safety - Negligence results in a tragic reminder  

-Firepits in wintertime? What do you do?

Weerd:  Busy Week,  hit the range, tested out some new ammo.   

Drink Segment: Wink and Nod Boston  Also I have Jalapenos and Everclear, so Jalapeno vodka will soon be back in my cabinet.

Main Topic: “Bad Ideas” that were actually maybe good!

-Taurus “Curve” But perhaps on a larger framed firearm. (Nod to Gun Nation Podcast)

-Full Conceal Glock

-Ruger LCR (Polymer Framed Revolvers)

-RMR’s (JUST FOR COMPETITION #lol)


Wrap-Up:

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Until Next week, have fun & SAFE SHOOTING!


 

Handgun Radio 209 - Newsbreak!

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Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

 

This week, we take a small break after the Taurus history episode with Daniel Watters and discuss some recent firearms news!

 

Brought to you by the Firearms Radio Network

 

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Week in Review:  

 

Ryan: -Had a couple of great gigs, one at a Country Club and one for some summer camps!

-Got some great emails about the Taurus episode so we will be speaking with Daniel about doing some other history episodes!


 

Weerd: Yard Sale.   Also The Assorted Calibers Podcast gave away a C-5 9mm AR Lower from New Frontier Armory,  and it was to friend of all of our shows Heinrich from Geeks Gadgets and Guns.


 

Drink Segment I am having a flight of Manhattans.    Using my 3oz cocktail glass I have 3 deminutive manhattans.   One is the standard 4 parts Rye, 1 part sweet vermouth with angostura bitters , garnished with a cherry,   one is a DRY manhattan with 4 parts rye 1 part dry vermouth, and orange bitters, garnished with a lemon twist, and a this new drink called the Coast to coast,  its 1 part sweet vermouth, 1 parts coffee liqueur (I used Allen’s Coffee Brandy) and 4 parts rye. No garnish, no bitters.




 

Main Topic: NEWS BREAK

 

FN 509 Tactical Released

 

9mm PMAG Conversion

 

Wildey is available!

 

LITTLEST SHOTGUN

 

Shockwave Semi Shotguns

 

Ruger Commander 1911


 

Wrap-Up:

 

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  • Be sure to go like Handgun Radio on facebook and share it with your friends!

  • Leave us a review on iTunes!

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Until Next week, have fun & SAFE SHOOTING!

Handgun Radio 208 - Running The Bull - A Brief History of Taurus

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

 

This week, Weerd and I are joined by Daniel Watters to discuss the history of Taurus!!!

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Week in Review:

 

Ryan: Bought a new splitting maul, chopped some wood, had some friends over last night and enjoyed a fine CAO Italia (Which was delicious; kind of a sweet flavor but with some darker notes on the finish. Paired with a glass of Makers Mark 46) and burned some of the old rotten fence which made for fantastic firestarting wood. Also installed small solar lights on the top of each new fencepost with pipe straps which give some nice accent lighting in the backyard. I need to do an episode live from the backyard sometime!

 

-Rewatched “Executive Decision”.....lots of cool guns in that one!


 

Weerd:  Podcasting,  Assorted Calibers Podcast is giving away a C-5 9mm AR lower from New Frontier Armory to one of our patrons.

https://www.newfrontierarmory.com/shop/c-9-billet-lower/




 

Daniel:  My car finally died.  Twenty mid-western winters’ worth of road salt ate her up.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_inspection_in_the_United_States



 

Drink Segment: Got a new bottle of Rye Old Overholt  

Also can we get some listener emails on Rum.  I think others know this stuff better than I do.

 

Main Topic: A Brief History of Taurus with Daniel Watters

 

1934:  On July 6th, Presidential Decree No. 24,602 effectively places the Brazilian military in control of domestic arms production.  For the most part, it prohibits the production of military weapons by private companies, permits the production of firearms and ammunition for hunting, and makes no mention of civilian defensive firearms.  
 

1937:  In June, João Kluwe Jr., Ademar Orlando Zanchi, Oscar Henrique Purper, Eugênio Ervin Hausen, Herbert Müller, and João Guilherme Wallig make plans in their small workshop to create a tool and die company. The time is ripe to start a new business in Brazil as President Getúlio Vargas' “Estado Novo” (New State) policies include heavy government investment to develop the country's domestic manufacturing industry.
 

1939: In November, Forjas Taurus Ltda. (Taurus Forge) is formally founded in Porto Alegre, Brazil with an initial capital of Rs$ 600 million.

 

Taurus had initially ordered industrial machinery from Germany. However, these purchases were canceled with the outbreak of the Second World War.  The expansion of the war limits the potential for ordering the necessary production equipment elsewhere. Worse yet, there are no domestic suppliers for the necessary machinery within Brazil.  Left with no alternative, Taurus' owners decide to build their own machines. These are original meant to be used solely in-house, but they soon realize that they could also market these machines to other Brazilian companies.  The war also limits Brazil's supply of crude oil. In response, Taurus builds its own gasification furnaces. As steel becomes equally scarce on the world market, Taurus develops its capabilities for recycling scrap metal.

 

1941: Forjas Taurus produces its first revolver, the Model 38101-SO. The revolver combines elements from several manufacturers, including Colt's, S&W, and certain Spanish brands.  However, small arms are not yet the company's prime focus. (If I had to hazard a guess, the model number translates to  .38 caliber with a 101mm-long barrel.)

 

1945:  With the end of WW2 followed by the forced resignation of President Vargas, new government policies make it easier for Brazilian firms to import industrial machinery.  The world market is filled with the release of wartime surplus and the resumption of commercial production. With their domestic market no longer captive, Forjas Taurus redirects its production focus from industrial machinery to revolvers and hand tools.

 

1949:   On June 27, Forjas Taurus SA is incorporated as a Joint Stock Company.  

 

1951:  With increased demand, Forjas Taurus' manufacture and sales of weapons accelerates.  

 

1956:  Forjas Taurus begins expansion of its existing industrial complex and the construction of a new factory.

 

1964:  Forjas Taurus completes construction of its new factory.

 

March 31 to April 1 – The Brazilian military launches a successful coup against the civilian government.

 

1965: In January, the Brazilian military replaces Decree 24,602 with Decree No. 55,649, which enacts  Regulation R-105 - Regulamento para o Serviço de Fiscalização da Importação, Depósito e Tráfego de Produtos Controlados pelo Ministério da Guerra (Inspection and Control Service Regulation for Importation, Storage, and Shipment of Controlled Products by the War Ministry.)   Any small arms and ammunition imports have to be approved by the Ministry of the Army. Procurement preferences are to be given to domestic arms manufacturers whenever possible. Should a foreign manufacturer wish to open a factory within Brazil, the military is to consider the impact on domestic firms and to lay the groundwork for the eventual nationalization of production.

 

Moreover, the military gains even more control over the production of civilian firearms and ammunition, as well as their distribution and ownership.  Controls are set on the number of firearms held, along with their caliber. While the military will focus upon controlling production and importation, the Civil Police are tasked with monitoring and licensing the transfer of firearms and ammunition among the civilian population.

 

1967:  Admar Orlando Zanchi develops a new hammer block safety for the Taurus revolvers.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US3482348A

 

Forjas Taurus partners with the US import firm Firearms International Corporation to enter the US market.

 

1968:  Exports to US begin in quantity.

  

1970: Jan Winter, the founder and president of Firearms International Corp., sells his company to the Garcia Corporation, another US importer of foreign firearms. Garcia Corp. takes over importation of the Taurus revolvers.

 

Bangor Punta buys a majority share (54%) in Forjas Taurus.  While Bangor Punta had previously purchased Smith & Wesson in 1965, the two firearms manufacturers remained independent companies under Bangor Punta's ownership. S&W itself never owned Taurus, nor did Taurus take over a S&W-built factory. However, during the next seven years, technology and methodology was transferred back and forth.

 

1971:  Taurus' primary US importer becomes International Distributors, Inc.  

 

Beretta establishes Indústria e Comércio Beretta S.A. in São Paulo, Brazil.  At first, their primary product is the PR71 revolver series, made for commercial sale in Italy.  The PR71 series includes the .22 LR Velox, .32 S&W Long Audax, and .38 Special Tenax.  In the years to follow, Beretta will win large contracts to produce the PM12S submachine gun (MtrM M972) and later the Model 92 pistol (M975), for Brazilian military and government agencies.  As part of the terms of the contract, Beretta was required to build these firearms in Brazil with Brazilian labor. Oddly enough, full production of the Beretta 92 actually began in Brazil before it occurred in Beretta's own Italian factory.

 

(While I cannot prove this conclusively, the PR71 revolver look suspiciously like Taurus revolvers of the same vintage.  Given legal requirement to favor domestic arms manufacturers, I'm guessing that Beretta set up its Brazilian affiliate ahead of time in hopes of winning a contract for the PM12S, or perhaps even the AR70 rifle. However, they needed a way to get their new workers up to speed and keep them busy until such a contract was signed. Thus, they partnered with an existing Brazilian firearm manufacturer to provide parts for the local Beretta employees to assemble and finish for export.)

