GNG 069 - Bro do you even carry?


Tonight we will be interviewing EJ Owens about his New Training Programs and his new Book.

God and Guns Podcast Episode 069 - Bro do you even carry? Intro: Welcome back to the God and Guns Podcast. I’m your host, Troy.  (Doug) And I’m your other host, Doug. We use this podcast to talk about God, guns, and the responsible Christian gun owners interests. Tonight we will be interviewing EJ Owens about his New Training Programs and his new Book

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This Weeks God and Gun activities: Doug - Daily devotional, Church on Sunday morning. Picked up a new gun. Bersa 9mm Troy - Planning for youth Beach Camp, Teaching Sunday School, Little Rimfire shooting.

Comedy Corner:

Blond Joke:

Bubba and Junior were standing at the base of a flagpole, looking up.

A woman walked by and asked what they were doing. "We're supposed to find the height of the flagpole," said Bubba, "but we don't have a ladder." The woman took a wrench from her purse, loosened a few bolts, and laid the pole down. Then she took a tape measure from her pocket, took a measurement and announced, "Eighteen feet, six inches," and walked away.

Junior shook his head and laughed. "Ain't that just like a blonde! We ask for the height, and she gives us the length!"

Lawyer Joke;

A doctor vacationing on the Riviera met an old lawyer friend and asked him what he was doing there. The lawyer replied, "Remember that lousy real estate I bought? Well, it caught fire, so here I am with the fire insurance proceeds. What are you doing here?" The doctor replied, "Remember that lousy real estate I had in Mississippi? Well, the river overflowed, and here I am with the flood insurance proceeds." The lawyer looked puzzled. "Gee," he asked, "how did you start the flood?"

Listener Feedback

From: LUKE


Message Body:

Hello Fellas,

I've been listening to the older episodes once again because I really enjoy the way you explain those verses. It really helps me with my walk. I listened to the Happy New Year episode again tonight and I was curious how your new years resolutions were going. I was also wondering what your thoughts on fasting are as I have been considering starting one. Thanks for the great show. God Bless.

Wish List Additions AR platform .458 socom rossi circuit judge in .410/45LC and I must admit after hearing Doug talk about his Winchester 1897 I did a google search on it and i would LOVE to get my hands on one of those in 12 gauge. I really like those.


Good evening Gentlemen,

My name is Peter, and I have been listening to your show for about the last 6 months.  I have previously contacted you through facebook, and mentioned how I had introduced your show to a couple of my fellow AWANA workers as well as our youth minister.

I am writing to you today to ask for your advice regarding a situation that has come up in my church.  Tonight we had a going away party for our youth leader and his wife.  They are moving away from the metro area to a small town in the northern part of the state, where Derek has taken a position with the local fire department as an EMT.  While talking to Derek about his plans, and who would be taking over his position, I was asked if I was interested in helping out.  I have been involved in the children's ministry at the church for the last 5 years, first helping with Vacation Bible School as an all around assistant, and then with AWANA as a listener with T&T, and then as an assistant and finally leader of rec time.

While my wife and I enjoy helping the children, we both have felt burnt out and were planning on taking the next year off from service.  Tonight's events make me feel like I am still being called to serve, but I feel that I am in no way qualified to serve in a position with such responsibility.

My Life has been a series of ups and downs for the last 8 years.  I served 12 years as a law enforcement officer, before that was taken away because of a trainee accusing me of trying to shoot him.  During the investigations and subsequent legal battle,(altogether nearly 4 years)  this individual made claims under oath that were untrue, and even changed his story on several occasions.  Also, witness testimony, while not completely refuting his statements, did not exactly back up my side of the story.  It was during this time that I accepted Christ as my savior, and asked for his guidance.  I eventually felt that the best option for me and my family was to stop fighting and accept a misdemeanor plea bargain and take probation.

Despite my past, I have been welcomed by my church, and entrusted with the care and guidance of the children.  While I have read the Bible, and participate in study groups, I am in no way prepared to lead.  What advice would you give a person in my position.  I feel it is right to help, but I don't want to hinder the growth of the ministry, or worse be the cause of its undoing because of my past or inexperience.

Seeking wisdom to spread His glory.

Your Brother in Christ,



Hello Troy,

My name is Tom Buckley and I live in Lexington. I started listening to your podcast a couple months ago and I really look forward to listening each week. I am in the process of going back and catching up on the older episodes now too.

I usually carry one of two guns, either my SIG P938 or my 3" Kimber Master Carry Series Ultra 1911 - which is my first laser equipped gun. Like most serious CCDW holders I am liking, then not liking, then looking always for different holsters - more so than actual guns!

I am a brother of yours in Christ, and as you would imagine I enjoy guns as well.

In fact I insure a number of gun related & outdoor sports businesses - I am a Property & Casualty Insurance agent

We have a house down at Lake Cumberland, and down there is where I shoot the most. I'm not a big hunter, but mostly shoot for fun and also am a CCDW license holder. I don't know how close you are to Russell Springs, but if you ever want to come by on a weekend day we also shoot at a couple different farms down there where we can set up a good amount of targets, and just have a little fun.

