ARP 143 - Is There Room for the AK in an AR World


Welcome to Episode #143 of the AR15 Podcast. On this episode we’re talking about the AK-47 and some of its variants.We want to let you know that we have begun our giveaway for the Vortex Spitfire 3X Prism Scope.  We are asking you, our listeners and fans to nominate a Veteran to receive the Vortex Spitfire.  You can go to the link Click Here to Enter.  We will also have a link on our Facebook Page for you to use. We’ll be doing the drawing on Veteran’s Day.

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Main Topic:

Is There Room for the AK in an AR World?  More specifically is there room in your world for an AK?


    1. In 1946 Mikhail Kalashnikov lost a design competition to the SKS. Continued to modify the design with his focus on reliability. His modifications moved the AK-47 to the front of the competition and AK-47 was put into production.


    1. AK-47
    2. AKM
    3. AK-74
    4. AK-12
    5. Saiga

18 U.S.C. 922(r) Compliance

    1. AK imported in sporting configuration
    2. AK manufactured in U.S.
    3. AK kit sold for assembly


    1. Manufacture
    2. Ergonomics
    3. Recoil
    4. Accuracy
    5. Reliability


    1. Cost
    2. Bimetal
    3. Berdan
    4. Corrosive


    1. Rails
    1. Optics
    2. Silencer?
      1. Concentricity
      2. No Straight Lines

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Mitchell M.:  Hi, I was involved with shooting competitions including Camp Perry starting back in 1983. Those were the days of the M-1 and particularly the M1-A which I got distinguished with in 1986, #600 on that list.

The only AR shooter that I can remember at the earliest date was Randy Felpouch; spelling ?; who had a long barrel AR, 26” - 28” and was using 69 SMK's through 600 yards, this was late 1980's and 1990's.  David Tubbs nor myself got into the AR's , Carl Bernoski did and has gone through some interesting calibres to get the maximum performance from the platform. My limited use of the AR was in speed shooting at Knob Creek in the competition there where I had considerable success, but not with the 69's!  The problem with the 69 Sierra Match King on steel is they tend to disintegrate and not knock steel over especially if the steel has pockmarks from other bullet holes. That was the reason I went back to the M1-A in later years. 2 of my rifles are 223 and I's taken Red Deer and large numbers of rabbits here in NZ and ground hogs in the US. The one notable issue is lack of penetration of the 69's, from 50 to 250 yards they did not go through the ground hogs I shot instead they completely blew up in the hogs without exiting and were 100% kills on the spot. I found the Department of Defence letter stating that the SMK was no more frangible than the FMJ bullets in the M-118, 7.62 cartridge frankly laughable having taken whitetail with 190 SMK's in a 30-06.

Anyway after winning the NRA Long Range Championships 3 times and the Course rifle twice, I'm still shooting AR's here in NZ and they are now becoming a larger part of the gunsmithing business as time goes on. The days of the single shot target rifle are falling off quickly as is the art of prone iron sight shooting at long distance. IPSC which has 3 gun and multi gun events will play a part in the future development of advanced systems used to enhance the AR platforms. Additionally the New Zealand military recently adopted the M-110 system and the M-4 made by Lewis Machine as their official military firearms to replace the Steyr Augs that had been causing problems in the sand box.

Cheers from NZ