 

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/435371488960639810/

 

https://www.facebook.com/pg/armeria.malentacchi/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1838846129714939

 

https://fahrzeuge.dorotheum.com/en/auctions/current-auctions/list-lots-detail/auktion/12580-sporting-and-vintage-guns/lotID/355/lot/2239335-revolver-taurus-beretta-kal-22-l-r.html?currentPage=14&img=0

 

1974:  International Distributors' Taurus line currently includes two adjustable-sight small-frame revolvers - the Model 74 Sport in .32 S&W Long and the Model 94 Sport in .22 LR; one adjustable-sight medium-frame revolver in .22 LR – the Model 96 Target Scout; and four medium-frame revolvers in .38 Special – the fixed-sight Model 80 Standard and the Model 82 Heavy Barrel, as well as the adjustable-sight Model 84 Sport and Model 86 Target Master.  (In other markets, Forjas Taurus offers fixed-sight variants of the Model 74 and Model 94 known as the Model 71 and Model 93, respectively.  Without the adjustable sights, these are probably unable to qualify for direct US importation under the import point system set in place after the Gun Control Act of 1968 - GCA68.)

 

The Brazilian government implements the National Policy for Export of Military Equipment (Política Nacional de Exportação de Material de Emprego Militar - PNEMEM), a series of incentives for private and state-owned producers to export arms.

 

1977:  Polimetal - Indústria e Comércio de Produtos Metálicos Ltda. buys out Bagnor Punta's entire stake in Forjas Taurus.  The new investor group is led by Dr. Carlos Alberto Peranhos Murgel, Luis Fernando Costa Estima, and Herbert Haupt. Murgel is a US-educated engineer and former S&W employee, and Estima has been with Taurus since 1971.

 

International Distributors begins importation of the .38 Special Model 83, a heavy barrel variant of the Model 84 Sport. These appear to be the first of Taurus' medium-frame revolvers to use a revamped hammer block safety and frame-mounted firing pin.  (In other markets, Model 83 variants included the .22 LR Model 90 and the  .32 S&W Long Model 70.)

 

International Distributors announces a recall of Taurus revolvers due to drop safety issues.  It includes earlier versions of all of the models except for the Model 83.

http://firearmsid.com/recalls/FA_Recalls%205.htm

 

Improved adjustable rear sights begin to appear on the medium-frame revolvers, starting with the Model 86.

 

The cylinder flute serrations are eliminated.

 

1978: International Distributors begins importation of Taurus' two new medium-frame revolver in .357 Magnum - the fixed-sight Model 65 and the adjustable-sight Model 66.  
 

1980:  On June 30th, Forjas Taurus buys the entire assets of Indústria e Comércio Beretta S.A., including the drawings, tooling, and machinery.  This ultimately leads to Taurus' introduction of the PT92, a direct copy of the first-generation Beretta 92.  Taurus also produces a version of the Beretta PM12S as the MT12.  Work begins on developing a straight-blowback variant of the PT92 in .32 ACP, then the largest Brazilian civilian-legal semiauto pistol cartridge.  (Why would Beretta agree to this? Beretta already had the second-generation Model 92S design underway back in Italy, so perhaps it wouldn't hurt to leave the first-generation Model 92 design behind in Brazilian hands. Moreover, it saves them the trouble of shipping all of it back home.)
 

International Distributors begins importation of two fixed-sight small-frame revolvers: the Model 73 in .32 S&W Long (a heavy-barrel Model 71?) and the Model 85 in .38 Special.  The Model 85 is meant to be a direct competitor to the S&W Model 36 Chiefs Special.  It is Taurus' first revolver to use a transfer bar safety. It is also dispenses with the S&W-style trigger rebound slide for a simple guide rod.  In addition, the cylinder is now retained on the yoke by a collet bushing. The bushing snaps into the yoke barrel and is retained by the shaft of the extractor.  This allows Taurus to eliminate the cylinder lug on the side of the frame. The frame redesign also repositions the cylinder stop spring to a plunger protruding from the end of the yoke stem.  This eliminates the spring's retaining screw at the front root of the triggerguard.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US4391056A

https://patents.google.com/patent/US4391057A

 

1981:  International Distributors introduces the PT92 to the US market.

 

In October, Taurus International Manufacturing files for incorporation in Miami, FL.

 

1982:  International Distributors introduces the PT99, an adjustable-sight variant of the PT92.

 

Forjas Taurus introduces the .25 ACP PT51 and .22 Short PT53 semi-auto pistols, which are based upon the Beretta M950B Jetfire and Minx formerly produced at the São Paulo factory.  (These are almost certainly too small to qualify for direct US importation under GCA68.) In addition, two full-size .32 ACP semi-auto pistols are introduced – the PT57S and the PT57TA, based upon the PT92 and PT99 respectively.

 

Forjas Taurus conducts its first IPO, and is listed on the São Paulo Stock Exchange (Bovespa.)

 

1983:  Taurus introduces changes in its medium-frame revolvers.  This includes the extractor, ejector rod, bolt, hammer, and mainspring strut.  (At some point, Taurus also drops the pinned barrel and implements an integral frame seat for the mainspring cap.)

 

Taurus International Manufacturing Inc. takes over importation for the North American market.  Carlos Murgel serves as President/CEO, with Bruce L. Savane serving as Executive Vice President/COO.

 

The US introduction of the PT51 semi-auto pistol is teased, as is its new double-action counterpart - the PT22.  The latter design evolved from the PT55, which itself was based upon the Beretta M20 Bobcat.  (Again, these cannot be imported as-is due to GCA68.)
 

1984: Taurus International introduces its unqualified Lifetime Repair Policy at SHOT Show. This is the brainchild of Bruce Savane.

 

Forjas Taurus introduces the new style reversible magazine release, ambidextrous thumb safety, and firing pin safety with the PT92AF, PT99AF, and PT57AF.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US4539770A

 

1987:  Forjas Taurus introduces the .32 ACP PT57SC, a compact variant of the PT57AF.

 

In December, the .380 ACP becomes an unrestricted caliber for Brazilian citizens due to Army Ordnance No. 1,237.

 

1988:  The PT58S pistol is introduced to the US market.  It is a .380 ACP variant of the .32 ACP PT57SC.  (The full-size version of the PT58S will ultimately become available in other markets as the PT59.)
 

On the revolver side, the Model 669 .357 Magnum is introduced.  It is essentially a Model 66 with a full-length underlug, akin to the S&W L-frame.

 

1989:  The Model 94 revolver is reintroduced with a 9-shot .22 LR cylinder.  It uses the same lockwork and cylinder retention bushing pattern as the Model 85.  A vent-rib variant of the M669 is introduced as the Model 669VR.  (At some point, Forjas Taurus has begun offering a ventilated rib barrel variant of the Model 66 - the Model 67.  Ventilated-rib .38 Special models are also available - the fixed-sight Model 87 and the adjustable sight Model 88.)

 

The PT91AF, a variant of the PT92AF chambered in .41 Action Express, is announced.  In addition, the PT92C Compact and PT91C Compact are teased, as well as conversion slides for their full size counterparts.  (I believe this is around the time that Forjas Taurus produces prototype 10mm and .357 Magnum variants of the PT92 family.)

 

The Model 85-style transfer bar safety, revised lockwork, cylinder retention bushing, and cylinder stop plunger begins its introduction in all legacy medium-frame models.  A new adjustable rear sight design is also introduced across the board for the medium-frame revolvers. The four-screw sideplate is dropped for a three-screw version.
 

1990: Taurus International's new US headquarters opens in Miami, FL with over 30,000 sq. ft. of manufacturing and office space.

 

The PT91AF, a variant of the PT92AF chambered in .41 Action Express, is introduced.

 

Taurus also teams with Laser Aim to offer laser-mounted variants of the PT92 and M669VR.

 

1991: The tri-position safety/decocker system for the PT92 family of pistols is introduced.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US5251394A

https://patents.google.com/patent/US5267407A

 

New products include the PT100 and PT101 - .40 S&W variants of the PT92 and PT99, and the spurless Model 85CH revolver.  The Model 669VR is redesignated as the Model 689.  (In other markets, a .38 Special variant of the Model 689 is available as the Model 889.)  New variants of the small-frame Model 73 and Model 74, as well as the medium-frame Model 76 are now chambered in .32 H&R Magnum, (Note that the Model 76 had been distributed for years in other markets in .32 S&W Long.)

 

The PT92C Compact is finally delivered.

 

Taurus International begins full US production of the PT22 and PT25 semi-auto pistols.  

 

1992: Taurus International introduces four new revolvers: a pair of small-frame revolvers - the 8-shot  Model 941 in .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire and the 6-shot Model 741 in .32 H&R Magnum, as well as a pair of 5-shot medium-frame .44 Specials – the fixed-sight Model 431 and the adjustable-sight Model 441.  