Just wanted to let you know how much I enjoy, as well as appreciate, what you guys do on the podcast!

Keep on sharing the word!




Troy and Doug,

I have contacted the show a couple of times over the past year or so, and I even won a hat from you guys (yep, that’s my picture on your instagram site). Today I am writing to get you opinion on a matter that involves God and, well not so much guns, but shooting. I am a photographer in Charleston, SC and I keep listen to several photography podcasts. I recent New Mexico court case has brought to light once again the debate of gay rights. Here is the link to the news article from the Christianity Today website:

To give just an overview, the photographer was sued for refusing to shoot a same sex wedding. I am fully aware of God's view on same sex couples so my question is; does that view extend to business transactions? Troy, I know you are in sales, would you refuse to sell to someone that is married to someone of the same sex? And, if all sin is equal in the eyes of our Lord, and Jesus said “let he who is without sin cast the first stone” are we to condemn and alienate homosexuals for that?

I guess I should have prefaced this email with letting you know that my questions are not directed to create a debate on the matter. I bring it to you guys in hopes of finding the middle ground between the rights of the photographer and the rights of the couple. I reckon that this is the cross roads that every country with freedoms have to face, the separation of church and state. I also am aware of what I would have done if I were the photographer. I guess to sum up my question, what is the biblical stance of being in that situation? Would it have been wrong in God's eyes if she had shot the wedding?

Thanks for the awesome podcast and everything you do. It is truly and inspiration.


Steven A. Campbell


Wish list (Steven A. Campbell)

  1.    The wife said I can't get anymore guns until I get a safe, so a huge gun safe.
  2.    I wish my wife would stop complaining when I get a new gun.
  3.    I wish my daughter really didn’t want that pink camo .22 rifle.
  4.    A sig P320.

Subject: IL CCW laws & church carry

Message Body:

Troy and Doug,

I couldn't wait for the Pistol Packing Preachers episode and thoroughly enjoyed listening to it.

One thing I wanted to mention about IL CCW laws is that places of worship are only considered private property, and as such, unless they post the official signage at the entrance (which looks like this, you are legally allowed to carry.

My church does not have a sign posted, but I am pretty sure that this is due to ignorance. That being said, I'm a bit torn on whether to talk to my pastor about CCW or not. If I proactively ask the pastor about the subject, it will most likely open up a can of worms. Maybe that is a discussion that has to happen in the future, but right now, ignorance is bliss. Do you guys think that people should notify their pastors that they are carrying in church?

If a pastor asked either of you to disarm yourself before coming to church, would you respect the pastor's wishes, move churches, or do 'concealed is concealed'? I guess this would also depend on how long you've been attending that particular church.

Thanks again for your show; I look forward to it every week.


Subject: God & Guns Activity Report

Hi Troy & Hi Doug,

Wanted to give a report on my latest God & Guns activity. My wife and I invited several young families with kids to join us for a weekend at a friend's deer camp. (Deer camp? Jeez this place is nicer than my house) My youngest daughter helped the kids learn & archery and to use the BB gun. I helped the adults learn to shoot using our faithful lever action .22 Henry. WE had some nice hikes and talks around the campfire. On Sunday morning My lovely bride & I lead a devotional/sharing time.

After we got back a girl in one family joined the National Archery in Schools Program Team at their school and another family went out and bought a Daisy for their their son & daughter.

We had a fine time together enjoying the outdoors & shooting sports but most importantly we were able to show God's love to some good folks.

Take care guys. Dwayne

Hey Troy and Doug,

Really enjoyed your last episode with Rev. Kenn Blanchard. I have listened to The Unnamed Church podcast of his for a little while now, it has been very helpful for me to learn more about the scriptures. Maybe some of the listeners of this show might want to check it out? Keep up the great work, shows like yours and the Unnamed church have been a true blessing to me and I thank God for that.

Ricky McMurdo. (Australia)

Weekly Bible Verse

Romans 6:1-23 (ESV)

What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?  By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?  Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?  We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life.    For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his.  We know that our old self was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin.  For one who has died has been set free from sin.  Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him.  We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion over him.  For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God.  So you also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus.    Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, to make you obey its passions.  Do not present your members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for righteousness.  For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace.    What then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means!  Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness?  But thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were committed,  and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of righteousness.  I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification.     For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.  But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death.  But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life.  For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

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NRA Armed Citizen Veteran kills armed robber, KPRC, Houston, Texas, 05/29/14

Posted on May 30, 2014

A 28-year-old veteran was having lunch at a Quiznos in Houston, Texas when he spotted two men mask themselves and then enter a GameStop. The veteran retrieved a handgun from his vehicle and went to confront the criminals as they exited the store. One of the robbers aimed a firearm at the veteran, prompting the armed citizen to fire. During an exchange of gunfire, one of the robbers was struck and killed, while the other fled the scene.

The deceased robber’s accomplice was captured by police a short time later. (KPRC, Houston, Texas, 05/29/14)

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