HGR 062 - Sig-Sauer Ammo and The Suppressor Experience with the Mad Aussie

Hello and welcome to Handgun Radio! I’m your host Ryan Michad from the wilds of Central Maine, and this is your home for all the news, information and discussion in the handgunning world. This week, It’s a somewhat solo show! I have a couple newer products to talk about and then for the main topic, I had a short discussion with my friend the Mad Aussie about what it was like for him getting suppressors and his enjoyment of them!

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Week in Review:

  • Earlier this week, I received a fantastic holster from Shan over at Werkz Holsters in Princeton, Idaho. It was an OWB Orgin holster for my Sig-Sauer P226 and it is extremely impressive! The fit is impeccable, the holster feels very solid and durable and it rides perfectly on the belt. I plan on having Shan on the show very soon, so I won’t go into a great deal of detail here, but I will say I have had a spotty history with those “one size fits alot” mass-produced kydex holsters (i.e. I haven’t been impressed) and the care and craftsmanship that goes into the Werkz holster is readily apparent. I highly recommend checking them out if you are in the market for a holster or mag pouch. Check them out at the link above!
  • I was recently at Cabelas and checking out the ammunition selection. I picked up some basic Remington 9mm 115 grain FMJ for practice and a box of the new Sig-Sauer Elite Performance V-Crown 9mm 124 grain Hollowpoint ammo. I had heard that Sig was getting into the ammunition game back around SHOT Show 2014, but I hadn’t actually seen any out in the wild until now. The ammo is loaded by a company that Sig does own, but the ammunition is not loaded at Sig’s factory in New Hampshire. At first glance I was impressed; the box of cartridges was selling for quite a bit lower than most of the other defensive ammunition at $17.00 a box. However, once I got home and actually started doing the research of current reviews, I have seen multiple instances of the ammunition not performing well during denim gel tests. I know that gel tests don’t take into account many, many different variables, but they are really the best test medium we have for understanding bullet performance. Given that most attackers do not run around in the nude, I was concerned about this lack of performance, specifically a lack of penetration. TNOutdoors9 did an ammunition test of the Sig ammo and had low penetration (7”) when using the 9mm in a denim gel test. I’m not sure if this is due to the design of the bullet itself, which has a VERY shallow hollowpoint with another deeper hollowpoint inside & underneath the first one. This design may just not lend itself to adequate penetrating properties when confronted with denim obstruction. Also, none of the rounds that Sig Sauer is marketing are +P rounds. The heavier 124 grain bullets would probably benefit from a +P loading. I am interested to try them out for myself, but at this point, I will stick with my usual 124 grain Winchester PDX1 9mm ammo.
  • Finally, I was recently looking around Amazon.com and a product was suggested to me, so I naturally clicked on it, being the curious type I am. It was the Garrison Quick Release Trigger Stay and no disrespect to the folks at Garrison, but it has to be one of the most insane “safety” devices I have ever seen. It is a rubber/plastic plug that you stuff behind the trigger INSIDE the trigger guard, which you then have to push out with your index finger before you engage the trigger and use the gun. First off, this product is marketed to people who pocket carry without a holster, which is a practice that I DO NOT want to see encouraged. It is simply not safe and does not keep the gun oriented in the pocket properly. Secondly, they say the product will “prevent against accidental discharge”.....so will a properly designed pocket holster that covers the trigger. This product, while I understand the thinking behind it (somewhat) requires the user to violate so many safety rules that I just cannot see responsibly recommending this to anyone. You should not be putting your finger anywhere inside the trigger guard unless you are on target and ready to fire. The potential for an accidental discharge when using this product is simply too great and I hope folks spring for a proper pocket holster rather than this device.

Now we are going to head into the main topic which is going to be the Suppressor Experience with the Mad Aussie. This won’t be a very technical or legal discussion about suppressors, it was more of a just casual discussion around the kitchen table about why he got into them and how he did and what he enjoys about using them!

Main Topic: Suppressors with the Mad Aussie

Way back on episode 016 we had my buddy the Mad Aussie on to talk about his firearms journey. This week, I have him here to discuss what it’s like to go through the process of acquiring a suppressor and why suppressors can make a firearms experience much more enjoyable & hearing safe!

1.) What got you interested/started in acquiring suppressors?

2.) Which companies have you dealt with for suppressors? (Manufacturers)

3.) What were some of the more difficult parts of acquiring a suppressor?

4.) What things should people look out for when going to buy a suppressor?

5.) In your opinion what guns have you been able to suppress the best?

6.) Are there any function/reliability concerns when using a suppressor on a pistol with a moving barrel?

That about wraps up the main topics, so now we are going to head into the obscure gun we want segment and the wrap up segment!

Obscure Gun We Want:

Ryan:  A reproduction of the Merwin-Hulbert revolvers (from a company that actually will produce them) A really neat old-west revolver!

Mad Aussie: Eugene Stoner Prototype AR-10


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