 

In December, the design of the bolt catch and its plunger is revised for the legacy revolvers.

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=BR&NR=9105696A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19930817&DB=&locale=en_EP

 

1993:  Taurus International introduces the 9x19mm single-stack PT908 semi-auto pistol.  Future variants in .40 S&W and .45 ACP are teased.  

https://patents.google.com/patent/USD363334S

 

The .32 H&R Magnum variants of the Model 73 and Model 76 revolvers are redesignated as the Model 731 and Model 761.  Also new are 'CP' ported variants of the Model 66 and Model 669.  

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=BR&NR=9601964A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19990112&DB=&locale=en_EP

 

The Taurus Custom Shop is unveiled.  Former Springfield Custom shop director Jack Weigand is the  primary design consultant.

http://www.jackweigand.com/taurus44.html

 

A Trophy Model competition revolver is teased. Writers samples are made in both PPC and NRA Action Pistol (Bianchi Cup) configurations.  (You can see an example of the Bianchi Cup configuration in the April 2005 issue of Handloader magazine.)

 

The consolidation of Forjas Taurus' pistol and revolver factories in Brazil creates the world's second largest handgun manufacturing facility. Approximately $20 million is invested in new machinery.

 

CCI and Taurus develop and test two new experimental cartridges – the 7mm CCI Rimfire and the .40 Taurus.

https://forum.cartridgecollectors.org/t/7-mm-cci-rimfire/12977?u=danielwatters

https://forum.cartridgecollectors.org/t/40-taurus-variations/5394?u=danielwatters

 

1994: Taurus International introduces their first large-frame revolver – the Model 44 in .44 Magnum.

 

Taurus handgun sales represent approximately 10% of the US market.

 

INMETRO grants Forjas Taurus an ISO 9001 certification for manufacturing and marketing operations.  It becomes the second firearms manufacturer in the world to receive the certification.
 

1995: Taurus International introduces the single-stack PT945, their first .45 ACP semi-auto pistol.  

 

They also introduce two new .357 Magnum revolvers – the small-frame Model 605 and the large-frame, 7-shot Model 607.  (In other markets, there was a .38 Special variant of the Model 607 known as the Model 837.)

 

The .22 LR PT52 semi-auto pistol is teased for the US market.  It has been under development since at least 1988.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US5195226A

https://patents.google.com/patent/US5666754A

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=BR&NR=9100301A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19920908&DB=&locale=en_EP

 

The Brazilian Institute for Nuclear Quality (IBQN) and the RWTÜV (Rheinisch-Westfälischer Technischer Überwachungsverein e.V.) individually grant Forjas Taurus with ISO 9000 certification.

 

1996:  Taurus International introduces the large-frame Model 608, the first factory production eight-shot .357 Magnum revolver.  (In other markets, there is a .38 Special variant of the Model 608 known as the Model 838.)  

 

They also introduce the single-stack PT940 in .40 S&W.

 

1997: Taurus International introduces the Model 454 Raging Bull revolver in .454 Casull.  

 

Two new fixed-sight revolvers are introduced – the 5-shot .44 Special Model 445 and the six-shot .357 Magnum Model 606.  

 

Spurless hammer “CH” variants of the Model 44, Model 445, Model 605, and Model 606 are now offered, as are ported barrel versions of the Model 85, Model 605 and Model 606.

 

The “Ultra-Light” aluminum frame revolver series is introduced with the Model 85UL, Model 94UL, and Model 941UL.

 

On the semi-pistol pistol side, the original single-stack version of the PT940 is dropped in favor of a new double-stack variant.  Related double-stack models include the 9x19mm PT911 (PT915 on global market?) and .380 ACP PT938.  A ported-barrel variant of the PT945 is introduced as the PT945C.  

 

The new polymer frame Millennium pistol series is introduced with the 9x19mm PT111.  

https://patents.google.com/patent/US6256915B1

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=BR&NR=9700178A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19981201&DB=&locale=en_EP

 

In September, Executive Vice President/COO Bruce L. Savane retires from Taurus International.  Taurus' West Coast sales representative Robert G. Morrison is selected as his successor.

 

Taurus International's MIM (Metal Injection Molding) Division is awarded a Grand Prize at the 1997 International Conference on Powder Metallurgy and Particulate Materials. The prize is related to seven  MIM parts designed for use in new Taurus revolvers.

http://www.modernapplicationsnews.com/articles/m003rop.htm

 

Forjas Taurus purchases the patents, designs, and production rights for Rossi small arms.  (The Taurus-Rossi agreement is never submitted to the Administrative Council for Economic Defense (CADE) of the Brazilian Ministry of Justice.)

 

Taurus debuts a new external key lock, the Taurus Security System, for their revolver product line.  

https://patents.google.com/patent/US5910003A

 

1998: Taurus International introduces two new fixed-sight 7-shot revolvers – the .38 Special Model 827 and the .357 Magnum Model 617.  Both are available in CH and CP variants.

 

Products announced or released at the end of year include the PT138 Millennium in .380 ACP, the 8-shot Model 22H Raging Hornet in .22 Hornet, the 6-shot Model 444 Raging Bull in .44 Magnum, the 6-shot Model 45 Raging Bull in .45 Colt, the fixed-sight 5-shot Model 415 in .41 Magnum, and the fixed-sight 5-shot Model 450 in .45 Colt.  The Model 415 and Model 450 are the first to wear the new Ribber Grips.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US5857279A

 

The Model 66 is reintroduced with a 7-shot cylinder.

 

1999: The Total Titanium revolver series is introduced.  The frames, cylinders, and barrel shrouds are constructed completely from Titanium.  Included are the Model 85Ti, Model 415Ti, Model 445Ti, Model 455Ti, Model 617Ti, and Model 731Ti.  There is also the Model 85MULT combining a Aluminum frame with a Titanium barrel shroud and cylinder.

 

The Total Titanium series are the first to use the new yoke detent design to keep the cylinder closed in the frame.   The older system of using a barrel-mounted locking bolt to catch the front of the ejector rod has been dropped in favor a detent plunger in the yoke engaging the frame.  With this change, the front of the ejector rod is now solid (not hollow) with a shorter center pin remaining to lock into the frame at the rear of the cylinder. This has the side benefit of allowing a longer ejector rod within the same barrel length.  Ultimately, all of the legacy revolvers (other the Raging Bull-series) will use this system. (The Raging Bull uses its own twin latch design.)

 

Other introductions include the fixed-sight 7-shot .38 Special Model 817 revolver, a snubnose variant of the Model 827.

 

On the semi-auto side, Taurus introduces the PT140 Millennium in .40 S&W, the PT400 in .400 Cor-Bon (a PT945 variant), the PT957 in .357 SIG (a PT940 variant), and .22 LR conversion units for PT92 family.

 

In March, Taurus International offers to share its Taurus Security System design with Smith & Wesson.

 

Late in the year, the new Tracker revolver series is introduced with the 5-shot Model 425 in .41 Magnum and the 7-shot Model 627 in .357 Magnum.  Both are available in either stainless steel or Titanium models.

 

2000: Taurus International introduces the Model 85CHMULT revolver fitted with a spurless hammer.

 

New in the Millennium-series are the PT111Ti with a Titanium slide, the PT157  in .357 SIG, the PT145  in .45 ACP, and the PT145Ti with a Titanium slide.  

 

A revolver chambered in .40 S&W is teased.

 

The Taurus Security System introduced in the semi-automatic pistol line.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US6438886B1

https://patents.google.com/patent/US6513273B2

 

2001:  Taurus International introduces the 12” barrel, 7-shot Silhouette revolver series, which includes the .22 LR Model 980, the .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire Model 981, and the .357 Magnum Model 66.  

 

The fully concealed hammer 5-shot CIA revolver series is introduced with the .38 Special Model 850 CIA and Model 850Ti CIA, as well as the .357 Magnum Model 650 CIA.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US6862830B2

 

The Tracker revolver series is expanded to include the .22 LR Model 970, the .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire Model 971, and the .357 Magnum Model 627 and Model 627Ti.  

 

The Raging Bull revolver series is expanded to include the Model 480 Raging Bull in .480 Ruger.

 

In March, Taurus International renews its offer to share its Taurus Security System design with Smith & Wesson.

 

In May, Forjas Taurus announces the development of Smart Gun (user proprietary) technology.

 

Later in the year, Taurus International introduces the PT132 Millennium in .32 ACP and the 7-shot Model 617 MULTI  and Model 617 MULTI-C revolvers in .357 Magnum.

 

2002:  Taurus International introduces the Taurus Hex, a new line of .45 ACP ammunition featuring all-copper hollow-point bullets produced by Barnes Bullets.

 

The partially concealed hammer 5-shot Protector revolver series is introduced with the  .38 Special Model 851, Model 851UL, and Model 851ULT, as well as the .357 Magnum Model 651 and Model 651Ti.

