HGR 005 - Firearms Fallacies

HGR 005 - Firearms Fallacies

Ryan discusses some of the fallacies related to firearms, the defensive use of firearms and more!

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This weeks episode of Handgun Radio is going to be a little different than the past few episodes.  We are going to be talking about some of the things that a person who is new to the world of firearms may hear when at the local gun shop, gun show or perusing the online message boards & forums.  With the rise in firearms ownership, there are a lot of new gun owners who may hear these things and mistakenly believe them to be true. Hopefully we can clear some of that up on this episode.

Pre-Main Topic Discussion:

  • I want to talk a little bit about a local case involving two men, one of whom was a concealed carry permit holder.  This is my opinion and analysis of the case and how it is related to concealed carry.
  • While the case may be local, it can be applied nationally as an example of a concealed carry permit holder who was irresponsible, reckless, and negligent. As a result, a man has died and it paints concealed carry in a bad light. The majority of permit holders are responsible and thoughtful. This man was neither of those things and had no business carrying a firearm.
  • The permit holder, who we will call The Defendant ( we won’t name him because he doesn’t deserve any publicity) went to a local bar with his friend.  He had a legally possessed Sig-Sauer 9mm in his truck in the parking lot. Inside the bar & after some drinks, the defendants friend got into an altercation with the victim, which spilled out into the street in front of the bar. Outside, the defendant was sucker-punched by the victim.  The defendant and his friend chose to get in the defendant’s truck and drove away. Shortly thereafter, the defendant decided to return to the scene where people were still in the street. The defendant stepped out with his firearm in his waistband. He approached the victim, words were exchanged, and the defendant then shot the victim in the face, claiming he feared for his life.  He then ran from police and was apprehended a short time after.
  • What NOT to do when a concealed carry permit holder:
  • #1:) If you are going to a bar or any licensed establishment, with the intention of drinking, DO NOT CARRY YOUR FIREARM.
  • #2:) When you choose to get the proper permit and carry a firearm, you MUST let go of your ego; i.e. carrying a firearm does not make you invincible or a tough guy.  It makes you a well-informed citizen who has made the decision to go armed for personal protection.  
  • #3:) If you say to yourself “I only carry my gun when I think there may be trouble” you probably shouldn’t be going to the place where you expect trouble to be.
  • #4:) If you find yourself in the situation like the one above, DO NOT return back to the scene to make the situation worse.  Why in the world the lawyer for the defendant allowed him to claim self-defense when all the evidence and 50+ eyewitnesses said otherwise is beyond me.

By carrying a concealed firearm for personal protection, you are taking on a great deal of responsibility.  Please make sure that you are a responsible concealed carrier and help represent the millions of people who carry everyday in a responsible light.

Main Topic: Firearms Fallacies:

  • “If you shoot a person and they fall out your front door onto the porch, just drag the body in through your front door and it will be a good shoot.” - I can’t tell you how many times I have heard this uttered at the counter of a gun shop or told to someone new to the world of shooting.  I have even heard people back it up by saying that they were told this nonsense by a State Trooper, Sheriff, etc.  Wherever it is being heard, it is 100% false.  With new shooters potentially being told these things, the scene is being set for a tragedy when someone does this.  A good shoot is a good shoot. Period. If you tamper with evidence and the police or forensic examiners WILL find out, your honesty will immediately be brought into question.  Don’t cripple your ability to plead self-defense by doing something stupid in the aftermath of a defensive shooting.
  • “Don’t shoot anyone with that .25 ACP you’re carrying, because if they find out about it, they’re liable to get mad and beat you up!”- Being a fan of oddball or non-mainstream cartridges, I’ve heard this one a lot because I enjoy shooting the .25 ACP.  Yes, the .25 ACP is not a powerhouse round by any stretch of the imagination, but it is a bullet fired from a gun.  For the majority of the life of the .25 ACP pistols such as the Baby Browning or the Colt 1908 Vest Pocket, the .25 ACP could only be had in a 40 to 50 grain full metal jacket bullet traveling at 760 feet per second. Today however we have modern defensive loads from most of the major ammunition manufacturers. Hornady offers a 35 grain XTP Jacketed Hollowpoint round at 900 feet per second. Certainly not a guaranteed one-shot stop, but I wouldn’t want to stand in front of one.
  • “The higher the price, the better the handgun.” - Okay, this one is true, but only to a certain point.  Many new shooters will automatically equate higher price with better quality.  Now, in some ways this is true but in some ways it isn’t. Yes, a higher priced Les Baer custom 1911 is better quality, fit & finish etc. than a lower end 1911 for about $500. Does that mean that the higher priced gun will function more reliably than the $500 gun? Maybe, maybe not.  You can get a reliable, quality firearm for under $500 dollars, especially because of police trade-in programs through Glock or Sig-Sauer.  Yes, more money may mean more quality, but it doesn’t automatically translate into “cheaper guns are less reliable/good.”
  • “A hit anywhere on the body with (insert caliber here) will knock a man to the ground.” - Okay, simple physics at play here; Yes, people who get shot may fall to the ground. But if a hit from a bullet would knock a man down due to the force of it, the shooter would also find themselves on the ground due to equal & opposite reactions. People who get shot fall down because the hit was to the Central Nervous System and the person is dead. People do not fall down because the force of the bullet pushed them backwards and down.  Likewise, getting shot by a handgun and flying through a plate glass window won’t happen either.
  • “A .22 LR will not damage your hearing so you don’t need to wear hearing protection.” - I saw one of my friends shooting a .22 LR rifle without any hearing protection, and I asked him what he was doing.  He repeated the above statement to me.  Folks, no matter what, when shooting please please PLEASE wear hearing protection.  A .22 LR rifle will typically deliver 140 decibels when fired, which IS enough to damage your hearing.  You CANNOT regain your hearing. When it’s gone, it’s gone.  A simple way to picture it is that inside your ear, there are these very tiny hairs that are susceptible to vibration, which is then translated into sound by the brain.  When loud noise enters the ear, these hairs can become completely destroyed.  The more hairs you lose, the more hearing you lose.  These don’t grow back.  
  • “Small snub nosed double-action revolvers are the best choice for women and smaller statured people because they’re simple to use.” - This statement, while completely ignoring the fact that are an equal number of women who are accomplished shooters & some of the best shooters I’ve seen are women, is something I’ve heard many times.  This is hard for me to say, being a revolver fan, but the best defensive handgun for ANYONE regardless of stature and gender is the one that you can handle and shoot the most comfortably and effectively.  Small revolvers are really an experts weapon, and unless you have the time & ammunition to devote to training with the revolver, it is a difficult weapon to master.  Revolvers tend to have a higher bore axis than some of the modern semi-automatic handguns, which also contribute to their different and often more difficult handling characteristics.  Don’t listen to this tired old myth; try many different guns (preferably at a range that will let you rent several to try out) and buy the one that feels most comfortable and shootable to you.  Then go out and practice!

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