 

The Ranging Bull-series is expanded to include the 8-shot .218 Bee Model 218 Raging Bee, the 8-shot .30 Carbine Model 30C Raging Thirty, and the six-shot .41 Magnum Model 416 Raging Bull.

 

The Silhouette revolver series is expanded to include the .17 HMR Model 17 and the .218 Bee Model 217.

 

The Tracker revolver series is expanded to include the .17 HMR Model 17, the .45 ACP Model 455, and the .45 Colt Model 460.  

 

A new style thumb latch is introduced across the entire revolver line.

 

On the semi-auto side, the new .22 LR PT922 is teased.  This is a 6” barrel variant of their existing rimfire conversion on a PT92C frame.

 

2003:  Taurus International introduces the Millennium Pro series of its existing Millennium line and the brand new PT24/7 series in 9x19mm and .40 S&W.  

https://patents.google.com/patent/US7690144B2

 

A completely new version of the .22 LR PT922 is teased.  It almost looks like a polymer frame variant of the earlier PT52.

 

The small-frame 8-shot Model 17C and Model 17UL in .17 HMR are introduced.  (The previous Tracker and Silhouette variants of the Model 17 are 7-shot revolvers built on larger frames.)

 

The 5-shot 9x19mm Model 905 snubnose revolver is introduced.  The 5-shot .40 S&W Model 405 snubnose revolver is teased.

 

Silhouette variants of the .30 Carbine Model 30C and the .454 Casull Model 454 are teased, as is a new forearm support bar.  By the end of the year, the Silhouette series is renamed the Hunter series. (The Silhouette-series was apparently offered for the United Kingdom as the LBR-series, in combination with the forearm support bar.  The extra length of the barrel and support bar allows them to be Section 1 legal.  There also appear to be models made only for the UK like the 6-shot Model 456 in .45 ACP.)

 

A 7-shot .218 Bee Model 218 Tracker is teased.

 

In December, a new Disarmament Statute (Law no. 10.826) is passed and signed into law by Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva.  Among its many provisions, Article 55 allows the Army to prevent importation of foreign small arms chambered for .40 S&W, giving Forjas Taurus an effective monopoly for police agency sales.  Article 55 is described as the "Taurus Amendment" due to lobbying by the company's representatives, including retired Brigadier-General Antônio Roberto Nogueira Terra. From 1995-2001, Terra was head of the Controlled Products Inspection Board (DFPC) of the Ministry of Defense, which approved the import and export of small arms.

 

2004:  Teased semi-automatic pistols include the PT38S in .38 Super, a PT24/7 in .45 ACP, and yet another revision of the .22 LR PT922 is teased.

 

Teased revolvers include a Colt SAA lookalike, the Gaucho, in .45 Colt, a .500 S&W Model 500 Raging Bull, a 6-shot .44 Magnum Model 444MULTI “Hip Carry,” and a .44 Magnum Model 44 Tracker.

 

2005:  New semi-automatic pistols include the PT1911 in .45 ACP, the single-stack PT745 Compact Millennium Pro in .45 ACP, and the PT909 in 9x19mm (basically a PT911 with a full-height frame.)

 

The traditional double-action PT24/7 Pro series is introduced, including Long Slide (PLS) variants.  

 

The Gaucho revolver is introduced in .357 Magnum and .44-40 Winchester.

 

The 6” long/1.75” barrel Instant Backup revolver series is introduced in the 9x19mm Model 905 and the Model 17 as an 8-shot .17 HMR and a 9-shot .17 Hornady Mach2.

 

The .410/2.5” shotshell/.45 Colt/.44-40 Winchester Model 4410 “44 Ten” is introduced in a Tracker variant and teased in a Raging Bull variant.

 

The TRIAD revolver series with a multi-caliber cylinder (9x19mm/.38 Super/.357 Magnum) is teased in Model 85 and Model 627 Tracker variants.

 

In May, the Brazilian Securities and Exchange Commission (CVM) Board completes its 1998 investigation into the allegations of Forjas Taurus shareholders against Polimetal, Carlos Murgel, and Luis Estima.  The latter were accused of siphoning money from Taurus to Polimetal without providing any service in return. However, while Murgel and Estima are absolved of actual criminal violations due to insufficient evidence, the CVM states that they have abused their power of control over Forjas Taurus and are engaging in management irregularities. Both are fined R$ 320,018.62 apiece.

 

Forjas Taurus President/CEO Carlos Murgel dies in September.  Chairman of the Board Luis Estima takes over as company president.  Bob Morrison becomes President/CEO of Taurus International.

 

2006: The PT24/7 Pro is teased in .45 GAP.  Compact variants are made available in 9x19mm and .40 S&W.  Full-size and compact models with a Titanium slide are offered in 9x19mm.

 

The PT1911 is teased in 9x19mm, .38 Super, and .40 S&W, as well as a  CCO-sized PT1911 Compact in .45 ACP.

 

The PT58HC is introduced, which is basically a compact PT58 slide on a full-height PT59 frame.

 

New revolvers include the .460 S&W Magnum Model 465 Raging Bull.  

 

The Model 4410 Tracker renamed the “Forty-Five/.410.”

 

A 10mm revolver is teased in conventional and Tracker formats.

 

The Taurus Tactical division formed.

 

2007:  Modifications to existing pistols include the PT24/7 OSS variants with an ambidextrous safety/decocker and PT1911 with a Picatinny Rail frame.

 

The Model 4410 is officially redesignated the Model 4510 Judge.  Bob Morrison claims that the new name was derived from the interest shown by local judges in carrying the firearm in their courtroom.

 

A 7-shot .223 Remington Model 223 Raging Bull is teased.

 

2008: The hammer-fired, traditional double-action, polymer-frame PT800-series is introduced.  It includes the 9x19mm PT809, the .40 S&W PT840, and the .45 ACP PT845.  Bob Morrison teases the possibility of a 10mm Model 810.

 

The 9x19mm PT917 is introduced, which is roughly a PT92C slide on a finger-grooved, full-height PT92 frame.  (Eventually the finger grooved frame will be dropped.)

 

The PT1911 is now offered with Aluminum frames.

 

New revolvers include the 6-shot .38 Special Model 856 available in steel and “Hy-Lite” Magnesium frames, Judge Magnum models chambered for the .410/3” shotshell, and an UltraLite Judge.

 

Teased revolvers include the Model 590 Tracker for the recently revived 5mm Remington Rimfire Magnum and the Model 327 for the newly introduced .327 Federal Magnum.

 

2009:  The PT700-series is expanded to include two new variant lines.  The “Slim” variants (9x19mm PT709 and PT709Ti) are striker-fired, traditional double-action, single-stack polymer-frame models.  The smaller “TCP” (Taurus Compact Pistol) variants are the .380 ACP PT738 and PT738Ti, which are hammer-fired, DAO, single-stack polymer-frame models.

 

The new .45 ACP PT2045 is introduced.

 

The PT24/7 Pro LS is offered in .38 Super, and the PT24/7 Pro Compact is available in .45 ACP.

 

The 9x19mm PT609Ti Pro is introduced to the US market.  (The PT600-series has been available on the world market since at least 2006, including 9x19mm PT609 and .40 S&W PT640.  The PT600-series are Millennium variants built off of the larger Picatinny Rail frames of the PT145.  The larger frame allows use of the higher capacity PT24/7C magazine tubes.)

 

Polymer-frame “Poly” versions of the PT22 and PT25 are introduced.

 

The PT1911 is reintroduced in 9x19mm and .38 Super, and the new widebody PT1911HC 12-shot .45 ACP is announced.

 

New Judge-series revolvers include ported, accessory rail variants of the Model 4510TKR and the reduced profile Model 4510PD and Model 4510PD-Ti “Public Defender.”

 

Nine-shot Tracker models are offered with the .22 LR Model 990, .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire Model 991, and 5mm Remington Rimfire Magnum Model 590.

 

Forjas Taurus introduces the PT100P and PT101P “Plus” variants equipped with a new frame offering a Picatinny Rail and finger-grooves.   The Plus-series somehow manage to squeeze another five rounds into the magazine. (It appears to use a slightly fatter frame and magazine.)  

 

The PT638 in .380 ACP is also introduced.

 

2010:  The PT24/7 G2-series is introduced with Full-size, Long Slide and Compact variants in either TDA, DAO, or SAO configurations.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8925232B2

 

PT800-series Compact variants are introduced, including the 9x19mm PT809C, the .40 S&W PT840C, and the .357 SIG PT857C.  Rounding out the PT800-series are the .22 LR PT822 and PT822LS models, as well as conversion units for existing centerfire PT800-series pistols.

 

The PT700 Thin-series is expanded to include the .40 S&W PT740 and the .380 ACP PT708.

 

New Judge-series models include the Model 4510PD-UL Public Defender UltraLite and the Model 4510PLY Public Defender Polymer.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8826578

https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2011085457A1

 

The Raging Judge models are finally introduced with the 6-shot .410/3” shotshell/.454 Casull Model 513 Raging Judge Magnum and the 7-shot .410/2.5” shotshell/.45 Colt Model 513UL Raging Judge UltraLite.

 

The Model 85PLY Protector Polymer is also introduced.

 

The sole surviving founder of Polimetal, Luis Estima, announces his intent to step down as Forjas Taurus' president/CEO within.  However, he intends to remain as Chairman of the Board of Directors. Estima's transition is part of the terms for Taurus' pending membership in Bovespa's “New Market.”  Estima currently holds 94.1% of Taurus' voting shares and 31.4% of the total capital. Bovespa's rules demand the conversion of all capital shares to common shares with voting rights. The company has also raised R$ 100 million via unsecured bonds.

 

2011:  The metal/polymer frame PT2011-series is introduced, including the PT2011H “DT Hybrid” (9x19mm and .40 S&W) and the PT2011 “DT Integral” (.380 ACP, 9x19mm, and .40 S&W.)

 

The PT700 G2 Slim-series is introduced with the 9x19mm PT709G2 and the .40 S&W PT740G2.

 

Other new semi-automatic pistol variants include the .380 ACP PT638 Pro Compact and the .32 ACP PT732 TCP.
 

New revolver variants include the .44 Special Model 445UL, the .40 S&W Model 405, and the .357 Magnum Model 605PLY Protector Polymer and Model 605PLY-DT (the latter has a reversed Colt-style cylinder rotation.)

 

The Instant Backup-series is revived with .380 ACP Model 380IB Mini Revolver.

 

The Model 992 Tracker is introduced featuring a pair of quick-change cylinders for the .22 LR and the .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire.

 

The Model 528 Raging Judge XXVIII in 28 Gauge shotshell is teased.

 

Bob Morrison retires as Taurus International's President/CEO.  Morrison selects Mark Kresser as his successor.

 

Forjas Taurus takes on R$ 165 million in debt from its parent company Polimetal.  This raises Taurus's debt from R$ 183.3 million to R$ 348.3 million. Part of the debt is blamed upon the loans that Polimetal first took out in 1977 to buy out Bangor Puntas' interest in Taurus, followed subsequent loans Luis Estima took out in the early 1990s and in 2005 to buy out the shares formerly owned by his two late partners Herbert Haupt and Carlos Murgel.  In return, Estima is to step down as company president and will transfer more than half of the company's common shares to other shareholders, leaving him with only 43.8% remaining.

 

2012:  In January, Forjas Taurus purchases  Steelinject, another Brazilian MIM manufacturer.

 

In April, Taurus International buys Heritage Manufacturing, Inc. In September, the Heritage plant is relocated from Opa Locka, FL to the Taurus plant in Miami.

 

Brazilian laws regarding foreign investment in domestic factories is loosened.

 

2013:  The Millenium G2-series is introduced in 9x19mm and .40 S&W.  

 

In January, Taurus Holdings enters into an Agreement for Exclusive Global Distribution with Diamondback Firearms LLC.
 

The Steelinject plant in Caxias do Sul is relocated to Forjas Taurus' São Leopoldo plant.

 

The Rossi long arms production line is also relocated to the São Leopoldo plant.  Plans are prepared to eventually move all of Forjas Taurus' firearm production from the Porto Alegre plant to the São Leopoldo plant.

 

The São Paulo State Military Police (PMSP) recall all 98,000 Taurus PT24/7 DS pistols in their inventory.  It had been discovered that some of the pistols could be fired without the trigger being pulled, even with the manual safety engaged.

 

In December, the Brazilian Ministry of Defense certifies Forjas Taurus as a Strategic Defense Company.  This qualifies Taurus for future domestic military contracts.

 

2014:  The Model 85VTA View revolver is introduced.  It is later replaced by a “No View” variant, with the clear polymer sideplate replaced with a conventional metal substitute.

 

In July, the Brazilian ammunition manufacturer Companhia Brasileira de Cartuchos (CBC) buys out Chairman Luis Estima's remaining Forjas Taurus stock.  Combined with earlier stock purchases, this makes CBC the majority owner of Forjas Taurus. (Estima was already in hot water over using Estimapar's (a family-owned holding company) voting rights to block a shareholder investigation into the questionable sale of Taurus's Máquinas Ferramenta  (machine tool) division in 2012/2013 to hide an equally questionable loan made in 2004 leading to the acquisition of Wotan Máquinas. In November, Estima resigns from the Board of Directors, and a month later, Taurus shareholders agree to file a lawsuit against Estima.)

 

The new owners purge Taurus International's leadership.  Anthony Acitelli replaces Mark Kresser as President/CEO.

 

A patent applied for a two-shot revolver design.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US9316452B2


 

2015:  The PT180CRVL Curve pistol in .380 ACP is introduced.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8720094

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8733008

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8752322B2

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8966799

https://patents.google.com/patent/US9127903

https://patents.google.com/patent/USD687505S1

 

New variants of existing models include the Model 85ULCH revolver with a removable hammer spur.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20180010873A1

 

The PT738WGS is introduced with flip-out 'wings' to assist in racking the slide.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US9239207

https://patents.google.com/patent/US9546843

 

Forjas Taurus confirms its plans to move all of its firearm production from the Porto Alegre plant to the São Leopoldo plant by early 2016.

 

Forjas Taurus introduces the PT838 in .380 ACP in other markets.

 

In May, Taurus International agrees to a $39 million settlement in the Carter v. Taurus class action lawsuit.  Besides the attorney payments of $9 million, $30 million in cash will be set aside to cover payments to owners of the following models - PT111, PT132, PT138, PT140, PT145, PT609, PT640, PT745, and PT24/7 - including the Pro variants.  (The G2 variants are not involved.) The owners may return their pistols for repair or a refund. The refund is ridiculously low, starting at a maximum of $200, but potentially scaling as low as $150 depending upon the number of refunds demanded.  If the pistol cannot be repaired, it will be replaced with a new production equivalent model, such as a Millennium G2. The expectation was that most returned pistols would be replaced as Taurus had not yet developed a fix for the issue. It is estimated that if all of the affected pistols (nearly a million) are returned for replacement, the final cost might be as high as $239 million.

http://web.archive.org/web/20180422185324/http://www.tauruscartersettlement.com/


 

2016:   In July, the Sergipe State Federal Public Prosecutor's Office opens a Public Civil Inquiry to investigate the Brazilian Army's oversight of the quality of small arms and ammunition provided to Brazilian law enforcement agencies.  As mentioned earlier, Brazilian firms like Forjas Taurus and CBC have held a basic monopoly for decades due to the laws passed in the mid-1960s. The inquiry was launched in response to a request from the Sergipe Civil Police's Grupo Especial de Repressão e Busca (GERB) tactical unit to procure non-Brazilian pistols due to their lack of confidence in their issue Taurus PT24/7 PLS pistols.

 

In October, the Federal District Prosecutor's Office opens a Public Civil Inquiry to investigate the use and employment of Taurus' small arms by the Federal District Civil Police; whether it is necessary to replace the Taurus weapons; Taurus' responsibility for the accidents experienced by the DF Civil Police; the relationship of the high prices paid for the Taurus products and the company's monopoly position; and the injury to the public opinion of the DF caused by the acquisition of defective equipment.

 

The State of São Paulo suspends Forjas Taurus' ability to bid on state contracts for two years in response to sanctions issued by the São Paulo Military Police (PMESP.)

 

The Brazilian Army bans the commercial sale of the PT24/7.

 

2017:  The new T-series semi-auto pistols are teased in full-size and compact models in  .380 ACP, 9x19mm, and .40 S&W. These include the hammer-fired TH-series and the striker-fired TS-series. (The TS-series is based on Wilhelm Bubits' BB6 design.)

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20180031341A1

 

The .380 ACP Spectrum-series is teased.  The Spectrum is the first Taurus firearm to be completely designed within the US.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20180112945

 

Forjas Taurus introduces the PT838C in .380 ACP.

 

Work begins between the Brazilian Congress and the Ministry of Defense to amend R105 to loosen the rules on importation of foreign arms and ammunition.

 

In July, the Federal Public Prosecutor's Office in Sergipe issues its findings from its year long investigation.  It includes a extensive list of failures experienced nationwide with firearms from Taurus and IMBEL, as well as ammunition from CBC.  It also accuses the domestic firms of price gouging due to their monopoly position. (Note that the Taurus models listed even include the legacy metal-frame pistols as well as the newer PT800-series, not just the Millennium and 24/7-series  pistols previously recalled in the US.)

 

The prosecutor in charge of the investigation, Lívia Nascimento Tinôco, requests a judicial injunction to prevent domestic sales of the PT24/7 PLS, PT840, PT740, PT640, PT100P, and PT100 pistols (as well as the MT40 SMG and CT30 and CT40 carbines) until quality control is improved.   Taurus is to issue a national recall of these models for repair, replacement, or refund. Moreover, the Brazilian Army is to be restricted from using R105 to prevent the importation of foreign small arms and ammunition. Finally, Tinôco requests that Taurus and the Brazilian Army be fined R$ 45 million in damages.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mpf.mp.br%2Fse%2Fsala-de-imprensa%2Fdocs%2Facp-taurus

 

In response, the 2nd Federal Court orders Taurus to come up with a plan to recall the 10 models within 90 days, but declines to order a stop of domestic sales.  Taurus appeals the ruling, and in November, another court strikes down the recall order.

 

Anthony Acitelli resigns as President/CEO of Taurus International to take a position with Remington Outdoor.  The company's Executive VP/CFO, David Blenker, is tapped as Acitelli's replacement. Blenker has served as company CFO for the last 20 years.

 

2018:  New semi-auto pistols include the 9x19mm G2c-series.

 

The TH9 and TH9c are introduced on the US market.

 

The PT1911 is offered in Commander and Officer ACP size variants.

 

New revolvers include the .44 Magnum Model 44H Raging Hunter and the 7-shot Model 692 with quick-change cylinders for .357 Magnum and 9x19mm.

 

Taurus reduces its Unlimited Lifetime Repair policy to one year for all new firearms models introduced after January 1, 2017.

 

In April, Taurus International announces its official intent to move its US headquarters from Miami, FL to Bainbridge, GA.

 

Something is brewing at Forjas Taurus, with shareholders being asked to voting on changing the company's charter, including renaming the company.  The Board of Directors wants to drop the word “Forjas” as the company stopped providing forgings to third parties in 2014.

 

Wrap-Up:

 

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  • Daniel Where can people find you? LooseRounds.com

 

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Until Next week, have fun & SAFE SHOOTING!

 

Handgun Radio 207 - Mouse Guns Part Deux!

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

 

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This week its Mouse Guns Part Deux! Small Guns in Big Calibers!

 

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Week in Review:

 

Ryan: Repaired a rotten fence in my backyard…..I am exhausted and sunburnt.

 

Weer’d: Just got back from a children’s birthday party.  Mini-golf and sugar overload. Didn’t go as bad as I had expected,  everybody behaved themselves and had a good time.

Also I’m proud to say that my daughter earned a yellow belt at her Martial Arts school.   It’s a very cool school that does mostly MMA training, and the Instructor is all about practical self defense,  and he’s an NRA instructor.

 

Drink: So I’ve been thinking about this ever since I made a rhubarb crumble spiced with cardamom.   They went so well together, I’ve been thinking about my bottle of Ransom Old Tom Gin. I’ve never mixed this gin with anything before so I was a bit nervous that I might have wasted some expensive gin.

Nope, it’s AWESOME!

2oz Ransom Old Tom Gin

1oz Fresh Lime juice

0.5 oz Rhubarb Syrup


 

Main Topic: Mouse Guns Part Deux

This time we decided to take a different approach to “mouse guns”. Small guns in big calibers. And when we say small, Glock Subcompact is the uppermost size limit. I know some people may not say they are “mouse guns”.

 

Smith & Wesson Shield

 

Sig Sauer P290 & P365

 

Kimber Micro 9 & small “1911” 9mm’s

 

Springfield XDS

 

Rorhbaugh R9

(Now Remington RM380)

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/11/eric-nelson/gun-review-rohrbaugh-r9s-stealth/

http://www.mouseguns.com/PocketAutoComparison.pdf

 

Kahr Guns (CM9, PM45, etc)

 

Glock Subcompacts (26,27, so on)

 

Heizer & Pocket AR

 

Beretta Pistols (Nano)

 

Kel Tec PF9 & P11

https://www.weerdworld.com/2014/a-little-gun-geekery/

 

Walther PPS

 

.357 J-Frames & Misc

 

Wrap-Up:

 

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Until Next week, have fun & SAFE SHOOTING!

 

Handgun Radio 206 - Making The Most Of Your Gun Store & Training Experience

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Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, we discuss making the most of your gun store experience and choosing a trainer!

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Week in Review:

Ryan: BIRTHDAY BASH! (Music, Fire, Smoked Pork BBQ chicken) Got 100 rounds of 9mm and a nice smith and wesson tshirt!

-Replaced Batteries in dads Kimber.
 

Weerd
 

Drink Segment: Bourbon

Farmgirl Nancy:  Mezcal, Muddled Cucumber and Ginger, Lime Juice, Honey Simple Syrup.

Main Topic: Making the Most of Your Gun Store & Training Experience!

-Dont be afraid to ask for help!

-Dont be an A-hole.

-You don’t know everything

-Neither does the employee behind the counter (but they still most likely are pretty knowledgeable)

-Know your prices before going in.

-Try to support your local gun store in little ways, even if you arent buying a gun. Accessories, ammo, etc. Anything goes a long way toward making sure we have strong local shops instead of incompetent big box stores.

-Understand that a gunstore is still a business with a bottom line, and understand what constitutes a reasonable value/price when it comes to a purchase or trade.

-Muzzle Control, make sure the firearm is clear. The “gun store handshake”. (Cop Desk Pop)

-Recommending the snubby .38 to the “lil ol lady”

Choosing a Trainer:

We know to stay in our lane….so here is some wisdom

From Nick at Practically Tactical:

1. An instructor who still trains
2. An instructor who says you need to train with others aka not dogmatic
3. Has a certain amount of credibility/reputation as a great instructor. Not just “nra certifies”

Another important one, which is a great talking  point that most don’t think about, is the instructor you choose is a reflection of your character. Imagine that instructor having to come to court and help defend you. If you wouldn’t want that instructor in front of a judge and DA, probably shouldn’t train with that person.

DA would paint a bad picture in a court case if you choose a bad instructor.

Wrap-Up:

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Until Next week, have fun & SAFE SHOOTING!

Handgun Radio 205 - Magmatics with Daniel Watters!

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, we are joined by Daniel Watters to discuss Magnum Automatics!

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Week in Review:

Ryan: working on a picket fence in my backyard & getting the house summer ready.

Weerd: had a ton of house guests over,  my house has been packed with people for the last few weeks.

Daniel: Check out the CNN P320 Report that lists more recent LEO accidents and injuries.

Drink Segment: Gin Cup (variation)

The classic Gin cup is

2oz Gin

1oz Lemon Juice

0.5oz Simple syrup

Muddled with mint.

 

I personally like that drink better with lime juice rather than lemon.

Tonight I realized that if you substitute rum for the gin, and rather than serving it straight up in a cocktail glass, you poured it in a collins glass over ice and topped with soda, that’s a Mojito.     So can you substitute the rum for the gin.

 

You can...but I really prefer the gin.

 

Listener Email:

Name: Oddball none

Subject: Beretta 21a and drink segment gripe

Message: Just finished listening to episode 203, where, among other things, you guys discuss the Beretta 21a Bobcat. You guys missed a key feature! Unloading the gun is fun. I've found, with mine, that if I hit the lever to cause the barrel to tip up and I don't have a finger in the way, the spring tension causes the barrel to flip up with enough force that the chambered round gets flung out and goes sailing down range.

I do have a complaint with the drink segment. The aviation sounded tasty, so I decided to buy the ingredients and try it. Unfortunately, I've discovered that cap on the Luxardo bottle is sharp enough that, if you aren't paying attention and pinch your finger in between the cap and bottle, it will quickly give you a nasty cut on your finger tip when closing the bottle. I believe the only solution to this is to demand that Weer'd make my cocktails the next time we meet.

Keep up the good work,

Oddball

 

Hawthorn Bush Removal:

X18 looks like a promising solution

Might as well have a little fun with it!

 

Hi Ryan, if you’re talking about just killing a bush, glyphosates such as Roundup should be a systemic killer.  It inhibits amino acid synthesis, starving the plant of necessary building blocks. Copper nails also kill the whole plant.  

 

Physically removing it?  I can’t help there, sorry.

Keep up the good work!

Robert

 

Main Topic: Magmatics - The Magnum Semi-Auto Pistols

Gabbett-Fairfax Mars (Webley & Scott M1899/M1900 and Mars Automatic Pistol Syndicate M1901/M1906)

Hugh William Gabbett-Fairfax

Long-Recoil, Rotating Bolt / Single-Action

 

8.5mm: 139-150gr at 1,550-1,750 fps
https://translate.google.com&sl=es&sp=nmt4&u=http://www.municion.org/mars/8_5Mars.htm

 

9mm: 154-160 gr at 1,400-1,650 fps
https://translate.google.com&sl=es&sp=nmt4&u=http://www.municion.org/mars/9x26.htm

 

.360: 155-160 gr at 1,470-1,640 fps
https://translate.google.com&sl=es&sp=nmt4&u=http://www.municion.org/mars/360Mars.htm

 

10mm: 160-175 gr at 1,300 fps
 

.450 Short: ~220 gr
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.municion.org/mars/450MarsShort.htm

 

.450 Long: 216-250 gr at up to 1,250 fps
https://translate.google.com&sl=es&sp=nmt4&u=http://www.municion.org/mars/450MarsLong.htm

 

.472: Unknown but proposed at 1,000fps

 

Forward-mounted rotary magazine concepts from 1895 to 1897:

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=GB&NR=189518686A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=18970105&DB=&locale=en_EP#

 

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=GB&NR=189617672A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=18971110&DB=&locale=en_EP#

 

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=GB&NR=189617809A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=18971111&DB=&locale=en_EP#

 

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=GB&NR=189617808A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=18971111&DB=&locale=en_EP#

(Note the high-capacity conveyor belt concept)

 

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=GB&NR=189621664A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=18971230&DB=&locale=en_EP#

 

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=GB&NR=189716855A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=18980716&DB=&locale=en_EP#

 

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=GB&NR=189716853A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=18980716&DB=&locale=en_EP#

 

First magazine in the grip prototype in .360 Mars submitted to Thomas W. Webley (Webley & Scott Revolver & Arms Co.) in May 1898:

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=GB&NR=189809066#

 

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=GB&NR=189809067#

 

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=GB&NR=189809068A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=18990415&DB=&locale=en_EP#

 

Detachable stock (1898):

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=GB&NR=189808929A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=18990415&DB=&locale=en_EP#

 

Jacketed Hollow-Point (1899):

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=GB&NR=189904426A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=18990429&DB=&locale=en_EP#

 

1899: Webley & Scott produce twelve prototype pistols chambered in 8.5mm, 9mm, .360, 10mm, and .450 Long.

 

Original “production” model (1900):

https://patents.google.com/patent/US684055

 

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=GB&NR=190014777A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19010810&DB=&locale=en_EP#

 

1901: Mars Automatic Pistol Syndicate formed. At least 56 pistols were made, chambered for 8.5mm, 9mm, .360, .450 Long, and .450 Short. The 10mm Mars was dropped. A .472 Mars cartridge was proposed as March 1901 but its development was apparently never finished.

 

1903: Bankruptcy – Gabbett-Fairfax's patent rights claimed by creditors, and the Mars Automatic Pistol Syndicate continues under the new owners.

 

Improved design by Clement Brown (1906):

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19060927&CC=GB&NR=190525656A&KC=A#

 

1907: Production of the Mars pistol ends.

 

Kimball Arms (1955-1958)

John W. Kimball

Delayed-Blowback, Grooved Chamber and Floating Barrel / Single-Action

 

.30 Carbine (Other chamberings had been promised, such as .22 Hornet and .38 Special)

 

http://www.rockislandauction.com/viewitem/aid/55/lid/816

http://www.gunsmagazine.com/1958issues/G1058.pdf#page=48

https://www.google.com/patents/US2781697

https://www.google.com/patents/US2846926

https://www.google.com/patents/US2870562

 

Fred Stevens (1957)

Gas-Operated, Tilting Breech / Traditional Double-Action

 

.357 Magnum

 

https://www.google.com/patents/US3069976

https://www.google.com/patents/US3143819

 

Charlie Petty's interview with Fred Stevens can be found in the Nov/Dec 1983 issue of American Handgunner.

https://www.americanhandgunner.com/1983issues/HND83.pdf#page=32

 

NAACO Brigadier (1959)

Short-Recoil, Linkless Tilting Barrel / Traditional Double-Action

 

.45 NAACO: 230 gr at 1,600 fps

 

One pistol built, with a carbine conversion (Borealis) proposed. Displayed and demonstrated with great fanfare in December 1959. With tepid military interest shown at the demonstration, the investors quickly closed their checkbooks. NAACO files for bankruptcy 3 months later.

 

Auto Mag

Harry Sanford and Max Gera

Short-Recoil / Single-Action

 

Auto Mag Corp. (1970-1972: Pasadena, CA)

.44 AMP (Production)

.357 AMP (Production)

.300 AMP (Prototype)

.45 ACP (Five known prototypes, but proposed for production)

 

Trust Deed Estates (North Hollywood CA / El Monte CA)

 

Lee Jurras (Auto Mag distributor)

.41 JMP

https://www.amtguns.net/articles/lee-jurras/

 

Kent Lomont (Auto Mag custom builds)

.30 LMP

.25 LMP

.22 LMP

.45 AMP (Prototype)

https://www.amtguns.net/articles/kent-lomont/

 

High Standard (Rebadged TDE production assembled with their input)

 

TDE-Ordnance Manufacturing Corp. - El Monte CA)

B-Series (Solid bolt and other changes)

 

Ordnance Manufacturing Corp. (OMC – El Monte CA)

 

Arcadia Machine & Tool (AMT – El Monte CA / Covina CA)

C-Series, Limited editions and custom builds

.45 AMP (1980: Prototype)

.45 Win Mag (1980: Prototype)

 

Irwindale Arms Inc. (iAi - Irwindale CA)

Automag II-IV

 

AMT (Irwindale CA)

Auto Mag limited edition

Automag II-V

 

Brian Maynard (Maynard Arms Company - Auto Mag custom builds)

8mm KMP (Eric Kincel)

.40 KMP (Eric Kincel)

.475 AMP

 

Galena Industries (Irwindale CA / Sturgis SD)

Auto Mag limited edition

Automag II-IV

 

High Standard (Houston TX)

Automag II

 

Auto MagX (Max Gera)

 

Auto Mag Ltd. Corp. (Excel Arms – Florence SC)

 

https://patents.google.com/patent/US3780618A

https://patents.google.com/patent/US3889574A

https://patents.google.com/patent/USD228757S

https://www.amtguns.net/articles/bruce-stark/max-gera-interview/

https://www.amtguns.net/articles/

 

The 1980s/90s vintage Automag II, III, IV, and V were unrelated designs, credited to AMT's Larry Grossman.

 

https://patents.google.com/patent/USD316587S

 

Automag II (1986: .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire / Delayed Blowback)

https://americanhandgunner.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/HJF88.pdf#page=44

Automag III (1989: .30 Carbine and 9mm Winchester Magnum / Short-Recoil, Tilting Barrel)

Automag IV (1990: 10mm iAi Magnum and .45 Winchester Magnum / Wildcats: 9x30mm Dillon and .40 KMP / Short Recoil, Tilting Barrel)

Automag V (1993-1995: .50 Action Express / 1998: .440 CorBon / Short Recoil, Tilting Barrel)


 

Jeffredo Gunsight Company J-Mag (Mid-1970s to late 1980s)

John Jeffredo

Short-recoil, Rotating barrel / Single Action

Conversions for the M1911 frame

 

.45 J-Mag original / .41, 9mm, .308, .257, and 5.56mm variants added later

 

(We might mention the .451 Detonics Magnum, which was inspired by the J-Mag. This laid the groundwork for the later .45 Super, .450 SMC, and .460 Rowland. These also inspired necked down variants like the .40 Super, the stillborn .464 Rowland, and the .38 Casull.)

 

Wildey

Wildey Moore (with additional work by Bob Hillberg)

Gas-operated, Rotating Bolt / Traditional Double-Action


 

.45 Winchester Magnum (Production)

9mm Winchester Magnum (Prototype)

 

.475 Wildey Magnum – 250 gr at 1,763 fps / 300 gr at 1,533 fps

.30 Wildey Magnum – 110 gr at 2,315 fps

.357 Peterbuilt (.357 Wildey Magnum) – Originally named for Wildey employee Peter Hylenski – 125 gr at 2,370 fps / 158 gr at 2,123 fps

.41 Wildey Magnum (10mm Wildey Magnum) – 200 gr at 1,842 fps / 220 gr at 1,792 fps

.44 Wildey Magnum (11mm Wildey Magnum) – 200 gr at 2,027 fps / 240 gr at 1,740 fps

 

.45 Wildey Magnum – 250 gr at 1,730 fps

 

.357 AMP

.44 AMP

 

~1971: Moore convinces FFV to let him send gas-operated 9x19mm prototype pistols to Jeff Cooper and George Nonte.

 

1974: Moore begins filling patents for his new pistol design.

 

~1976: Moore forms Wildey Firearms Company, Inc. and contracts with Bellmore, Johnson Tool Co. for additional development work.

 

1977: Winchester reveals new .45 Win Mag and 9mm Win Mag cartridges under development for Wildey.

 

1978: Since BJT will not commit to full-production, Moore sets up own manufacturing facility in Chesire CT.

 

April 1982: First production pistols made.

 

Late 1982/Early 1983: Hostile takeover by investors results in bankruptcy and ouster of Moore. New company (IFD) is formed and production equipment moved to Newburgh NY.

 

Other potential investors side with Moore to create BPM Joint Venture (Bennett, Pennington, and Moore.)

 

June 1983: Wildey, Inc. formed to produce a new magnum pistol design, the Revelation.

https://americanhandgunner.com/1985issues/HND85.pdf#page=92

 

1984: BPM dissolved due to lawsuit from IFD.

 

1985: Moore contacted by Cannon Productions for original Wildey .45 Win Mag pistol to use as a prop in Death Wish III. As IFD currently owns the right to the pistol in that chambering, Moore proposes his new wildcat, the .475 Wildey Magnum.

 

April 1987: Former BPM partners help Moore finance buyout of IFD to regain rights to the original pistol design.

 

May 1989: Wildey, Inc makes public offering. Enough funds are raised to start new production facility in New Milford CT

 

1996: Bob Serva purchases Wildey, Inc. Wildey F.A., Inc. is formed.

 

2011: Wildey F.A., Inc. closes.

 

2015: USA Firearms Corp. purchases rights to the Wildey pistol.

 

2016: Production of the Wildey pistol resumes.


 

https://www.google.com/patents/US3988964

https://www.google.com/patents/US4208947

https://www.google.com/patents/US4221066

https://www.google.com/patents/US4291481

https://www.google.com/patents/US4373423

https://www.google.com/patents/US4638581

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20070306073908/http://www.wildeyguns.com/wildey.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20080704190846/http://www.wildeyguns.com/datafiles/BALLISTICS.pdf

https://americanhandgunner.com/1984issues/HMA84.pdf#page=48



 

Magmatic (Late 1970s - Early 1980s)

Jon Power

Gas-Operated, Rotating Bolt / Single-Action

 

Some suggest that it was the basis for Bernie White's Desert Eagle, but I have my doubts. The Magmatic was rather elegant, like an oversized Colt Woodsman.

 

.44 Magnum

.45 Colt

 

Coonan (Announced 1980)

Dan Coonan

Short-Recoil, Tilting Barrel / Single Action

 

Model A (1983: Traditional Browning swinging link)

Model B (1985: Linkless barrel)

Cadet (1993: Compact variant)

Classic (1994: Carry-Comp variant)

Classic (2009: Revised Model B)

Compact (2009: Revised Cadet)

 

.357 Magnum (Production)

.41 Magnum (1998: Rimless Prototype)

 

1985: Dan Coonan sells Coonan Arms to Bill Davis

1990: Coonan leaves company

1994: Coonan Arms files Chapter 11 Bankruptcy. Purchased by JS Worldwide Distribution.

1998: Both Coonan Arms and JS Worldwide are dissolved.

2009: Coonan, Inc. formed by Dan Coonan, Dave Neville, and Gordy Davis.

 

https://patents.google.com/patent/US4329802A

 

https://americanhandgunner.com/1983issues/HMJ83.pdf#page=40

 

Grizzly Win Mag (1982: North American Mfg. / 1983-1999: LAR)

Perry Arnett

Short-Recoil, Tilting Barrel / Single Action

 

Mark I (9mm Winchester Magnum, .357 Magnum, .357/45 Grizzly Magnum, and .45 Winchester Magnum)

Mark II (fixed sight Mark I)

Mark IV (1991: .44 Magnum)

Mark V (1993: .50 Action Express)

 

https://patents.google.com/patent/US4222308

https://patents.google.com/patent/US4253377A

https://grizzlypistol.blogspot.com/2007/01/arnett-patent-multi-caliber-conversion.html

https://grizzlypistol.blogspot.com/2007/02/arnett-patent-system-grizzly-technology.html

https://americanhandgunner.com/1985issues/HJF85.pdf#page=34

https://americanhandgunner.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/HJA87.pdf#page=94

 

Perry Arnett – Custom Browning High Power chambered in 9mm Win Mag

 

John Martz – Custom Luger Parabellum chambered in .357 Magnum

 

Magnum Research Desert Eagle

Bernard C. White, with later design work by Ilan Shalev

Gas-Operated, Rotating Bolt / Single Action

 

The original design is credited to Bernard C. White, who holds US Patent #4,563,937.

 

https://patents.google.com/patent/US4563937A

 

While working at IMI, Ilan Shalev received his own US patent related to improvements to White's design: #4,619,184. Shalev was also a member of the design team responsible for the Negev LMG and the Timberwolf pump-action rifle.

 

https://patents.google.com/patent/US4619184A

 

Eagle prototypes: Work begins in 1979. The initial prototype is ready in 1981, and is displayed at SHOT Show 1982. IMI is bought in to refine the pistol for production

Mark I (1983)

Mark VII (1989)

Mark XIX (1995)

 

IMI (1983 - 1995)

Saco Defense (1995 – 1998: Saco was bought by Colt in 1998, and later sold to General Dynamics in 2000.)

IMI (1998 - 2005)

IWI (2005 - 2009)

MRI (2009 - Present)

 

.357 Magnum (1983)

.44 Magnum (Announced 1986 / Production 1987)

.41 Magnum (1988)

.357/44 Bain & Davis (1989 Prototype)

.50 Action Express (1989 Prototype / 1991 Production)

.440 CorBon (1997)

 

https://americanhandgunner.com/1982issues/HMJ82.pdf#page=49

 

Taurus – Prototype PT92 in .357 Magnum (Late 1980s)

 

10mm Devel Magnum

Charlie Kelsey and George Reynolds

 

There was also supposedly a companion carbine.

 

https://www.google.com/patents/US4909129

https://www.google.com/patents/US4974356




 

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Until Next week, have fun & SAFE SHOOTING!



 

Handgun Radio 204 - Imitation

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Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, we talk about copies of handguns?

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Ryan:

Weerd:

Drink Segment:  I don’t have a name for it.   My Nephew who was visiting when I was figuring this drink out called it “Weer’d Beard Lemonade”,  which isn’t incorrect, but it isn’t a snappy name.

It is a very accessible cocktail as the one exotic ingredient is pretty easy to find these days.

2oz New Amsterdam Gin

1oz Lemon Juice

0.5 oz Rhubarb Syrup

Optional Fee Brothers Celery Bitters which is what I’m using,  but I saw this Cardamom Bitters which I imagine would work amazingly well.

 

The Rubarb syrup is very easy,  the hard part is finding Rhubarb, but I think you can find it in most grocery stores these days has it, and you don’t need much.

I used about 4oz of fresh rhubarb diced finely in a half-cup of sugar.    Then just mix them up and let them sit, and the sugar will leech out most of the water form the rhubarb and you should only need to add a little water to dissolve the rest of the sugar.
 

Main Topic: Imitations

FEG Hi-Powers

-Pietta

-Colt 1903’s

-Taurus Revolvers & S&W Taurus

-Taurus Semi-Autos & Beretta

-Beretta 1951 & Tariq

-Erma Luger

-LCP & Kel Tec

Wrap-Up:

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Until Next week, have fun & SAFE SHOOTING!


 

Handgun Radio 203 - Handguns for Non-Gun People

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

This week, we talk about handguns for non-gun people!

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Week in Review:

Ryan: Sparks From Titanium Firing Pin

From Daniel Watters:

Some metals just spark more than others on impact or under friction. If I understand correctly, these metals have typically formed a passivated oxide layer over their surface. However, when friction or impact break off tiny fragments of the metal, the metal can ignite from the combination of heat and the sudden exposure of the non-passivated surface to oxygen.

 

-Magmatics episode

 

-Email from William:

Name: William

Message: Just started listening to the show and I love it--working my way through your shows from the beginning. I was so excited to hear about the $179 deal for a black powder gun and kit on Brownells, but I assume that deal is long gone. Most of their black powder guns are out of stock now.

Weerd:

Drink Segment:   Desert Diamond Distillery Kingman Arizona

HGR 203 - Handguns for Non-Gun People

S&W M&P Shield EZ

Ruger LCR or Full-size steel-frame revolver

Glock 17/19 or S&W M&P 9/9c

https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/mp-9-m20-36-compact

Ruger Security 9

Taurus PLY22 or Beretta 21a  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heCm9rbF2Y0  

https://www.gunauction.com/buy/9004378

 

Wrap-Up:

 

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Handgun Radio 202 - NRA Show 2018 with Weerd Beard

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wild woods of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world.

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This week, we discuss Weerd Beard’s trip to NRA Show 2018 in Dallas!

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Week in Review:

Ryan: -Colt Cobra .38 and S&W EZ .380

-Brazil Woman Shoots Robber Happy Mothers Day!

Weerd:

Drink Segment:

Old Fashioned Cocktail

Old Fashioned Glasses

Cobbler Shaker  or Boston Shaker

Graduated Jigger

Squeeze Bottles

Juicer
 

Main Topic: NRA Show 2018

SIG P365

S&W Shield EZ,  S&W M19 returns,  S&W 360

Cabot Firearms

Ruger

Kanik

Kahr Arms Color Case Hardening

Bond Arms Bullpup

Ultimate Arms

Caracal

NAA

Tatiana Whitlock

Wrap-Up:

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